Homicide Report > Carl Washington, 44 [Updated]

Carl Washington, 44 [Updated]

Died July 18, 2010

Carl Washington, a 44-year-old black man, was shot and killed Sunday, July 18, in the 19600 block of Harlan Avenue in Carson, according to Los Angeles County coroner's records.

The shooting occurred about 4:00 a.m. in front of Washington's home, said sheriff's homicide Detective Robert Kenney, who is handling the investigation.

Witnesses reported seeing suspects flee the scene, heading north on Harlan in a white sport-utility vehicle, he said.

[For the record: An earlier version of this post said the suspects were last seen going south on Harlan.]

Washington was taken to a hospital, where he died. Authorities said the incident appeared to be gang-related.

Anyone with information about the shooting is asked to contact Det. Kenney or Joe Espino at (323) 890-5500.

[For the record: An earlier version of this post incorrectly placed the scene of the shooting on Harland Avenue in Beverly Hills.]

— Corina Knoll and Sarah Ardalani

19619 W. Harlan Ave.
 
 

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Updated: Aug. 6, 2010 at 3:19 p.m.

 
 

90 reader comments about Carl Washington

he died in carson silly

— joe
July 19, 2010 at 1:16 p.m.

From a co-worker: Carl was a good guy. Seems like the good guys always get the short end. Should have happened to some idiot instead.

— Lee Hardisty
July 20, 2010 at 6:06 a.m.

Carl, didn't deserve this, my pray's go out to his Family, I known Carl over half of his life, a great person!

— TT
July 20, 2010 at 9:11 a.m.

A great guy who's life was cut short how sad. Thoughts and prayers to the friends and family. He will be missed here at work

— Steve Morrison
July 20, 2010 at 9:53 a.m.

Seem's like you are right~ Lee Hardisty~ If he was working he probably was just in the wrong place at the right time. Does he have children??? God bless his family and friends.

— Lady Joker
July 20, 2010 at 10:09 a.m.

Is this the same Carl Washington that works at the County of Los angeles probation Department? in Downey? I really do hope its not him he is a nice guy......some one please let me know on here if that is him. He stays a block away from me in paramount...I havent seen him for awhile..

— Donna
July 20, 2010 at 12:31 p.m.

No he worked at AT&T as a lineman

— Steve morrison
July 20, 2010 at 1:19 p.m.

Wonder which Carl Washington the councilman from the 90's?

— Jim Rush
July 20, 2010 at 1:24 p.m.

This was in East Coast Crip 190 area. Suspects was Mexicans according to the Daily Breeze. Sad, sad, sad. Cats in their 40s and still trying to live that young mans life. *Shaking my head*

— Carson Resident
July 20, 2010 at 4:56 p.m.

Carl was a great guy. Those who knew him can attest to this. He was dating a sweet person who he really cared for. She was with him we he was killed and he saved her life. That's how much he cared. He did not deserve this. While I know is family and friends are hurting, so is she and her family. Only God knows when we will go. I pray for all who's lives he touched. Although his girlfriend was not "family", he loved her no matter what anyone says. May he rest in perfect peace. We loved him, but God loved him more....Let's pray they find the horrible people who did this.

— Kitty Wells
July 20, 2010 at 5:10 p.m.

Carl was a very special person. I've known Carl for a long time. He was my work partner, lamaze coach and a good friend. The tears won't stop flowing. I'm still in disbelief. Why...who would do something like this!!?? Carl worked hard all his life and never bothered anyone.He was SO kind. We just recently went to New Orleans. I just want to throw up! I have soo many great memories and just as many pictures. Carl, I will NEVER forget you! I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER. THANKS FOR BEING A GOOD FRIEND...REST IN PEACE

— Sharon
July 20, 2010 at 6:29 p.m.

Carl was loved by many. A nice guy with a great spirit. I met him through his girlfriend Daphne. He really cared about her. I hope the family understands its not about us..its about him. If he loved and embraced her, they should too. She survived, that was God's plan. Anger is part of grieving. She is hurting too. He is in heaven now and nothing we say or do can bring him back. There are some bad guys out there that I hope and pray will be caught, soon. Prayers to all.

— Karen Jones
July 20, 2010 at 6:54 p.m.

My prayers are with his family and friends.

— Honorable Rev. Carl Washington
July 20, 2010 at 10:04 p.m.

Carl was a nice young man. I double dated with him and Daphne. He seemed to really be falling for her, at least he told me that. I'm happy someone was in his life that he cared for and had good times with. Great memories of a good person. I know he was a private person and didn't share a lot of his personal business, but he was a rare dude. I will miss him.....There are some really horrible uncaring people in this world and even though he was not one of them he was a victim of their cruel behavior. We need to come together people. Life is so short. These people were looking for trouble and they will get caught. God will not let an angel fall without someone paying a price. My thoughts and prayers to his family, to Daphne, and to all his many friends. May God Rest his Soul.

— R.M.
July 21, 2010 at 5:20 a.m.

All I know is that Carl and Daphne brought food and went to the Downtown Womens Shelter and prepared it with Daphne's friends. They donated clothes and food as well. They helped people. He was excited about her and the things they did. I know they took lots of trips and did lots of things together. I know he was a nice person who did not deserve this. He was a MAN. He was always respectful and had a big heart. He nor she was not into any gang life. They both worked everyday! She has a MBA, works in a corprate office and ran for Compton's School Board AND was an ex-LAPD officer. She is no slouch! He worked for AT&T for 10 years and was just celebrating his 10th anniversary there. Sad times now. Hurt hearts now...We never want to see our loved ones pass away in such a violent way. Especially those that meant and did well. I saw him with Daphne and she was his girl and he was her love. Two good people. I hope and pray justice is served. I hope and pray hearts are healed. I hope and pray lives are restored. Its devastating, hurtful and sad. Carl is gone too soon. Peace and Blessings to all.

— Z. Hardison
July 21, 2010 at 5:50 a.m.

to the carson resident try and find some information before you speak if not you are presumed the idiot you really are.the respectful thing for you is to take your quote down because it is a very hurtful coment to anyone that knew him

— brother
July 21, 2010 at 10:34 a.m.

Carson resident~ You could not have been paying attention to what you read about Carl Washington. There is no where in this article that HE was a gang banger- He was a 40 year old man who from all the other comments was a GOOD MAN, A WORKING MAN AND A MAN OF INTEGRITY AND A MAN IN-LOVE.So stop and think before you write something as UN-INFORMED AS THAT LAST PART OF YOUR COMMENT. Peace and God's blessings to the family and good friends of Carl. To his co-workers and people he may have met and left a imprint on your life , keep him in your memory, keep his good spiritedness alive by doing some good deed for another in his memory. Most of all I wish his Mother, Brother, Sister and Father everlasting peace from this painful event in your lives.

— Lady Joker
July 21, 2010 at 11:39 a.m.

No need to call anyone names. I am pointing out what the paper stated. Stated it was "gang-related." I know that does not mean the victim was/is but maybe the suspects were? In any case, I have my opinions on what this 44yr old man was doing out and about at 4AM. Why was he out at that time? This forum/blog is for people to ask questions and make comments. My comments were not disrespectful nor were they intended to hurt your loved one. From the sound of things, seems like this cat was on the up and up. Working, living a good life yet I have to wonder why he was out at 4am? Its a young mans world and as a lifelong Carson resident the only people out at this time is drug users, dealers, and gang-bangers. I live in Victoria Park and I know what has gone down the last 20 or so yrs between the African American gang ECC 190 and the various local Hispanic gangs in Carson. The area where Carl was killed is home to ECC190. Do you see how I am deducing where I am coming from? I am going to post what the Daily Breeze posted so you can see where I got my info. Please enlighten us and let us know what happened. I am interested.

"A 44-year-old man was fatally shot during an apparent gang-related shooting attack Sunday in Carson, a sheriff's deputy said.

"The victim was identified as Carl Washington, a resident of Carson," said Betsy Magdaleno, an investigator with the Los Angeles County Department of Coroner.

The shooting occurred about 4:05 a.m. in the 19600 block of Harlan Avenue and involved at least four Hispanic suspects and the victim was a black male, said Deputy Benjamin Grubb.

Washington was pronounced dead at an area hospital, said Deputy Lillian Peck.

The suspects fled the scene in a white sport utility vehicle southbound on Harlan Avenue, Grubb said. Deputies asked anyone with information on this fatal shooting to call the Sheriff's Homicide Bureau at 323-890-5500. All tips can be made anonymously"

http://www.dailybreeze.com/crimeandcourts/ci_15547634

— Carson Resident
July 21, 2010 at 3:44 p.m.

its sad how these cold blooded basturds can take a life they will suffer for what they did may god bless the family of carl and his girl friend and her family red man

— red man
July 21, 2010 at 4:08 p.m.

Lots of people start their workday that early.

Probably a case of mistaken identity as so often happens with these sociopathic gangsters.

— syscom3
July 21, 2010 at 4:58 p.m.

Carl was one of my best friends! His transition to GOD in our eyes was UNTIMELY to say the least. I pray that God place CONVICTION on the hearts of those involved in the murder and God's Will be done. Freedom of speech is our right but please post in good taste only what is necessary and in honor of him. We must remember he was a man of Integrity and lived a life of Service to anyone who asked. He had to learn to spell the word NO because he rarely could say it. He was loved by MANY and made everyone feel special with the time and hours he would put in talking and sharing about life situations and solutions. His smile, giggle and hospitality was genuine and he truly wanted everyone to be COMFORTABLE. Let us all come together in his memory the way he would bring us together when he was amongst us. Smiles, BBQ's, Concerts, Movies, Traveling, Laughs, Music and UNITY.

Rest In Peace Carl Washington. Your memory and GOOD ENERGY will live on forever in my and my kids lives.

WE Love and Miss you!

ONE LOVE!

BFF

Ms. Juan, Miles and India

— Ms. Juan
July 21, 2010 at 5:35 p.m.

Our prayers and deepest sympathy are with Carl's family and friends.
May his soul rest in peace with the Lord.

— RODEL
July 21, 2010 at 9:10 p.m.

I met Carl recently and I just want to say he was a nice man. He was with a nice lady that clearly made him smile. He was a good brother and he was totally taken by this girl. I just want to remember his kind spirit. There is nothing negative about him. People are gonna say what they want and we should not assume anything because we were not there. He nor she was into a gang. These things happen everyday and it seems it was just wrong place, wrong time. It's so easy to put out negative stories and people latch on to them without even knowing the truth. Don't taint his memory like that. He deserved better.

His family, girlfriend, and friends have my deepest sympathy. God Bless.

— Casey Coleman
July 22, 2010 at 6:31 a.m.

This gentleman worked as a lineman for AT&T. They are sometimes on call to work if some problem comes up. He most likely was either on his way to or coming from work. Not all black men that get killed are in a gang. My condolences to his family and friends.

— anon
July 22, 2010 at 10:17 a.m.

carl was my homie, yea he was one of my og's from the set (ecc190) but he wasnt wit that no mo. he was trying to change his life around and he really loved his new gal in his life. too bad he had to go at the hands of them surrats yall know the bidness it is what it is the messicants is the enimego around here. "ecc in peace" "big shiphead" you was the homie!

— big monk ecc190
July 22, 2010 at 10:38 a.m.

To Carson Resident....We are very hurt by what has happened. I just have one question...have you ever walked someone to their car? Being the gentleman that he was, that is exactly what he was doing at that time. He was not a lifelong resident of Carson, as you are, so I don't think he would have thought anything to walk someone from his house. Although, you may think your comment was not intended to be hurtful...it was. I can attest to the fact that he was not a drug user, dealer, or gang member, as I have known him my entire life, as he is my uncle. I hope this comment helps to enlighten you.

— Niece
July 22, 2010 at 11:27 a.m.

— big monk ecc190 ...... "too bad he had to go at the hands of them surrats yall know the bidness it is what it is the messicants is the enimego around here. "ecc in peace" "big shiphead" you was the homie!"

Someone translate that into plain english. I just can't believe the communication skills of some of these people. Indicative a failed educational system.

— syscom3
July 22, 2010 at 2:06 p.m.

Carl Washington was a good, hard working, loving man. He loved his family, friends and especially his best friend Tracy. I am one of those people who usually stays in the background, but on this, I just have to speak out. As the previous reader said lots of people start their work days at 4:00am in the morning or around that time including my husband and aunt. Does that make them a bad people? Maybe when Carl purchased his home the neighborhood wasn't like it is now. Have you taken a look at the economy now? Who can sell their home now, especially in this type of neighborhood. Not all people who live in that area or the surrounding area are involved in gangs or drugs. You do have upstanding citizens left in this world. Thank you God! This has hit his family and friends all pretty hard. Eventhough you are commenting on what you are reading from the Daily Breeze, please don't judge a book by its cover.
Rest in Peace Carl! We love you & never will forget you.

— Ragina McDonald
July 22, 2010 at 2:07 p.m.

Big Monk, THANK YOU. There is it there folks. This cat from the ECC190 set came on here and CONFIRMED Carl Washington was a ex-banger. So Mr. Carl Washington was known as "Big Shiphead" from East Coast Block Crip 190...

AT&T lineman seemingly doing right but his past caught up with him. So he wasnt an innocent victim, but an ex-banger that was caught "slippin". *Back to shaking my head*

I have always said there is the family side of the story, the "other" side of the story and the TRUTH. Seems we have a little mixture of both here.

Doesnt mean he deserved to die but trying to change your life does not eliminate you from the violence. Once again, THANK YOU Monk. Anyone care to apologize to me now?

— Carson Resident
July 22, 2010 at 2:15 p.m.

Carl was never in a gang or from any set. The only OG he was, was an ORIGINAL GENTLEMAN! Please don't disrespect his memory in that way at all. PLEASE. Let's only post nothing but positive, as he was a positive person. He has a family that loves him and they don't deserve, especially at this time, to hear any negative commentary. People have feelings so please respect that. The main focus should be on capturing these inhumane people that prey on innocent people and helping his family to heal from this awful event. Everyone that knew him is hurting, don't spread awful lies and ignorance around like that. Please be respectful.....

— MJB
July 22, 2010 at 2:40 p.m.

It's official, Carson Resident has nothing better to do but hate. GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!

— Ragina McDonald
July 22, 2010 at 2:41 p.m.

Carson resident - I understand you trying to figure it all out and maybe link this untimely death to something, however in your quest to be right it is absolutely untimely. Please allow this family to grieve the lost of their love one and remember him for who he is to them. This family needs to be lifted up and encouraged during this time, keep whatever thoughts, assumptions you are having to yourself, Please!!!

— Cousin to GF
July 22, 2010 at 2:57 p.m.

to all friends and family of carl do not worry yourself with carson resident anymore because i truly suspect he is BIG MONK also syscom3 So if you new Carl please dont give him any fodder.and let god deal with his restless heart. Lets stop one second and think if this happened the way detectives said it happened then all residents of carson should realize that Carson has a problem with HATE CRIMES and that should terrify every carson resident unless theses are things youe promote CARSON RESIDENT?

— brother
July 22, 2010 at 3:06 p.m.

I worked with carl b4 he went up north and before he became a lineman .This was a few years back. At that time he was a service tech in downtown los angeles. Due to Carl's low seniority he was given the option of quiting or taking a job in northern ca. Carl chose the latter.To me this shows a great work ethic it would have been easy to just quit and collect unemployment!The carl I knew was a great guy and a hard worker .To the CARSON RESIDENT: Have you ever lost a loved one??? What purpose do you think your comments serve??? PLEASE do not ask fo an apology...It is you who should appologize to his friends and family... May he rest in peace...

— co worker
July 22, 2010 at 3:07 p.m.

I dont know who Big Shiphead was but we are not talking about the same person. The Carl Washington that lost his life Sunday morning wasn't from 190 ECC. And to the Carson Resident no one will apologize to you now, because like it has been said before he wasn't into that bull, and Big Monk must be speaking about someone else.

— King
July 22, 2010 at 3:15 p.m.

syscom, I doubt its his lack of education. Actually Carson CA is the ONLY city in America where the African American median income is higher than whites. A lot of good, well to due black folks live here. The area where monks gang is from is actually quite nice. He chooses to be ignorant, not b/c of educational opportunities or money. Choice, his choice...

Monks term "surrats" is a derogatory term for surenos or so-cal mexican gang members. He is insinuating they are responsible and are the enemies towards his gang. As for the "messicants" term; that is a derogatory towards Mexicans. "Bidness" is slang term for business. I am somewhat shocked that the HR allowed his comments as "messicants" is an insult to the mexican community. I wonder if I used the "n" word in describing African Americans would they allow that? Maybe I should and see...on second thoughts, nah...*rolling eyes at the hr report*

— Carson Resident
July 22, 2010 at 3:16 p.m.

why yall jumpin down dis mans throat? all dude wuz sayin it wuz gang related? den ol boy frm da 1-9-0 blocc came thru and confirmed what man wuz sayin? howz he hatin? c-arson resident its tuff cuz peoples fam-bam dont wanna believe when they loved one is murked. dats why erybody jumpy. cuz frm 1-9-0 say dats his big homie. maybe yall known ol man as a worker but cuz known him as da big homie. evry coin got 2 sides rite???

— D.A.B
July 22, 2010 at 4:50 p.m.

First of all, I extend my sincerest condolences to this man and his family. I can tell by all of the comments he was loved by many and probably just got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Attorney General Jerry Brown released a report recently that shows that out of all “hate crimes” in California, 60% of the victims are black. The really sad part of that percent is that we only make up 7% of CA’s population.
http://ag.ca.gov/cjsc/publications/hatecrimes/pub.php.

— Real Talk
July 22, 2010 at 6:43 p.m.

howz dis a hate crime? aint no mention of dis anywhere. ole dude wuz murked. dude wuz a ex-banger livin in da 1-9-0 hood. wrong place wrong tyme maybe but didnt read where da mexicans yelled hate at dude? peeps need 2 stop jumpin 2 conclusions. too many peeps be playin dat race card. race baiting n stuff. jesse jackson al sharpton type peeps.

— D.A.B
July 22, 2010 at 8 p.m.

Carl was a beautiful person, inside and out. Hard working, sweet, caring and thoughtful. May you rest in peace sweetheart.

— Shontelle
July 22, 2010 at 8:54 p.m.

Hey Real Talk. Their is a soulution to this ugly statistic: STOP KILLING EACH OTHER!

— PACO
July 22, 2010 at 9:01 p.m.

Whoa, all I am going to say is making an allegation of a hate crime is a very serious matter. As a Carson resident I know we have a very eclectic mix of African Americans, Mexicans, Pacific Islanders, and Caucasians. In all my 30 plus yrs living here, I have yet to hear of vicious hate crimes like this. Again, there are 3 sides to every story. The family and friends side, "Monks" and "Big Shipheads" sides, and the truth. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. Sad to see people go for the race card and hate claims when there is no basis for it.

— Carson Resident
July 22, 2010 at 9:16 p.m.

Rap stars who have everything going for them can't leave thug life behind. Think Biggy and Tupac. Do you think 'joe average" is going to be able? i am a Carson resident for 10 yrs..about 5 blks from the murder.
.This is/has been a lovely area, lots of "pride of ownership", interest in your neighbors. We are losing our neighborhood, the gap between the "haves' and the "have nots" is getting bigger, and until we address these issues it will only get worse.
i don't presume to know what Mr washington was about. I only offer the comment that people are VERY complex. Nothing surpises me, and do we really know anyone? We are all a different person to everyone who knows us,the elephant and the blind men fable.
Just know, we are in this gang territory, and why would 4 Mexican bangers be all the way in our middle class neighborhood in the middle of the night..randomly...just saying.
This does not negate the terrible pain to his family and loved ones. every soul on earth is someones baby.

— IloveCarsom
July 23, 2010 at 12:15 a.m.

D.A.B Stands for Del Amo Blocc huh? U must be a banger to Mr. D.A.B

So you should be careful Yourself.

— ...
July 23, 2010 at 7:23 a.m.

Real Talk-

I'll try this again, since for whatever reason the LA Times decided to not post my first comment.

What does this have to do with a hate crime? If you think it is, then please provide proof, otherwise it's clear you're using this tragedy as a vehicle for your agenda.

As for the "statistics" you cited, pardon me if I don't take them too seriously, as "hate crimes" are demonstrably reported very inconsistently. I'll give you an example: Over a four month period in Denver last year, over 30 attacks were coordinated and orchestrated by black men against whites downtown, specifically targeted because of the color of their skin. There was even a homicide. NONE of the perps were charged with a hate crime. Why do you think that is? If roving bands of white skinheads roamed the streets in search of blacks to beat and rob do you think they would be charged with hate crimes? Absolutely, and it would be the top story on every media outlet from coast to coast. As it stands now, I doubt many outside of Denver have heard of it. Google it, you'll find stories from everyone from the Denver Post to 9news, etc.

So again, pardon me if I have to laugh at these so-called "statistics".

— Chris
July 23, 2010 at 7:31 a.m.

Check this out, and I mean no disrespect to this mans family or loved ones by even posting a comment in a place ment to be an online memorial. I am from 190 and I have never heard of a big monk or a big shiphead and I am 35 year old so I think I would have heard of them before. Not to mention someone else just said that he just moved there so I dont know why someone would try to associate a person with a gang that wasnt. Maybe to discredit the gang with having lost a member I guess. As for the hate crime, let's do the math here, 4 ese's are riding around the neighborhood looking for Crips to kill but find a mature man walking his girlfriend to the car. Obviously they pull up and shout their gang and he either doesnt respond or tells them he doesnt bang and they kill him anyway. That is a hate crime. They killed him anyway because he was black in an enemy neighborhood (I guess, depends on where they were from) and he was an easy target. Unless there was some personal beef between the shooters and the victims there is no way that man said something aggressive back to them in that situation, risking having his girlfriend killed as well. Wake up yall, this is 2010 and things have changed.

— Common Sense
July 23, 2010 at 9:42 a.m.

yes u are rite. D.A.B do stand fo Del Amo Blocc. but i aint no banger. i live near da park and dats it. common sense, cuz i highly doubt you from da set. aint no 1-9-0 cuz fixn to be callin mexicans "eses" if u wuz frm da set, u wud have different name like "big monk" calls dem. and u comin on here tryin to explain why possible motives for da mexicans to murk ole dude. gimme me a break cuz. point is ole dude wuz out in 1-9-0 hood, rival enemiez came thru and murked him. cuz, hate crimez got guidelines and protocol. it gots to meet certain standards to be hate crime. i got good mexican potnas and i even go wit a mexican girl. i live here by del amo park and mexicans play soccer at da park and never give no problems. like cuz say, carson be nice homie. bbq jointz, soul food, mexican food, and asian food. quit that fake talk

— D.A.B
July 23, 2010 at 11:42 a.m.

When you lose someone you love, you hurt. My friend and her family are hurting....badly, as is his family. We have prayed together for both families. We are all only here for a season. Only God can decide our time on this earth, as we all are just passing through. Time will heal all wounds, but as we all go through this time, let us remember the person's life we must celebrate. Carl, we know, was a good person. I will only remember the fun times I personally watched him share with Daphne. I will remember the smiles and the fun we/they had. Life is a gift. Treasure it. We never want to see our loved ones leave us especially in such a tragic way. He didn't deserve this, we all feel this way. We must all be encouraged, lean on the Lord, trust and beleive Him. Those who did this will see, what goes around comes around. Vengence is mine said the Lord. We need not worry. God will handle this.
So I say to my friend Daphne, lean not to your own understanding, God will see you through. To Carl's family, although we have never met, Carl is at the right hand of God watching us, telling us to be strong. Love one another as God loves us. We are all connected by this.
Be strong, pray, and trust in a Mighty God. He will never leave you nor forsake you!

Peace and Love

— Caring Friend
July 23, 2010 at 1:17 p.m.

A gang conflict between a Mexican gang and a black gang starts. Usually starting with tit for tat shootings in eachother's hoods. The second an innocent victim is hit (a mexican or black that doesn't bang) it escalates into a racial conflict. Just look at the gang war in the Oakwood neighborhood of Venice in 94'. A personal dispute escalated into a gang dispute that quickly escalated into a racial conflict. In 10 months 17 people were killed and 50 injured, mostly innocent victims who were killed because of there color. Nothing's changed, and you can't rule out that this man was killed because of his race. R.I.P. Carl Washington

— Paul 619
July 23, 2010 at 2:04 p.m.

By definition –
Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, class, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.[1]
"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by hatred of one or more of the listed conditions. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[2]
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I know for a fact that some Latino gangs and Black gangs have real beef and resort to killing each other over it. I could name several specific gangs but I don’t want to glorify them nor give them ammunition for another senseless act. If you do further research, you will find this out. The facts are facts.

I will pass no judgment on Mr. Washington because I don’t know him or his background but whether you believe it or not some people kill other people simply because of race. If he posed no immediate threat to these perpetrators, what other motive would they have?

Here are a few examples of what are considered hate crimes and I put Mr. Washington’s murder in this category based on the article –

http://cbs2.com/local/girl.racially.motivated.2.526064.html
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=6607546
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/mar/04/local/me-shot4

— Real Talk
July 23, 2010 at 4:04 p.m.

Real Talk-

When someone murders someone else, there's "hate"involved. I don't need some BS government statistics to tell me that. My contention, and you have yet to prove me otherwise, is that classification of so-called "hate crimes" is BS and only applies to certain groups.

— Chris
July 23, 2010 at 11:49 p.m.

Chris, I don't need to prove anything to you. You are probably in the group that has suffered the least amount of discrimination/hate/oppression then any other group and don’t know what it’s like to walk in others shoes.

— Real Talk
July 24, 2010 at 10:35 a.m.

I lived over there my whole life & I have never heard of a "BIG MONK" from 190.....Thats a fraudulent statement trying to confuse you all.

— Del Amo Resident
July 24, 2010 at 11:11 a.m.

I like to qualify all homicides and AWW's as hate crimes.

You have to hate someone in order to want to inflict harm on them.

But the PC folks think otherwise. Only a minority can be the subject of a hate crime.

— syscom3
July 24, 2010 at 11:54 a.m.

To Paul619:
I was living in C.C. in '94 during that deadly flare-up btween Oakwood VSC and CCBoyz and proxies with innocent kids shot in the back riding a bike on the sidewalk,etc. I have always been interested to learn as much as one can find about the details, history, dynamics of what happened. You seem to be in the know.
If you can point me in the direction of any good references-you will have my thankful appreciation.

— student310
July 24, 2010 at 5:30 p.m.

D.A.B., you say you're not a gang member, but come on this site using language that indicates otherwise. Are you a wanna be? Seems to be the case. And please, use words people can understand. Can we as a people, regardless of race, stop writing everything like a text message. Proper english and grammer would be nice.

— L.A. Story
July 25, 2010 at 11:54 p.m.

L.A. Story - Well for starters, the word English should be capitalized, and the word grammar is not spelled correctly! :P

— Meck
July 26, 2010 at 7:29 a.m.

Carl, Carl, Carl. It's taking a lot out of me to do this, but I must honor you. You were a great guy and I respected you to the utmost. I'm gonna miss you and the great advice you gave me. I'm praying for Daphne too. I know you would want me to. I know the bond you were building with her. It's not about us, it's about YOU. It matters not what people say, as we all can see there are some evil hateful people in this world. Just know you were loved by many and will be missed. We had you here on earth, but God has you now. Rest my brother, for we know you are safe. Watch over all your loved ones. Encourage us to do God's will. Be our guardian angel. Everthing in this life happens for a reason, although we may not know it now. You were a gem and now you shine bright in heaven. Everything is gonna be alright. May God Bless your soul and may the spirit of the Lord give you total rest.
Peace be unto you...

— Lil Sis :)
July 26, 2010 at 8:12 a.m.

— L.A. Story, what makes you think they're writing things like a text message? Many of them have such terrible communication skills, this is how they write.

And they also wonder why they cannot get a job.

— syscom3
July 26, 2010 at 9:02 a.m.

This makes absolutely no sense what so ever, the ignorance is beyond me and to the people who don't have the decency to leave there irrelevant comments to themselves YOU should be ashamed in yourselves. show some respect for the family, for this is a time where they need words of encouragement and as much support they can receive this is not a BLOG FOR GANG/RACIAL CONTROVERSY, and obviously half of u cant read it specifically states "share a memory or thought about CARL WASHINGTON, not Carl and mention Daphne and speak about how he was so in love with this woman yet the same woman who has given countless stories about what occurred the night he "GRADUATED TO HEAVEN" shes just lucky he couldn't tell what really happened because the CARL I know would have told the "REAL" story and would have given every little detail down to the "T". on another note I would like to say to the family he was truely an angel on earth and we were blessed to be apart of his quest here on earth may his soul REST-IN-PEACE.....

— FRIEND
July 26, 2010 at 8:59 p.m.

@ Friend - I have heard a very different story from what has been reported and being posted by others here. A story that has nothing to do with race or gangs but rather infidelity. Hope that isnt true especially leaving police false information that could spark other killings and leave more people dead.

— neighborhood rumor
July 26, 2010 at 10 p.m.

— FRIEND ...... this is a blog about homicides and there isn't anything pretty about it. Do to the ever stifling hand of political correctness in the mass media, this is the only place where an honest discussion about this cruel subject can be made.

Seems like the deceased was an all right type of individual. He was hunted down and murdered that night by a bunch of rabid predators.

This is the reason society should demand gang sweeps to be made on a frequent basis, and lock these gangsters up for years or decades till they are to old to harm people.

Proactive intervention might hurt the feelings of a very small people, but will make society far safer in the long run.

No more excuses!

— syscom3
July 26, 2010 at 11:47 p.m.

Father Jesus in Heaven.Please look over the family and friends of Mr.Carl Washington.Give them strength to get throught these trying times.Father all things are possible when they are left in your hands.This I pray Oh Heavenly Father .And as for those who are making false claims against this mans name dear father,forgive them their ignorance.Amen

— Just Sayin
July 27, 2010 at 3:46 a.m.

when tha person who called D.A.B. a wanna be...he got quiet as a mouse...cuzz thats what he is....

— Foclipz
July 27, 2010 at 5:15 a.m.

Friend -
The very thing you are saying people should not talk about, you are doing. On top of that you are putting another spin on it. Talking about telling different stories. Why taint the memory you supposedly care so much about? Why would you even say that? That vibe you are giving is not very freind-like. Sounds like you have a little hate/jealously going on. If you want to honor his memory then do so. Don't tell others to keep their negative comments to themselves and then you bring out hurtful/negative words. It's so unnecessary. If you care about the family, why fuel a fire? And add on to their pain. Where are your encouraging words you speak about? Unless you know something you are not telling. And if you do, YOU, should be going to the police because you are such a friend.
It's so easy to spew uneducated, uninformed statements. You start off with your anger, then you have pseudo comforting words for the family. Sounds a little bi-polar to me. Enough said. You don't need to respond to prove an ignorant point. Let someone that has nice things to say have your space. You, friend, are wasting it!!

— Robert L.
July 27, 2010 at 9:07 a.m.

Let's celebrate Carl's life! Not place blame. I find it VERY hard to believe that anyone would put themselves in danger and risk being shot and for what? What did she have to gain? Suspicious would be if she left the scene or didn't cooperate with the police. Suspicious would be if she was inside the house and never called 911. Why can't it be what it was; a random act of violence? Who cares if he loved her, liked her, or was just with her? Obviously he felt something, whether you like it, love it or accept it.
In this situation would Carl really be able to tell the story to a "T"? Could you?
I hope you are never put in such an unpleasant, life altering experience. I hope in your lifetime you never are accused or talked about with disdain. But I do hope in your lifetime your heart isn't so hard. That you accept what you can never change and understand that God has a master plan and He doesn't have to share it with you.
Be peaceful, loving, and open minded. The devil is busy....don't let him keep using you.
God is Love. I love you and you can't do a thing about it!
CELEBRATE CARL'S LIFE...Be thankful you were fortunate enough to know him. Accentuate the positive, let go of the negative, ugliness it will only make you bitter not better.

Peace and Love

— Sister in Christ
July 27, 2010 at 10:48 a.m.

@Neigborhood Rumor - That is just a rumor and I hope it stops here. There was no infidelity on either end. Neither person was married OR involved with anyone else. He was my buddy and not that type of man. That is the furthest thing from the truth.
Please, please, please don't that rumor mill keep going. He was a good brother and would never put himself in that type of situation. Be easy, because that is not gonna fly. Why do we have to make things something they are not?

— my friend
July 27, 2010 at 12:37 p.m.

To all the friends and family of Carl, I BEG of you to stop posting, stop reading and let it be! These people will drive you crazy going back and forth. All who knew him, knew the type of man he was. Isn't that all that matters? Can't you see they are baiting you? Don't give these people the satisfaction. Clearly they have nothing better to do. Misery loves company. Watch the company you are keeping. Words are just words and they mean nothing when its all said and done. People can be mean and will always have something to say, regardless. Take the high road and be the bigger person. Let the man rest. If you truly cared, you would.

— Peace Be Still
July 27, 2010 at 1:02 p.m.

Student 310: If you are interested in learning more about the Venice conflict in 94' check out the book The Truce: Lessons from a LA gang war. This book is an extremely thorough account of the social, racial, and fundamental differences and misunderstandings that fueled the conflict in Venice. Very insightful.

— Paul 619
July 27, 2010 at 1:37 p.m.

Carl, I can hear you giggling from heaven, some of these posting are funny and so far from the truth of the person I knew, god bless your family and freinds who really knew you.

— TT
July 27, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.

Carl,My friend of 16 years was always there when i needed a shoulder to lean on he was loving,trustworthy and a kind hearted person.There was nothing in this world he wouldnt do for my family he will truly be missed and forever loved
Love
Donna and Family

— Donna Lewis And Family
July 27, 2010 at 8:57 p.m.

Prayers will continue to go up for the LOST souls on earth that have DEEP and lonely lives and You to can be saved. IN JESUS NAME..
The beauty of this is that the Family through GOD.. are UNIFIED and honoring this Wonderful man and his Legacy by preparing a fabulous Homegoing Service and final resting place. The even bigger PRAISE REPORT here is that he is in a BETTER place with much nicer ENERGY and spirits. As ONE of his BEST Friends, I know he would be pleased with the UNITY and peace his family and friends are exuding during this time. See you on the other side My Dear CARL! ONE LOVE..
Ms. Juan

— Ms. Juan
July 28, 2010 at 9:49 a.m.

You clown ass people are debating the man affiliation, this brother is dead never to be his love one again!
Dead is for real,the people on the site are act like a bunch of that SPECIAL time of the month females, show some damn respect, as you would want others to show your relatives. When you or one of your relatives make this list. There are a lot of people out here right now with shakey past does make them bad, or were they doing what they had to do to survive?
I had to get me some homeboys, when i was growing up being the only kid. I got tired of getting my tail kicked trying to be neutral and the good kick. your either a sheep or a wolf!
Only God knew this man heart, rest in peace black man.. And the brother over on the Eastside Be on your P's and Q's!!!
One love

— BigRo619
July 28, 2010 at 9:17 p.m.

BigRo619,
I always respect what you have to say when you post comments. I can tell from what you say that you came from the struggle, which gives you a better understanding of the social dynamics that lead to these situations. One Love.

— Paul 619
July 29, 2010 at 11:49 a.m.

wonderfully created.

— T
July 29, 2010 at 3:52 p.m.

Carl was like a tree. You can always tell the type of tree it is, by the fruit that it bares, wither it is good or bad. Close family and true friends watched Carl grew into a beautiful tree.We all had the opportunity
to enjoy his plenteous fruit. There is no need to argue, debate, refute or defend. We all have had pleasure in his memorable and delicious fruit, in those times we needed to pick. So I say to us all rejoice in the memory of his fruit. And to those who do not truly know him you have missed out on something wonderfully great.... Sleep well Carl until I see you again, you will always be in my heart.
Love always TRhosia

— What kind of fruit does your tree bare?
July 29, 2010 at 5:10 p.m.

Carl was a kind loving man.....Carl was not married or in a committed relationship and I know that first hand, he was open to befriend whoever he chose. I spent a lot of time with him and no one in this world will ever know all the special moments we shared but me and him. May his soul rest in peace..

— M
July 29, 2010 at 6:24 p.m.

— Paul 619 ..... "you came from the struggle"

Just what exactly is this struggle?

— syscom3
July 29, 2010 at 6:36 p.m.

@-M "Carl was a kind loving man.....Carl was not married or in a committed relationship and I know that first hand, he was open to befriend whoever he chose. I spent a lot of time with him and no one in this world will ever know all the special moments we shared but me and him. May his soul rest in peace.."

This is a very true statement!! I spent A LOT of time with Carl RECENTLY and I asked him when he was going to settle down. He just giggled and said he's just dating. Let's not use this forum for Daphne ONLY CARL WASHINGTON. To Carl's family: you had 44 wonderful years of memories (I know wayyyyy tooo short). He loved his family!!! You are in my prayers. Rest in Peace friend. You were a great friend.

— FYL
July 29, 2010 at 8:41 p.m.

Robert L~~ I agree with you "Friend" seems a little confused about what should be said and what should not be said, on the one hand "friend" wants us to leave relevant comments but don't mention his girlfriend Daphne who was there that night? I think "Friend" wanted to be more than a friend.

— Lady Joker
July 30, 2010 at 12:13 p.m.

First of all, they S@@@ people are saying about Carl Bryan Washington just freaking amazes me. I have known this man since I was 17 years old. And anyone that truly know him, knows Taco Bell Gardena.
He was far from some freaking Gang-Banger. And anyone who lives in Carson(especially on the DA side) knows that EVERY FREAKING SUMMER things happen over there to innocent people. Example: the young man who attended Curtiss middle school, and someone pulled up and asked him for directions, he could not hear what they were saying so approached the car just a little more and BANG a middle school student was killed for nothing. What about a shooting that happened on Helmick, not short of Harlan one summer night. What about the Carls next door neighbors house getting shot up.
CARL BRYAN WASHINGTON WAS NOT A GANG MEMBER. He was one of the last dudes in the this world that stood by HIS WORD BEING HIS WORD.
My prayers go out to his family. Such a good man, who had a short life. WE NEVER KNOW WHEN OUR TIME IS COMING.
Standing outside at anytime in Carson is no odd. That particular area is ALWAYS QUIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

— TacoBell
Aug. 1, 2010 at 5:31 p.m.

To the debaters: None of you need to reproduce!

Carl was a great, sincere, and pleasant guy.

Condolences to family and loved ones.

— The pretty 1
Aug. 2, 2010 at 8:07 p.m.

My friend was one of the last men left on this earth that knew how to treat a woman. He was kind, loving and thoughtful, we planted veggies and fruit in his backyard and I had teased him about growing cucumbers in the front...I was with him 4 nights before the incident, we had plans to enjoy each others company last weekend, he was so kind that he had offered his home to his God brother and his family while we went somewhere else and stayed for that weekend. I have spent a lot of time with Carl and I can say every moment was filled with joy and happiness and laughter...I miss him so much as im sure all of his family and friends do ....I will never forget the last thing he text to me, the saturday before his death and I will keep it locked in my ph as long as I can and in my heart forever......

— MW
Aug. 5, 2010 at 1:02 p.m.

I know people want to paint the picture of what they saw in Carl and what they thought they knew about him and that is fine, but beleive me when I say, he was not in a committed relationship, he was free to have friends and enjoy the company of his choice, no matter what it may have looked like ......just know that each and everyone that had the chance to know him and be in his life, knows that you couldnt have asked for a better person to know and love.....I have had the pleasure of spending time with this wonderful human being and every minute I spent was filled with laughter and happiness. He use to love to eat and didnt gain a lb but always wanted to workout....lol we went to eat almost every weekend and spent the remainder months of his life hanging out at his home....he was a privite person, kept his privite business to himself for the most part. A few days before his death, I went to see him over to a friends house while he fixed on a car....when he had to work late, he would text me and send me pictures of the area he was at......I use to tease him about kicking back while everyone else was working......so I am saying this to say, everyone has their memories of Carl, as for me, I had some of the best cause I was just recently with him before it happened and I can remember the smile he had when I pulled up that day......just a wonderful man and I will truely miss him but the memories will live on.

— close friend of his
Aug. 9, 2010 at 7:36 p.m.

I didn't know Mr. Carl Washington but to his family and friends I offer my condolences for your lost. I’m also writing to say that there are a lot of sick, evil and hateful morons who read the Homicide Report and feel compelled to spew their venom instead of feeling compassion for the loved ones of the deceased. Carson Resident and especially the crazed syscom3 are prime examples, they like to stereotype and blame. When I first read the report I assumed Mr. Washington may have been out to a club or a party and was arriving home at 4 am; as Americans are we not entitled to come and go as we like? Yet you parasites and the "ebonic writer" who thinks he is clever (trust me you aren't) assume ill intent and feel vindicated because one so-called friend said he used to be in a gang. You don’t even know if that is true yet you run with it. All you hate mongers should be aware that Karma is a funny thing and just as you are going along thinking all is swell your bitterness and evil ways catch up with you. This page was meant for family and friends to communicate their grief and vent their outrage over senseless killings. Yet you children of satan use it to express your hate. I wonder what people will write about you when you die? I’m guessing good riddance!

— Noelle Justice
Aug. 10, 2010 at 12:31 p.m.

— Noelle Justice, twice in this thread I have said that the deceased seemed to be a nice guy who got murdered by psychopaths.

Again, people accuse me of stuff without ever reading what I say.

— syscom3
Aug. 10, 2010 at 4:40 p.m.

Noelle-

Here is a quote from syscom regarding your friend:

"Seems like the deceased was an all right type of individual. He was hunted down and murdered that night by a bunch of rabid predators"

Care to explain your comments towards him, or did you actually read anything he wrote?

— chris
Aug. 10, 2010 at 10:42 p.m.

@noelle Justice~~~I agree with most of what you said-it seems like some people do enjoy the pain of others. Some of the comments are very hurtful and seem to be intentionally written to hurt the family. Although syscom3 does irratate me from time to time I must say he did not say anything negative here about Carl Washington. I believe you were just venting in general and not specifically to syscom3 on this homicide of Carl Washington,however, your other comments ring true. I believe I know what you mean by the dude writing in "ebonics" I feel you on that!!!

— Lady Joker
Aug. 11, 2010 at 2:37 p.m.

I worked with Carl @ AT&Tduring his stay in Chico, everything that he outwardly presented was a man of integrity and humility. It is with great sadness that I write my thoughts on a friend that I knew too short. I too am originally from So. Cal and am thankful for the change of environment. May the peace of our Lord Jesus be with both families, Know that joy does come in the morning, and that it is the comfort in Christ that we will see him again

— Deacon Dright
Aug. 13, 2010 at 3:57 p.m.

wow.....I have been reading all of the things people have said about Carl...some of them were nice and some not so nice......that man wouldnt hurt a flea, he was one of the most sweetest men I know......he treated me like a queen , and he knew how to treat a person period. Im so sorry to say he was not in a committed relationship and whoever this Daphne person was, was either someone in his pass or in his present like all of his other friends....I know this for a fact but he's gone now and we just need to hold his memories close to our hearts......I will never forget how we use to go out and eat just about every weekend and sometimes after we got off from work and enjoy laughs and good times together....he was my heart and that is where he will always stay........I have spent a lot of time with Carl, I had the pleasure of spending Valentine's weekend with him and we had the best time ever, another good human being gone too soon......I will always have love in my heart for Carl.......

— your gurl
Nov. 17, 2010 at 8:18 p.m.

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