Kurt Deutsch Jr., 30

Duetsch was a fromer Marine (Sgt) and I believe he has a daughter left behind. This I believe is a tragic outcome to the decisions he made in his life.

A white thug and criminal pushing drugs in East Los Angeles. Syscom3 where are your postings about this incident? Oh, I see is not a Hispanic or Black person to speak thrash about.

Mayo, if he was selling drugs or doing other criminal acts, then I shed no tears for him.

A criminal is a criminal.

And thanks for pointing this homicide out for me. The information must have been posted recently as I don't recall it.

Anything else you want to know?

I have been reading the Homicide Report for a few months now, trying to learn more about the "gang" culture. My nephew started running around with his "homies" when he was a teen. He is now in prison, and I always wondered what I could have done to help him avoid that situation. That led me in a roundabout way to the Homicide Report.
I have read alot of comments from Syscom3 and I have never read a racist comment from him. He has called on his accusers to quote his racist remarks and they have never been able to respond.
You don't have to be a genious to see that a huge percentage of murders in LA are minority vs. minority. It is quite alarming to me. I wonder why this problem isn't a huge concern for more poeple in the LA area, including minorities, especially minorities!

Mayo, just wanted to know if you actually knew Kurt or were just wasting every-bodies time posting trash on the net. Who cares if he's not Black or Hispanic, that is a very base manner in which to categorize incidents and people, this also speaks volumes to the shallowness of your character and lacking any genuine values as a person. I would ask you not to use this mans death to soap box from.

OutofIdaho, you sure sound like you're still in Idaho. Accusing Blacks or Hispanics of being a thug or a gangbanger is racist. Syscom does it quite frequently.

— InLA, quote me where I said all Latino's and blacks are thugs?

Again, people accuse me of this and that, yet dont have any proof, no matter how trivial.

InLA: insinuating that people from Idaho are likely to be racist is just as bad as being racist. Do you think people 'inLA' are somehow superior to people in Idaho? Cause it sure sounded that way just now.

My opinion is "out of Idaho" but thankfully I am still here. I wasn't sure if you were insinuating that Idahoans are racist or ignorant. I wish to assure you that I am neither. I still haven't seen a quote from sys3 that shows racism. Not all minorities are gangsters and not all Idahoans are racist. That's just ignorant.

Please do not use this mans death to soap box from or try to prove personal points. I doubt anybody else here even knew Kurt, let alone worked with him or served with him. None of you were there to receive the generosity or help that was always available from him, certainly weren't there to help him when he needed it. He was not a malicious person and a good friend, so if you have points to make please just call each other or make them in person.

I had the pleasure of being part of K but was given the chance to really get to know what he was all about, and he spke through his heart with all that he came across! I was and still am amazed, to find that he cared a a whole lot more than the average-person. I don't know why his life caused as a threat, that his own was taken, that was a big mistake!May they find the one responsible for this evil-act, and justice be served, for he still live's on in my thought's and my heart, may he rest peacefully, and forever be my Matt, = a true friend, who cared more for other's before himself, from my experience with him, and what I've seen with him! I miss you, and will keep your memory alive, through me!!!!! .... VERONIKA******

Out Of Idaho, I didn't mean to say you or people from Idaho are racists. The message that I tried to get across is that you may have not been reading the HR for a long time to see Syscom's posting patterns. Syscom3, you do refer to Blacks and Hispanics as gangsters in many of your postings. That is straight out racist. Citizenjohn, my intent when I addressed someone still being in Idaho was for making a point of them not having any knowledge about LA's crime and of Syscom's postings.

— InLA, the facts are very clear about one thing. The vast majority of murders in LA County are Black or Latino's. And many of them are gangsters, or gang enablers. Do you, or do you not understand that?

On the rare occasion that a white gangster has been murdered, I have voiced my opinion in exactly the same words as I reserve for all criminals.

Now, explain to me how I am racist when I dislike criminals of any race?

Once again, people accuse of of things when they don't have a shred of evidence to back it up.

inLA-

Yawn....so now referring to previously identified gangsters as such is "racist"? Man, you all are grabbin at straws....

Syscom, the fact the majority of murder victims are Latinos and Blacks is not a reason for you, Chris or anybody else to assume that each Latino or Hispanic murdered is a gangster. You, for the most part, judge a Latino or Black of being a gangster. Technically speaking you are not racist, but you sure are prejudice. To refresh your memory prejudice is define as unsubstantiated prejudgment of an individual or group, favorable or unfavorable in character, tending to action in a consonant direction. As far as I'm concern prejudice and racist go hand-in-hand. Since you encourage people in this blog to take law classes at community classes you may want to start taking your own advise.

InLA-

Again, you're making things up. I can only own up to what I've said personally, but I haven't seen where syscom has implied "each Latino or Hispanic murdered is a gangster". Please show me where that's been the case in exact quotes, please. I've only commented on gangsters when it's been ESTABLISHED by the police and/or family/friends that the person was one. Please, drop the race-baiting. It really is pathetic.

Well for all of you who thought you knew kurt, well nobody knew him better than me. Although he we had our ups and downs I knew him for a long time lived with him a few times and even moved for him to a place that does not give a crap about human life! I helped him as much as I could but he kept hanging out with the wrong people. period. I was the only one who always bailed him out of everything. people need to realize that he wasn't the person he appeared to be. i know from experience.I have been distraught these past couple of weeks trying to cope with his sudden death. So the people who only knew him for a short time need to rethink about what they say.....Yes I am his daughters mother.

I knew Kurt from the streets and met him when he came to east los . From the start I knew he didn't fit in and watched many people take advantage of him because he didn't fit in .. he was a good man with huge heart , who would go out of his way for others , lost in a circle of some scanless . Selfish ,and heartless people I actually sat with him and we talked about his life , wife and daughter . I sat and watched him cry after a conversation with his daughter and telling me how much he missed them both. My heart goes out to his family , all though I only knew him for a short time . I will really truly miss him and will never forget him .

I am the detective investigating this murder. If anyone out there has any information they want to share, please email me at drgunner@lasd.org

I can't believe that so much trash talk and needless conversation has been attached to this article...an article about the tragic death of a man who was loved by many. This man served his country and should be commended for that. He may have made some bad decisions that sent his life unraveling but he regretted every bit of it. Just because a person makes a bad decision and becomes a criminal does not mean that we should no longer shed tears for their loss...or care less about their wellbeing. I loved this man with all that I had for many years. A love that may have changed, but never wavered....despite any bad decisions he may have made. I hope that justice is served...

I'm sorry if I gsve anyone the wrong idea about kurt. I am angry that I didn't get to say everything I wanted to say to him and that he was taken away in such a violent manner that I cannot even imagine. But I will say that we did have our share of good times together and Me snd his daughter will miss him soo much. I know he loved his daughter more than anything and it was just hard for him to stop the life he was tangled in. I dont know how many times I tried to make him get help and that was the whole reason for us moving down to Ontario so he could clean up and live a great life with me and his daughter. But he chose something else and nothing could change his mind. Its almost like it's not real some moments and that he is gonna call or text me and I have to come to terms with his death. It is going to take awhile for me, I know. I did have unconditional love for him and I wish everything would have turned out to have a happy ending but unfortunatly careless selfish animals that can shoot someone like that have to take away a person that ment so much to everyone deserves whatever god has planned for them.

It's a shame what happened to Kurt but that is the life some of us have chosen and we know where this will lead us. Jails, insanity, or death. I feel blessed to have overcome my drug and alcohol addiction...at least for now. I take one die at a time and when things get tough...one moment at a time. I have 59 days clean and sober. If you are in pain and suffering, do urself and ur loved ones and those that care about you a favor...just surrender to this disease. I am blessed to be here with minimum consequences. Give urself a break and help urself and then help others. Believe me...it's a much better way to live.

Its sad that people want to sit here and make such brash comments about the DEATH and murder of a man who not only sereved our country, but was a FATHER. although I didnt know Kurt well, I met him a few times through his daughters mother. and although he might not have been a saint, and he might have made some bad choices, it doesnt give right for anyone to try and jusify the fact that he was murdered and say he had it coming. the real victim here though is truly his daughter. who will grow up without her father present. lets all take a minute to sit and reflect upon our own actions. i guareantee none of us have led a perfect life.

I've been reading these comments and wish everyone knew the real story . Kurt was not a criminal . Not a Thug , not a drug dealer he was a honest hard working family guy. Drugs are addicting and cand change a person. His drug became first priority. He Came to east los chasing a high . Started hanging with people who really used ,always high at first its all good but some only look out for them self . They will use and abuse and Kurt a straight white boy in the ghetto with gangsters and thugs . Knows nothing about how scanless people really are and they used him , stoled , and abused him. But he held his own, always fighting back . But He really didn't know how things are and can get . he tried to fit in. He was a good man , with a big heart and left his mark on our hearts and for that he will remain in our hearts and our thoughts. For his journey here he didn't just make enemys he made some friends and that's why lots of us are still in shock of his tragic death . And he will be missed

Dear Truthbetold,

Really? They will use and abuse and Kurt a strait white guy in the ghetto what? I am white...raised in Laguna Beach. Got into some problems with a boyfriend and ended up spending about two years strung out. First of all he was not a straight white guy he had his problems...he was not some innocent who did not know what he was doing! He knew that hanging out with thugs and getting a quick high was the best thing that happened to him. I know I was there for two years. I hung out in the low life and did things that I know when I meet my maker I'm going to have to pay for...never killed, or robbed or stole but did do other things that I should not have done. But do you really think that this man was so dumb that he didn't know what he was doing? He knew and liked it and didn't want to get out of it. There are way too many ways to get out even for the most hard nosed drug user in the moments when one is not high each of us has that moment when we know we are just tired of doing this stuff, tired of feeling this way and just want out. Kurt knew the way out, he just wasn't ready for it. I don't think he deserved to die for it but he knew what he was doing and what it might cost him and he was more ok with it then you want to beleive. Sorry

yeah, that is a shame what happened to kurt. He knew what he was doing and was well aware of the consequences. When u are an addict, you NEED to hit rock bottom AND you NEED to surrender to the disease. As Danni said it, "He didn't want to get out of it." It was because to him, he had not yet his rock bottom and wasn't ready to surrender. In order to start the recovery process you must do both unfortunately. And furthermore, everyone's rock bottom is different. Danni, I wish you well in your recovery. And to those still in the disease, give yourself a break and let go. I did so 71 days ago and must take everyday one day at a time.

I knew Kurt for 15 yrs and had recently gotten back in touch with him over the last yr. We talked often and all of a sudden his phone calls stopped....googled him tonight to try and find him on facebook and ran upon this article....I'm heart broken. He was a wonderful man and will always be remembered by me. Drugs are so evil and have always been his struggle. I hope in death he finds the peace he never found in life....I Love You Kurt! I can't remember his Daughters Mothers name but if you read this please find me I would like to know more...<3/Jennifer R.

its been a whole year since he's been gone doesnt feel like it. Feels like just yesterday that I talked to him on the phone and seen him for the last time a week before he was bruitally murdered. Now our daughter has to live without him for the rest of her life hanging on to pictures and memories of her dad that she hardly remembers anymore. We will always grieve for him everytime we hear a song he liked or a car he adored, or his favorite food. Not too many people know those personal things about him other than the people who loved him the most. But i think we have come a long way in regards to grieving. God bless him and I really hope he found peace before the lord took him and that he remembered all of us before he passed. We loved him despite the mishaps he ran into in his life, just wish he wouldve made more responsible choices, he wouldve been very accomplished in his life now. Its been hard.Every time I look at my daughter i see him cuz she looks identicle to him. He was a hard worker when he wanted to be, his school proved it, he used to come home so excited about making student of the quarter like 8 times. He was very optimistic at times and i believe he wanted to change but couldnt cuz of his disease with drugs. He will be remembered through the people who loved and knew his best, me and his daughter. RIP we remembered him through pictures today and planted a flower in our yard to remember him and honor his life.