Homicide Report > Ricardo Molina, 28 [Updated]

Ricardo Molina, 28 [Updated]

Died May 14, 2010 at 10:18 p.m.

Ricardo Molina

Ricardo Molina, a 28-year-old Latino, was shot and killed Friday, May 14, in the 4400 block of East Tuttle Street in East Los Angeles, according to Los Angeles County coroner's records.

Molina was found suffering from several gunshot wounds about 9:40 p.m., said Ed Winter, spokesman for the coroner's office. He was taken to County-USC Medical Center, where he died at 10:18 p.m., according to coroner's records.

Winter did not have any additional information about the incident.

The Times will provide more information about the incident as soon as it becomes available.

[Update May 19: Molina was standing on a sidewalk when a car drove up and someone inside the vehicle shot at him, said sheriff’s homicide Det. Troy Ewing, who is handling the investigation.

Ewing said authorities do not know whether the shooter was the driver or a passenger. They also did not have a description of the vehicle.

Ewing said Molina was a known gang member, but said it was not clear if the individual or individuals involved in his shooting are also involved in a gang.

Anyone with information about the death of Ricardo Molina is asked to contact Dets. Ewing or Mark Lillienfeld at the L.A. County Sheriff's homicide bureau at (323) 890-5500.]

— Sarah Ardalani

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Updated: May 19, 2010 at 11:34 p.m.

 
 

127 reader comments about Ricardo Molina

love u Ricky<3

— Jazmine
May 19, 2010 at 3:14 p.m.

Ricky was a loving guy that always respected his elders. I love you Ricky, your family will never forget you.
Love Your Aunt,
Angie Santos

— Maria Santos
May 19, 2010 at 3:23 p.m.

ricky,toda la familia te vamos a estranar,porque eras una persona que ayudabas mucho a la gente adulta,te queremos y te estranaremos mucho tu tio roberto.

— roberto celis
May 19, 2010 at 7:17 p.m.

Miss you lil cuz, we'll never forget you, love you...

— Robert
May 19, 2010 at 7:22 p.m.

I miss you Ricky, I promise that I'm going to do whatever it takes to become a CSI so things like this won't happen to other families. I'm going to graduate for you.

— Katherine Garcia
May 19, 2010 at 9:30 p.m.

Ricky was always respectful to his aunts and uncles. We love you and miss you.
Your aunt

— Helen Garcia
May 19, 2010 at 9:34 p.m.

I love you ricky,you were a great cousin to me.i will always miss you and will never ever forget you.

— Tiffany
May 19, 2010 at 10:14 p.m.

Ricky, will be missed by his whole family, specially his babies who need him. No child deserves to grow up without a father. But they should know that their family will be here for them and their daddy will be watching over them from heaven. Love u Ricky.

— Roxy
May 19, 2010 at 11:48 p.m.

love & miss you. you'll always be in our hearts. i'll be sending prayers your way.

— nena
May 19, 2010 at 11:58 p.m.

Ricki you will definately be missed by many. You were always so happy, loving and kind, so full of joy.

— Martha
May 20, 2010 at 12:11 a.m.

Ricki was always happy, loving and kind. So full of joy, you will definately be missed.

— Martha
May 20, 2010 at 12:14 a.m.

We love you Ricky, you will always be in our hearts and prayers.

— Hector and Lupe Celis
May 20, 2010 at 10:48 a.m.

i cant believe ur gone ricky =( u were a great person with a good heart. always repected everyone and always had love for ur fam.. i love u and i miss u =( ur our angel now..

— daisy celis
May 20, 2010 at 3:59 p.m.

I still can't believe your gone...You will be truly missed. love you cuz!

— Chave
May 20, 2010 at 5:03 p.m.

The deceased was a gangster.

Why should any of you be surprised or upset he got murdered? That's what happens to gangsters. its an occupational hazard.

I'm just wondering how much blood is on his hands?

— syscom3
May 20, 2010 at 6:13 p.m.

he has a son named Ricardo and he is in my class and he is very sad

— gfdg
May 20, 2010 at 7:58 p.m.

It is truly sad that u r gone. I know u were a great person its just the obstacles & environment that u were put in that made u & eventually destroyed u. My deepest condolences go out 2 ur mother who is great woman No woman should go throu the pain of lossing a child in such a tragic circumstance. I know our paths will cross again R.I.P.

— D
May 21, 2010 at 10:35 a.m.

R.i.p

— DEE
May 21, 2010 at 10:39 a.m.

It is truly sad that u r gone. I know u were a great person its just the obstacles & environment that u were put in that made u & eventually destroyed u. My deepest condolences go out 2 ur mother who is great woman No woman should go throu the pain of lossing a child in such a tragic circumstance. I know our paths will cross again R.I.P.

— xoxo Always
May 21, 2010 at 11:56 a.m.

This has been very hard for your family to deal with. I know that you are now in a better place watching over all of us. You will always be in our hearts and prayers.

— Laura C.
May 21, 2010 at 1:48 p.m.

This shows how ignorant you are...GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULL.....ALL GANG MEMBERS ARE NOT KILLERS......IDIOT....

— CALI
May 21, 2010 at 2:31 p.m.

All gang members are criminals and are associated with a criminal enterprise.

By defintion, they are sociopaths.

If one member of a gang kills someone, then all of the members of that gang should be held responsible.

— syscom3
May 21, 2010 at 4:42 p.m.

syscom3 word of advise don't spit up, it will land in your face. Who do you think you are to judge anybody what you need to do is shut your mouth and show some respect something your mother obviously didn't teach you.

All my respects to the family

— Jessica
May 21, 2010 at 7:46 p.m.

Jessica, I will continue to speak out against sociopathic gangsters who are falsely made into wonderful people.

In your world, violent people are immune to judgment. In the real world where the tax payer has to pay for the mess these malfeasant individuals incur, I will judge them very harshly.

And the saying you are referring to is "don't spit into the wind", not "spit up".

— syscom3
May 21, 2010 at 11:10 p.m.

Don't gangstas realize they are basically slaves to the people they despise. The Blacks and Latinos run around killing each other. Adolph Hitler would be so proud.

— MJL
May 21, 2010 at 11:33 p.m.

Ricky, You will always be in our hearts and memories. My thoughts and prayers are with you...

My deepest condolences go out to his wife, babies, and family.

"To Infinity and Beyond" :D

— ~M @}-'-,--
May 21, 2010 at 11:43 p.m.

Love and miss U Ricardo. we all know what a wonderful person you were, we dont need other idiots and their lack of knowledge telling us otherwise. You'll live forever in our hearts!

— Sandy F
May 22, 2010 at 11:57 a.m.

Shame on you haters. Ricardo R.I.P. And To The Molina Family we love you and God Bless.

— FRIENDS
May 22, 2010 at 12:28 p.m.

We miss u baby...n no one knew u like me...they're quick to judge...but dnt know u...fkn idiots...gangsters change and have lifes n are human beings lame ass...rest in pardise my love well meet again...
Ur wife&children

— vanessa molina
May 22, 2010 at 12:30 p.m.

U were a husband and a great father...ppl jst make mistakes...and sadly u were taken from us...its the harsh reality I refuse to believe...that ure gone...forever in my heart my love...

Love ur wife vanessa

— vee molina
May 22, 2010 at 12:39 p.m.

Ricky was a wonderful son, father, husband, and friend. U will never be forgotten but will always be missed !! My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family !!! May u rest in pardise !!! And to syscom3 you are one ignorant person!!! Don't speak up or judge people u obviously know nothing about !!! We Love you Ricky see u on the other side ......... Love your Friend JoAnNa

— *JoAnNa*
May 22, 2010 at 5:48 p.m.

Ricky was a wonderful Son, Father, Husband, and Friend... U will never be forgotten but will always be missed !!! My thoughts and prayers go out to u and your family. .... And to syscom3... U are one ignorant person... Dont speak up or judge people u obviously know nothing about !!! We Love U Ricky and wish u were here See U on the other side... May u Rest In Paradise !!! Love Your Friend... *JoAnNa*

— *JoAnNa*
May 22, 2010 at 6:03 p.m.

*JoAnNa*, the deceased was a known gang member. He has blood on his hands from the terror he and his fellow sociopaths inflicted upon others.

I will continually remind you of that. He might be a sweet loving individual to you. But to others, he was not a nice person. Ultimately, you are judged by what you did in your life. And god is going to tell him a few things he will not like.

— syscom3
May 22, 2010 at 10:38 p.m.

were always gonna miss u ricky we know u were a great person...n for those who didnt know u shouldnt speak up.their is only one person who can judge n that is god.we all have made mistakes no one is perfect.ur always gonna be in our hearts n memories...r.i.p...TO INFINITY & BEYOND...

— vicky love...
May 23, 2010 at 10:34 a.m.

missing you cant belive ur gone...but i know ur in a better place with god watching over all of us n specially ur babys n wife & family who loves u very much...always gonna keep u in my prayers& in my heart..miss u ricky to infinity & beyond...r.i.p...

— vicky love
May 23, 2010 at 11:17 a.m.

syscom3...Show some respect for my family. If he was in a gang or not, thats makes no difference to you or anyone else. A gang is just an extension of his family. I served 9 years in the Marines protecting idiots like you that have no respect.

Ricky i luv & miss you!! keep smilling cause we got your back!!

— Eddie Celis
May 23, 2010 at 12:25 p.m.

Eddie Celis "A gang is just an extension of his family."

Oh really? So your whole family is a criminal organization? Multi-generation sociopaths?

And I am sick and tired of my tax money paying for the police and prison system to protect society from gangsters like your family. Go back to the marines. Let them keep an eye on you.

And I am still waiting for an apology from your family, to the citizens of this state, for all the harm he did to others and for the tax money that's been wasted on him.

— syscom3
May 23, 2010 at 1:17 p.m.

Eddie-

What a completely backwards and twisted logic. I bet victims of scumbag gangsters would beg to differ as to whether it "makes no difference".

— Chris
May 23, 2010 at 4 p.m.

Your tax money is being spent foolishly by that Governator guy......Lear jets......First class trips.....that's where your tax dollars are......IF YOU AREN'T FROM THE STREETS ...YOU WONT UNDERSTAND.......PERIOD....Stop Comparing every one's situation to yours.....You Are the Sociopath.....All these people you torture are your targets.....no remorse....isn't that some of the definitions of sociopaths??? This has been going on for 3 generations....Fathers, sons...Growing up in the same Gang.....Stop acting like this just started...This isn't some new phenomenon..If they aint stopped in 30 years...WHAT MAKES YOU THINK ITS GONNA STOP NOW??????? Like the documentary says.... BLOODS AND CRIPS......MADE IN AMERICA....GET A CLUE ...IDIOT

— CALI
May 23, 2010 at 6:38 p.m.

Its so sad to have to read fatuous opinions like the ones left by ignorants. like if they knew Ricky and what he was all about, to say he had blood in his hands. what does this idiot have sh*t in his mouth to be spitting it all out.so i ask for everybody that knew Ricky to please ignore those types of comments, we all know what type of person Ricky was and we don't need others telling us otherwise. that's why there's so much hate in this world, because of people like syscom3, who do nothing but instigate and disrespect others. I wonder what would God think of him and those types of actions?

LOVE YOU RICKY!!! FOREVER IN MY HEART!

— SANDY F
May 23, 2010 at 7:09 p.m.

Missing U Ricky...... To Infinity and Beyond ! U will always be in our hearts, thoughts, and prayers.... Rest In Paradise....... Syscom3 U r so ignorant ! U keep saying he was not a nice person... Ha Ha.. How do u know how he was and what he did in his life ... For all we know u might have more blood in your hands then he did ! We are also citizens and taxpayers in this country... I do know that only GOD can judge us... And that when it's the end of your time God is also going to tell u a few things ! Let's just hope he starts with teaching u respect cause u obviously know nothing about that.. Please get of this page and let the family greive in peace !!! WE LOVE U RICKY..... Love Your Friend *JoAnNa*

— *JoAnNa*
May 23, 2010 at 9:11 p.m.

miss you my boy...is never gonna be the same with out you...r.i.p...RICKY...to infinity & beyond...always gonna be in my heart n prayers...god bless u n ur family...

— vicky love
May 23, 2010 at 10:53 p.m.

Hey Cali-
Black people were slaves for over 200 years in this country. Even when they became free they were still dumped on for another 100+ years. Should we all just figure that its been going on for so long why change it? When will everyone from the street wake up and realize that gangs lead to prison or death? Why do so many accept this as being "The way it is"? If families really care about each other then they need to teach the young to stay the hell away from gangs instead of teaching generation after generation to keep killing and stealing. You people are your own worst enemy. According to your beliefs god punishes the evildoer but you all seem to think gangsters are exempt from punishment. Stop putting so much faith in what happens next and concentrate on what happens now. Its time for a change. If you refuse to change then please stop reproducing.

— Paco
May 23, 2010 at 11:39 p.m.

What is with you Cali? Everyone knows this gang banging garbage has been going on for decades. Does that make it acceptable to you? Just under the surface you seem to celebrate the gang culture. Why? Can't you see the death and destruction in and around that culture? This good family here has to suffer a tremendous loss most likely for one reason only: Ricky belonged to a gang. And once you join this 'extended family', you are marked by rival gang bangers. The cycle just continues with more death and destruction and the main reason is because so many people like you refuse to challenge it. Please people, educate your children: the gang lifestyle equals death. Period. It is not to be tolerated and especially not celebrated.

— Citizenjohn
May 24, 2010 at 9:08 a.m.

The Problem is i live in reality...all this talking accomplishes nothing...all this talk is preaching to the choir.....HOW MANY COUNTLESS DISCUSSIONS DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE ON GANG LIFE....MILLIONS and the same thing still happens...No Jobs,drugs, recession....all this in low income hoods.....DO YOU THINK THIS TALKING IS GONNA CHANGE IT.... and what do you mean ..." YOU PEOPLE" evidently you are a white guy with a great job...And i dont want to hear ...its different just go get a job.....Its not that Easy...Thats why i say if you not from the streets you wont understand...YES I'M TIRED OFF ALL THIS KIILING...but i know TALKING AINT GONNA CHANGE NOTHING... If you think i celebrate gangs that's your opinion.....I LIVE IN REALITY....How do you think you can relate to what we go through??? All these white people think they have the answer.....PERCHED HIGH FROM ABOVE....YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US......God Punishes Everyone....where did i say Gangsters are exempt...stop putting words in my mouth.... DON'T YOU THINK MILLIONS OF PARENTS TELL THEY KIDS DON'T BE IN A GANG.....AND WHAT HAPPENS...THEY END UP BANGIN.....I'M SORRY I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD.....SOME OF YOU NEED TO MOVE TO IT...yes i see the death and destruction...but what is this talking going to do.....IMPOVERISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AINT CHANGIN NO TIME SOON...SO PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO WHAT THEY GOTTA DO TO SURVIVE...SELL DRUGS , COMMIT CRIMES......GANGS ARE BAD I KNOW THIS...BUT HEY WALK DOWN THE STREET AND ACT LIKE THEY DON'T EXIST.......Then what will happen????

— CALI
May 24, 2010 at 12:10 p.m.

i hate syscoms posts. that poster usually sounds like a 10th grader who saw "boyz in the hood" one too many times. just a bunch of generalizations and proclamations about stuff he knows very little about. hes most likely removed in some sleepy suburb sitting comfortable behind his monitor, living vicariously through these urban males he so cherishes reading about. most of his posts are garbage.

but in this situation... i might have to agree with him. this guy ricky was a thug. a cholo. a documented gang member. are those the people we should really be looking up to or memorializing? hes probably not the best role model. and really, people dont get shot for nothing. what ever he put into the world came back to him.
i just have one question to all his supporters...
if he wasnt your friend or family member would you still feel the same way about him? what if he was from rickys rival gang? would you still defend him?

he wasnt a poster child. its sad that hes dead. but you live by the gun, you die by the gun.

— unico
May 24, 2010 at 12:13 p.m.

U will Be miss Ricky. I cant believe u ppl. out there, there has been a death in the family & all u guys are doing is talking sh*t about him being in a gang who cares if he was HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE FAMILY... To us he was a good man

— Mr. Perea
May 24, 2010 at 12:20 p.m.

Is all you foolish gang types say is "only God can Judge"? God has already judged. Your "homie" is burning as we speak. Cali, eddie, your just plain ignorant. Eddie, having a loser like you in the marines taints the organization. Your no marine pal. Far too stupid.

— John
May 24, 2010 at 12:36 p.m.

-syscom3 your right my homeboy was and is a real gangster and he was as real as they come. We play the cards the way they are delt . we our who we our . I also know only god can judge and you sure as he'll are not god we will be answearing to god when the time comes, but so will you he will tell you who the hell are you to judge I wonder what will you say, I am christ your son, no because Christ was not a sinner and you are so how can you through stones when your dumn ass is a sinner just like us. As for your tax money come on now your ass problebly don't even work. Now let my my homeboy rest ... Chino

— Chino
May 24, 2010 at 2:25 p.m.

Syscom3 I'm with u 100%. I grew up in a very bad neighborhood and seen the terror and destruction these gang members cause. Gang banging is nothing more than organized stupidity and most of the gang bangers I know of either died, went to jail for a long time or changed the game.

— Barney R
May 24, 2010 at 2:28 p.m.

Unico-

It's hard to read your post and come away concluding that you hate Syscom's....if you really do, then you need to reread what he writes. Your post says exactly the same things that he and others like myself have been saying: these idiot gangbangers aren't role models, they destroy the community, and these people aren't angels like many of their friends and family try to turn them into after the fact. All points you made very well.

— Chris
May 24, 2010 at 2:48 p.m.

This is all bull!!u didn't know my husband as well as I did...u ppl are ignorant!!Let's us grief in peace!!!don't u ppl have any manner's?obviously not!!so just leave us alone!!don't alway's believe what u read!!ppl change!!only god can judge RICKY..we LOVE U.TODAY TOMMORROW N ALWAYS... so everyone talking crap!!get off of here!! We jst lost someone we love n miss...

— vanessa molina
May 24, 2010 at 4:08 p.m.

John, Syscom3
All I can say and do is laugh at your comments.. If you want to bash gangs then change forums and i will bash them with you. I support FAMILY not gangs. Family!! If my cousin was in a gang, then i support HIM! John I am more of a MAN then you will ever be! I served honerably for 9 years and im also a combat vet. The only gang I support is the Military gang. What ever your story is to go with that hatred then im sorry for you.

— Eddie
May 24, 2010 at 4:08 p.m.

I really wish the people who didn't know Ricky would stop talking about him. He grew up with my son, his cousin, and for whatever reason, Ricky went down the wrong path, my son didn't. I know that in the last couple of years he really was trying to get away from that life, trying to help his mother. The fact that he was a gang member doesn't alleviate the pain and suffering his family has gone through. It doesn't mean he didn't have a family that loved and cared for him and prayed for him. I don't know for a fact everything that happened, but please let the dead rest in peace.

— Lupe Celis
May 24, 2010 at 4:39 p.m.

Thanks Chino.....thanks for clarifying what this man was. As for you, I just love how "religious" everyone gets on this thing. "Only God Can Judge"....and about Christ, as if people like you, while you're robbing, stealing, shooting, killing people give a rat's azz about God. Yeah, ya'll will be answering, as will we. Somehow I think he'll look a lot more kindly on those of us who are good to our fellow man, not in gangs, not harming people, not stealing, than morons like you who use poverty or "the hand that was dealt" you as a license to do whatever you want to do, to whoever you want to do, regardless of the consequences.

— Chris
May 24, 2010 at 6:52 p.m.

Chris come on now Jack ass you make your self seem so inocent like you have never done anything bad in your life mr goody ha ha ya right come back to reality we will both be judged the same and we will both end up in the same place see you there . Chino

— Chino
May 25, 2010 at noon

First of all to SYSCOM3, your Mother should apologize to the World for putting you in it. You and all of those that are being very disrespectful to all of our FAMILY AND FRIENDS that are currently going thru a very hard moment by loosing one of our very loved FAMILY MEMBER. I ask you to please get off this forum and take your ignorant and lack of intelligence and post your disturbung comments elsewhere. I don't understand how people can have so much crap in their heads like you. If my nephew was a gang member he was still part of our family, so deal with it. It is none of your business or your place to be judging him and posting your ridiculous comments about him. By me saying this and deffending him does not make me a gangster like one of your comments said. It makes me one of many of his family members that is hurting for loosing a loved one, and I ask you to please stop your ignorant and disturbung behavior and let us remember our loved one how ever we want to. All I can say is that I pitty people like you for being so dammed bitter and unhappy with life... To All of our Family & Friends; We all know who Ricky was and as long as we know that, let this ignorant individuals bark as much as they want. No of us should scoop down to their level. Im sure they have a lot to carry with themselves. May you rest in peace RICKY! your family and friends will always have your back and that is a lot too many of us. You'll always be in our hearts and prayers.

— Laura Celis
May 25, 2010 at 12:24 p.m.

chris, the reality is that very rarely does syscom have anything of substance to add to the board. its always some generalization, insensitive question or silly proclamation.

this is the first time i would agree with him. this post of his makes sense. the rest are just garbage.

he tries to talk about things he does not understand. simple as that.

as for the family. my condolences.
and this is a public forum. you can control what the world thinks or says of your loved one on a facebook memorial page if you want. as such this is open to all opinions.

yes he was a son, had a mother, etc etc. but you must remember, we all choose our paths in life. he chose his, it ended up in a bad way. the commentors are not to blame for the life ricky led. in the same way that the death of this young man is not the commentors fault either. the shooter is at fault.

this should be a lesson learned. dont join gangs. that way the chances of getting shot are greatly reduced.

(live from florence and graham)
unico

— UNICO
May 25, 2010 at 2:53 p.m.

My deepest condolences go 2 ur mother who is great woman No woman should go throu the pain of lossing a child, R.I.P.RICKY

— YARED
May 26, 2010 at 8:53 a.m.

Cali-
If you're still reading I apologize for taking so long to respond. By 'YOU PEOPLE" I am not referring to any one specific ethnic group. I am simply referring to anyone who condones and tolerates gang activity then wonders why their gangster family member had to die. I find it very sad that so many young people find it necessary to kill each other. It will never stop as long as YOU PEOPLE accept it as the way things are. Stop asking god why your loved one was shot or stabbed and ask yourself. I wish the U.S. military would get involved being that all gang members are basically terrorists that wreak havoc everyday in America. Gangs need to be exterminated and wiped out. Just think how much better off YOU PEOPLE would be.

— Paco
May 28, 2010 at 10:31 p.m.

Syscom3_ (Ur MOTHER must be FaUlKnER).lol.

"The wisest man is he who knows he does not know." socrates-so if you have nothing else to do but to disrespect my family, take the time to do the math after reading this quote from a great philosopher and apply it to yourself. Need help? Let me make this easy for you
1.) you + claimming to know right/wrong = not being wise
..and as for me, all I know is that I know nothing more than what my family already knows about my cousin Ricky; he is, he was and will continue being a smart, funny, great, wonderful loving family member who is extremely missed. RIP ricky, ur fat cousin mayra loves you..ur gone but we r still a team..right?

P.s...syscom3-you have a lot to say for someone who's pretty worthless himself...
..you begin with harsh judgements that seem certain to you and disrespectful to me..FYI here's some words of advice " if u begin with certanties, u shall end in doubts. But if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties." _Francis Bacon.

— mayra navarro
June 3, 2010 at 3:35 a.m.

In the end, we can sum this all up.

The deceased was a gangster. Gangsters and their associates are criminals who terrorize people and neighborhoods. Those types of people are bad.

It doesnt matter what their family says about them because its the victims of the criminals who really know the true charachter of them.

Being a gangster is a high risk occupation in which youre either killed, thrown in prison or your body and soul gets wrecked. Why should anyone be upset when that happens?

God enables people to judge criminal acts.

If anyone has a child to raise and take care of, why in the world would you put them at risk by engaging in criminal activity? Perhaps the gangsters true love was for the gang and not their primary responsibility?

— syscom3
June 3, 2010 at 9:58 a.m.

— mayra navarro
Socrates really? first time here.
Maybe u should of shared your philosophy w ur gangbanging cousin! Don’t u get it by now gangsters are by choice, they are not innocent and get no sympathy parties here! That is the families job (most of the time). He and ur gangbanging supporting life style are the reason he is dead. The community will cont. express their opinions on his and all similar cases where the loser gangster life style is supported!

— YURI
June 3, 2010 at 10:49 a.m.

Apparently the comentators like syscom3, yuri and many others this is what they do. I can picture you all behind the computer doing nothing but throwing out here their ignorance. Let me make something clear Our family is a huge family and in this family of course we teach our children between right and wrong. We do not support gangbanging lifestyle as "YURI" has commented and like "YURI" said "gangsters are by choice" you just contradict yourselves on your comments.. So I stopped paying attention to your dumb comments because I don't think you even know what the hell you are talking about. We can raise our kids and show them between right and wrong, but as they grow up they make their own choices in life. Just like we all do. It does not mean we or not on top of them telling them that it is wrong. All you've been saying is that our family supports gang activity, and well many can read your comments, but let me tell you something about our family. In our family weve got Teachers, Social Workers, a Hygienist and most if not all of our younger siblings are in college. Who knows maybe one day when you're in need one of our family members will be the one who helps your ass out. So regardless of who is in our family thats what we are FAMILY and we all have eachothers backs no matter what. I can keep going but it will not make a difference, you people will keep going on and on. So More Power to you all. Now PLEASE let my nephew REST IN PEACE!!!

— Laura Celis
June 3, 2010 at 12:53 p.m.

Syscom3/ yuri

You both need to get a life..you're on this forum more than any one of my family members. You both must really enjoy "gangsters" because its obvious you can't get over them as you are still updating your worthless comments. If my cousin was a gangster or not, who are you to critisize? This doesn't make his death ok or acceptable by any means. ... mind your own business and get a life...you guys will make me laugh my socks off if you continue to update your unwanted comments...thank you anyways..

— mayra
June 3, 2010 at 1:08 p.m.

You people are ignorant!!!u knew nothing about my husband....freeken people get off of here and let my husband the father of my children REST||DIDN'T UR MOM TEACH U MANNERS YURI SYCOM WHOEVER THE HELL U ARE!!!people make choices in life and everyone messes up in life and. Nobodys PERRFECT!!!not even u ppl leaving messages!!!do u ppl not have a life!!?u guys are so obsessed with my husbands death...won't u ppl find something else to do besides disrespect my man!!! "May u rest in paradise" we love n miss u baby..... VEE

— vanessa
June 5, 2010 at 1:25 a.m.

— vanessa, everyone makes mistakes in life. But for a huge majority of people in the world; mistakes in life do not include criminal conduct.

And I will continue to speak about your husband because of the harm he has done to society. Do not make him to be a person that he wasn't.

I am waiting from you an apology for all the crimes he committed and the tax money we wasted on him. And a heart felt apology to all the victims of his transgressions would also be appreciated.

— syscom3
June 5, 2010 at 8:06 a.m.

Won't u shut your danm trap!!!and I'm not going to apologize to anybody!!!u can all go to h3ll... he payed taxes,I payed taxes...why don't u freeken worry about ur own danm family...u danm jerks!!!how in the world do u know he commited any crimes...dnt judge him u knew nothing about him alright!!!freeken disrespctful ignorant person! Hopefully the person who raised u isn't rolling inthier grave...for not teaching u any manners!!! Its obvious u don't have a life,because here u are leaving dumb messages...get a freeken life!!

— vanessa molina
June 6, 2010 at 7:33 p.m.

syscom3 look u ingnorant person mind ur buisness n get off this page do nobody owes u nothing.if anithyng u owe us sum respect.im a real gangster n i pay taxes too n belive me am a gansgster n am proud of it ill pay my dues when i die.ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME.. nobody is makeing ricky look like something he wasnt.u obvisley didnt know him like we did so we can talk bout like we want cuz we knew him better than u.all u talk bout is taxes n dum stuff who cares bout that cus we dont.still missing u ma boy r.i.p..always gonna remember u how u were and the real gangster u were we love u like that anyway.

— vicky love
June 7, 2010 at 9:34 a.m.

He was a gang member. Show me a gang member that isn't a criminal and I'll show you some beachfront property in East LA. Right on, Syscom. Vanessa, sorry you chose to marry a punk gangbanger; any real man would care more about taking care of his family than needing to belong to a bunch of cowards to feel like they actually have some sort of power.....which they don't.

— Chris
June 7, 2010 at 12:49 p.m.

chris,my homeboy was no punk,ur da punk wash ur mouth bfore u speak bout my homeboy u idiot.syscom3 my homeboy was a gangsnter n a great dad.his kids had everything they needed n want so it doesnt make a difrrence if he was a gang member or not.n nobody owes u nothing,if anithyng u owe us sum respect specially for my homeboy n his family.im a gangster n a real one too n i pay taxes too n so what , what do u have to say bout that?let me ask u a question did u personally knew ricky?

— vickylove
June 8, 2010 at 10:13 a.m.

— vickylove; respect is earned not given. Why should I show any respect for you when none is deserved?

So you admit that both you and the deceased are gangsters. Being a gangster means you commit crimes. So tell us how much blood is on your hands?

Lets hear all about the wonderful murders, assaults and robberies your gang has committed.

And here's some news for you - being a wonderful dad does not equate into being a wonderful person.

And since you're a taxpayer, how about donating some more to cover the costs people like you incur upon society.

— syscom3
June 8, 2010 at 11:43 a.m.

Vickylove-

Your homeboy was in a gang, therefore he's a punk and a waste to society. Only morons like you hold idiots like him in such high esteem, but judging from your post I doubt you'll even understand what that means. I nor any other law abiding citizen own gangster scum like your boy or you any respect. You're the lowest of the low and you're destroying neighborhoods and cities, but you're too stupid to understand that. What do I have to say about you being a gangster? Than you're every bit the moron your homeboy was and you get no respect from me. You? Pay taxes? Bwhahaha.....50% of this country pays no federal income taxes....I'll bet my house you're apart of that 50%, but again, you're too ignorant to understand that.

— Chris
June 8, 2010 at 12:36 p.m.

"my homeboy was a gangsnter and a great dad". Statements such as these just perpetuates the promblem at hand. Great Dad and Gangster don't belong in the same paragraph nevermind the same sentance. A good father provides and protects his family, period; which this person can no longer do because of his decisions to belong to a gang and to continue to do so even after becoming a father. Another thing, "Only God can Judge", is a complete rationalization on anyones part. The funny thing is to see someone judge someone as ignorant in the same post they state,"only God can Judge". As for "Nobodys Perfect", I have to admit that is true, but some one running a stop sign versus the decision to join a criminal organiztion that has nothing but negitive impact on society and puts ones life in danger as a father are completely differant planes of perfect.

— Alh
June 8, 2010 at 1:23 p.m.

Really, LA Times? Please tell me what about my post that violated your terms that gangsta Vicky above didn't also violate. I'll be waiting. Let's see if this makes it.

Vicky-

If you're a gangster, you don't deserve anyone's respect. The only ones in society who give you any respect at all are other coward morons who think like you do...please believe the rest of us think you all are a joke. You and your homeboy are vile and contribute to the denigration of your neighborhoods and cities.

— Chris
June 8, 2010 at 6:03 p.m.

syscom3,chris, dont worry bout me n what ive done. i owe u nothing u dont know me suckers. i donate when i want n who i want to. u dont tell me what to do.am ignore u dum ppl cuz i dont have time for ignorant n disrepectfull ppl like u.miss u ricky always n for ever u'll b in a our hearts rip.so syscom 3 u didnt answer my question,who r u n did u know ricky personally?

— vickylove
June 9, 2010 at 10:39 a.m.

Nobody has the right to put my husband down...he made some screwed up choices in life,but do you know why he did?no nobody does because he only shared those thoughts with me!!!It wasn't all his fault for the person he chose to be as a youngster...there's more to it...we'll leave it at that...the last 4 yrs. He was a different persom who now had something in life to look foward to...he now had goal's in life in which some he got to accomplish...n some he didn't...beacause somebody took his life!!

— vanessa
June 9, 2010 at 11:51 a.m.

syscom3

Here's some info that u might be interested in looking at b4 opening your senseless mouth again!! the largest tax espense paid by Americans is on the National Defense system follewed by social security, medical and schools!!! prisons and most of the other things u talk about are at the end of the list. So now u say gangs are groups that terrorize people, commit murders and rob? what about your government? the tax money that u bragg about is being used to create a war to take over "steal" other countries oil. your tax money is being used to buy weapons like bombs to bomb places where millions of innocent people are being killed! so now tell me, who terrorizes who? HOW MUCH BLOOD IS IN YOUR GOVERMENTS HANDS???
You're asking for an apology when the only one that owes society an apology is your mother, for bringing such an ignorant person with a huge lack of knowledge into this world!
So you say that Ricky or any gangster doesnt deserve any respect from you! but i bet if one of them was to be standing in front of u at this moment you'll put head down, turn around and start running like the b*tch u probably are!!!! so hate it or love it thats the only respect they need from you! so now do all of us a favor and f*ck off! and by the way shove your comments and tax money up your @ss!!!

— Sandy
June 9, 2010 at 2:24 p.m.

Hey Vanessa, I don't think your posts are showing any respect or manners whatsoever. Pretty nasty tone it seems to me just in case you aren't aware of it. Rather unpleasant actually.

— Citizenjohn
June 9, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.

— vanessa, it doesnt matter what his motivations were to be a gangster; its the fact he did.

It is very hard for most people to shed a tear for the deceased. There's blood and violence on the hands of your ex-husband.

Have you thought about the true way to healing is to apologize to society and his victims for the transgressions your ex-husband committed?

— syscom3
June 9, 2010 at 2:57 p.m.

Sandy- That's funny. "the tax money that u bragg about is being used to create a war to take over "steal" other countries oil. "

Yawn......whether you agree with the war or not, please go educate yourself before talking about things you obviously have no clue about.

"but i bet if one of them was to be standing in front of u at this moment you'll put head down, turn around and start running like the b*tch u probably are!!!!"

Spare me.....the only time morons like this scare anyone is if they have a gun or much better odds, i.e. 3 on 1. These people are cowards, hence the reason they join gangs in the first place. 1 on 1? Please.....

— Chris
June 9, 2010 at 4:10 p.m.

Vicky, your posts say it all. Looks like a 12 year old's text message.

— Chris
June 9, 2010 at 4:14 p.m.

hahaha educate myself... dumb fool!
i just dont speak out of my @ss like you ignorants do, best believe that. my yrs in A.J. and world history would sure make you eat your words! If not people like Lawrence Wright, Robert Baer, John Keegan, and Andrew Langley might make you chooke on them! oh and if you don't know who they are go EDUCATE YOURSELF and perhaps read a few of their books. that might help you understand what's going on in places like Iraq before talking about a subject THAT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT hahaha.
Yeah you could surely act tough behind the monitor, say you aint afraid and whatever else you want... but we know whats up!!!
oh and one more thing CHRIS! stop showing off your ignorance because from what i know my previous comment was for SYSCOM3... are u that illiterate CHRIS?

— sandy
June 9, 2010 at 7:38 p.m.

And now we have the extremely rude crude and uneducated Sandy, hurling insults, threats and half baked nonsense. Sandy, can't you be just a tad more civil than that?

— Citizenjohn
June 10, 2010 at 7:22 a.m.

syscom3,chris,citizenjohn,go eat donuts n drink some coffee.u f*ckn idiots.u dumb asses have nothing else to do than talk about education f*ck ur education n taxes.keep on paying u dumb asses.were gonna keep on doing what we wanna do.haha suckers.

— vicky love
June 10, 2010 at 6:27 p.m.

— vicky love; Your last comment sure confirms a lot about the dysfunction that is prevalent in gangster households.

- Sandy .... the budgetary expenses you listed are decided upon by society, as expressed by our democratic institutions. Dont list federal expenditures as the costs incurred by gangsters and their pscyopathic behavior is borne mostly by local and state taxpayers.

The costs incurred are from the money society spent on him for his education and public health. We as a society expect our children to become law abiding citizens and find gainfull employment and pay their share of the tax burden. Instead, the deceased engaged in a lifestyle of criminal conduct that put a burden upon society to pay for all the elements of the criminal justice system.

And now we will also probably have to provide welfare and public assistance to the family of the dead gangster.

These costs are real. And for you to laugh it off and ignore it; is the height of irresponsibility.

Awhile ago, I had suggested to Mrs. Garvey that the homicide report should also have an overlay to show where all the assualts with weapons occur. That the true magnitude of the violence being inflicted upon the killing fields can be seen by us. And for every murder or AWW, the taxpayer is spending money. Just the shear magnitude of it is incredible. And since this state is bankrupt, I think it is only fitting that the costs associated with the gangster lifestyle and their enablers (like you) can be displayed to the public.

— syscom3
June 11, 2010 at 9:48 a.m.

One other thing is showing here. Within this culture as evidenced by Vicky Love's last rant, they can't even engage in sensible civilized dialog. Within seconds it devolves to four letter words, accusations, and violent threats. Is it any surprise then that a simple argument in the street or a misunderstanding or merely looking at someone (aka mad dogging. Give me a break!) turns into a homicide. People, why on earth do you want to live a life like that? Does it make you feel powerful or important to act out? Try behaving like a human being and you will be much more persuasive and effective in communicating.

— Citizenjohn
June 11, 2010 at 2:53 p.m.

Again, apparently the LA Times deems people like Vicki Love calling others "f'in idiots" among other things, but me responding that she's a moron is over the line? Seriously, Times, how about some consistency?

Sandy and Vicki, as others above have pointed out, perfectly demonstrate the problem. Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to live productive lives and pay taxes to support people like them; Syscom, great post about the tax burden and the criminal justice system...unfortunately, it seems that it will be way over Vicki and Sandi's level. Remember, we can go "f**k our education".

— Chris
June 11, 2010 at 5:20 p.m.

Chris,

Vicky's comment was published in error. It's most definitely against our policies. Your comment was blocked not only because I attempted to block vicky's, along with any responses to it, but also because you called her a bit more than a moron. Since blocking the original comment didn't go through, and we already have a few responses, I've decided to keep the responses we have published.

— Ken Schwencke / Los Angeles Times
June 11, 2010 at 8:20 p.m.

Hey CALI, if all gang members are not killers then WHY be in a gang?
Is it stupidity?

— wake up
June 11, 2010 at 8:50 p.m.

Dear Vicky,

I will gladly go about paying my taxed for people like you...for some where along the line either with your death or prison time my tax money evens out the score. It must have it a real nerve and you being you and unable to carry on a conversation with out reverting to well what you know best must be the hardest thing in the world for you. I will say though that at the very least my tax dollars paid off if even just the most little bit you some how learned to write a sentence that could be understood. So the civilized part of your world will continue to pay taxed so that you may raise your children and turn out more burdens to society. We will also pay our taxes so that people like you are given a fair trial before we through away the key.

— SJP
June 12, 2010 at 5:47 a.m.

"People with Antisocial Personality Disorder (sociopath, psychopath) try to get their way without being considerate of others. They show spontaneous behaviour, which humiliates or harms other people. They lack any feeling for or understanding of norms, nor have they any feeling of guilt. They do not seem to be able to plan actions or to act with foresight. Antisocial PD occurs more often in men than in women."

The irony, syscom3, is that you are also a sociopath by definition.

Judging deceased people(usually victims) while taunting their family members as they grieve is definitely abnormal behavior. The innocent family members and friends of the deceased become your "victims" as you taunt them while they grieve.

Please do one of the following:
1) coach an inner-city team and positively affect young persons
2)become a big brother and mentor an at-risk youth
3)attend the funerals of the victims you judge so you can meet the family members whom you "terrorize."

Shame on the LA Times for allowing a sociopath to terrorize the Homicide Blog.

An interview with Syscom would make a very interesting piece, please consider this.

— The Irony
June 12, 2010 at 10:47 a.m.

— The Irony; that's pretty funny. If I am a sociopath; then the world is flat.

But why would the LA Times want to interview me? I'm quite boring in person.

What they should do is interview the families of the deceased gangsters so we can examine their patterns of denials and acceptance of violence.

— syscom3
June 12, 2010 at 11:37 a.m.

i think what hurts all of these idiots is that maybe they have always been punked by gangsters hahahaha. or maybe they just always wanted to be like them but werent with it. i dont see any other reason why they waste time coming back to the forum... you know what they say "if you talk about it its cuz you wanna be about it" hahahahhahahha

— caps
June 12, 2010 at 5:22 p.m.

To the Irony:

The family does not have to visit this site...If someone "tormenting" me be the writting on this blog I would not visit it. I would go about my merry world living a lie and liking it. You wrote to that we should go to a funeral of a gang banger to see the dead's living victims (his/her family) well I'll do just that as soon as a family member goes to the innocent victims of the dead and pays respect to them. Ask those family members to visit the disabled in the hospital, or pay a hospital bill or I know a innocent child was killed the other day while trying to flee the police...a gang banger killed a 6 year old child. Why not have that man's family pay for the funeral of that child? or better yet pay for his defense. No that won't happen. I really don't care if the gang bangers family is at his funeral hurting...until the family admits his mistakes...whole heartedly not just "Oh he made mistakes!" Talk about the understantment of the century. We all make mistakes but 95% of the society he lived in do NOT make the same mistake over and over and over again. So I guess the irony here is that the family hurts...because he made a mistake. And society will judge him for that. And with friends like Vicky coming on board we know where the heart of the mentality is. So let me know when the family pays money for thier mistakes and I will pay my respects by going to his funeral or at the very least contibuting a buck or two at the next car wash.

— Kelly
June 12, 2010 at 10:18 p.m.

why does all this have to be about fighting!!!!!! last time i checked this said share a memory okay so you guys have to be mature okay you guys its sad that you have to hear this from me because im only 12 years old and im more mature and respectful my dad didnt deserve to die the way he did becuase no one does and syscom3 i agree he was a ganster he did not play a good role in society but i also believe that he does deserve some respect for the rest of his childrens sake and also for my grandmother who is terribly sad.he was a respectful person.this has nothing to do with taxes and also im not just telling you syscom3 what wrong im also saying"vaneesa you cant promote this fight let syscom3 talk all the crap he wants im sure its not making his life better and its not affecting you vaneesa theres just people who get crapped talked on them and they want to get the most vulnerable people out there i bet syscom3 has been doing this for a while know but syscom3 i ask that you please stop these messeges and you know im sorry for the improperness of the people who have said bad about you consider that your apology.also chris my father was no moron he was as bright as can be he just made bad decisions he did not think them through he just did everything out of impulse as you once you join a gang you can not quit or you get beat up or even killed so i would really appreciate it if you dont call him a moron.thank you for your time
-Ricardo Molina J.r

— ricardo molina jr
June 13, 2010 at 10:28 p.m.

Please ppl get off this forum stop direspecting my husband.me.our children my stepson n our family...the deceased was a gang member who had changed his ways...its obvios you ppl have no lifes...you're too danm caught up in my husbands death...its a danm shame...well all die one day n god will have something to say to all of us...as for the children he left there isn't need for welfare when,I am eduacted and have a career and know how to work ....yes j.r I'll stop ....may u rest with god baby we all love you

— vanessa molina
June 14, 2010 at 11:16 p.m.

JR,

Well good for you. You seem to be nothing like your father...hopefully you will continue to live your life in a law abiding way and you will grow up to be a contiubuting member of society. Unfortunetly, we as children of people who make bad decisions suffer for those decisions. I'm speaking from experience. The circle of going back and forth is contibuted on by both sides. The crimes for which your father did will live on for many years, his choices will live on for many years. The saddest part of the back and forth is that you got caught up in it. As a 12 year old you should not have come on to this site to read this stuff however, as with me having lived a life style simular to yours you saw and experienced things that no child should have to. And by that I mean from the smallest of gang parties to the language that they use and the life style that you were exposed to. I am older then you now but I remember what it was like to spend time with my dad and his gang friends. The things I heard the stuff I experienced it was just bad. It seems like you are on your way to over coming all of that. Hopefully your biological mom has provided for you a stable home life or at the very least someone has for you seem to be a very understanding young man. I don't condone the life style your dad wanted...or my dad wanted but I over came that life inspite of my dad. There are other choices out there don't give up so easily to the gang life style no matter how important they make it seem. It is never ok to do what they do to other people and the crimes that they commit. Good luck.

— Jake
June 15, 2010 at 11:20 p.m.

its a shame that LOS ANGELES TIMES lets people like syscom3, citizenjohn and all these ignorants direspect people and their families. if you look into any murder in this forums there's always negative comments by this individuals. what does LOS ANGELES TIMES have to say about this??? and dont these idiots have anything better to do than to run thier mouths?

— Stanger
June 17, 2010 at 2:53 p.m.

— Stanger, I do not want anyone sanitizing the truth about many of these homicide victims when the deceased was a gangster or was associated with them.

There has been to much damage to society for them to be made out to be a good person when the opposite is true.

— syscom3
June 17, 2010 at 5:29 p.m.

SJP you are talking about Vicky, did you do a spell check before you posted your so-called educated put down on her post. I am so sick of the high and mighty writing on this blog about someone's education and then you turn around and leave a post that shows your LACK of education. You and the rest keep talking about how much of a burden the "Gangsters" are and how you pay taxes; you are not special because you pay taxes, everyone who works pays taxes and it is not because of gang violence that we pay taxes. You and Syscom3 and CitizenX should not even concern yourself with things going on in the "hood" as you call it, you live in your nice neighborhoods where your lawns are well maintained and there is no graffiti on any of the buildings; where you can look down on the "hood" and feel safe and well protected from the "gangsters" you fear. I mean we have gangs to contend with but we KNOW that they are gangsters and what they are capable of doing-you guy's on the other hand have child molesters and serial killers hidden amoung you, you are the type of people that are on the news saying "Nothing like this has ever happened here, this is a good neighborhood" all this as the police remove the dead bodies from the neighbors house. People in our neighborhoods are gangster and we all should be ashamed and apologize for their shortcomings? how bout that serial killer living next door, are you going to apologize for him????
You have plenty of negative responses and foul comments but none of you ever have a solid solution to stop the violence and destruction in the "hood". Oh yea, if you had a solution you would have no where to spread your venom because it would be no more homicide report for you to use as your outlet.

— Wizzard
June 21, 2010 at 1:49 p.m.

Wizzard-

I'll concern myself with anything I want, thanks. I am a citizen, I pay taxes, I vote, and ultimately I help support this trash that commits these crimes. I have absolutely every right to comment on it. No one said they're special because they pay taxes, but your comment on "everyone pays taxes if they have a job" shows your complete ignorance on the subject. Half of this country pays absolutely NO federal income taxes. I'd go on but it obviously would go over your head.

There are lots of solutions to these problems, but enablers and excuse makers like yourself don't want to hear them...and there's a whole set of politicians and other hangers-on that make lots of money and keep their power by keeping these killing zone neighborhoods and it's citizens in a victim-mentality. You can try and compare what goes on in your hood with serial killers, child molesters, etc....what a joke. Ever look at the stats of this blog? The facts don't back you up, sorry. As soon as people like you want to face up to reality, acknowledge the problems, stop blaming whitey, and quit thinking that gangsters are a normal part of society, then we can have a discussion about how to stop this BS. But after knowing, reading posts, and talking to many that think like you do, however, I'm beginning to believe maybe some people actually DON'T want it to change. Perhaps the sad truth of the matter is that people that think this is normal, excuse the behavior, and defend these morons don't deserve anything better. I'd like to think that everyone, white, black, hispanic, gay, straight, bi, alien, purple could all agree this is dysfunctional and evil, but after reading the many posts from people like you, maybe I'm mistaken.

— Chris
June 21, 2010 at 9:46 p.m.

Whoa Wizard - ONE "Z" not two - how did my name get dragged into this? I think you are confusing me with CitizenJOHN. Relax and realize I have said NADA about the deceased. But since you brought my name up, he reaped what he sowed. He was a banger and was caught slippin. Nothing more, nothing less. I dont have to speak on your homie because this is what happens when you bang. And please spare me with the "stay outta hood business" nonsense because I grew up in the hood and was a affiliate myself. Caught a few bullets in my younger days and spent a few summers in juvenile camps. Luckily I was smart enough to realize that life is for the birds and I joined the Coast Guard, signed up for the G.I Bill, went to college and graduated. Now I do live the good, productive life but I am realistic about what goes on in the "hood". Actually, I have some friends RIP here on this blog. So dont tell me I have no clue because I have been there, done that. The difference is I quit this mess when I was in my teen years. Instead of pointing the finger at me or anyone else, be a parent to your kids, sign em up for Boy Scouts or 4-H or some sports. Teach em to excel and not blame "the man." Get that "oh-me-oh-my" mentality out and plant something positive in their craniums...

— Citizen X
June 22, 2010 at 11:15 a.m.

— Wizzard, like I said, nothing happens in our neighborhoods.

Its an amazing leap of logic to equate a very rare serial murderer working the suburbs as compared to the daily carnage going on in a few neighborhoods.

As for solutions, Ive mentioned many of them. But ultimatly, the solution is for the people who live in the killing fields to get angry at the politicians who do nothing. Remember the do nothing blow hards every election day and vote them out of office untill change finally comes.

— syscom3
June 22, 2010 at 4:51 p.m.

To Citizenx-I did not mean you, obviously I meant CitizenJohn. In your anger you actually gave some good suggestions, they do not apply to my children because they are very productive,educated ,well behaved and NOT in a gang.In your anger you also proved the point so many of the family members who write here are trying to make. You changed your ways, you got out of that lifestyle and made something of yourself-some of the victims in the HR changed too & their loved one's have the right to say whatever they feel- if they say they were a good person or that they did not deserve this, why can't they say that with out someone saying " How could they be a good person and in a gang?" If it is possible for you to change why not someone else? According to syscom3- even if you have changed you still owe the world an apology and you will get what you deserve because there are no mistakes when you are a gang member.

— Wizzard
June 23, 2010 at 7:09 a.m.

Chris- I did not mention your name- are you SJP or CitizenJohn? I am not writing on this blog to discuss taxes and who does or does not pay them. I am well aware of the facts and there is not any proof that anything you say is above my head. I can spell Wizzard any way I choose to. I do not make excuses for nor do I support gang lifestyle, I don't blame anyone for the way the "hood" is. I, just like you have an opinion and I just feel like all this chatter and no solutions is a waste of time. I have never been in a gang and don't have a clue how to stop this madness, I, however, have been a victim of gang violence and have lost two loved ones from their animalistic ways. I just don't like how you generalize about the people living in the communities where gang violence is over taken it. Not every parent is in agreement with their child being in a gang, most try to discourage it, they move to another neighborhood, they do all they can to prevent their child from living that lifestyle.Some people are just weak and do not feel they have a choice, so they join a gang and it's a wrap for them. I never said I blame "whitey" whatever that is supposed to mean. Really, I don't even use that term. I blame the individuals who take part in the gang life, I blame all the so called "gang intervention programs" that have not done anything more than bring movies to the park , or take a few kids to Knott's Berry Farm and then they get a $10,000 dollar grant and say that they did something to deter the misguided youths. I blame some of the media who gleefully report the gang violence in the hood, who make it seem like it is the only thing going on in the community, only rarely do you see on the news how many kids DON'T gangbang, how they go to school and actually learn something, or how some neighborhood's do call the police and tell what they saw and who they saw.
So if you want to talk about politics, taxes, gun laws, civil rights, or any other topic I would love to debate with you on those subjects-just not here, this is not the appropriate forum for those conversations.

— Wizzard
June 23, 2010 at 7:44 a.m.

Wizzard- No, I'm not any of those people. I'm a person that basically feels the same way they and the vast majority of people do. Sorry if I made any false presumptions, but your initial post that I reacted to sounded a little different than your response to mine. I get tired of the whole moral equivalency argument that people try to bring up to take the focus off what's going on in the hood...you know, the whole, "yeah, we have drive-by's but you have child molesters" thing. It's ridiculous. There is an epidemic in minority neighborhoods across the country of violence, and to try and compare that to some child molesters is insane. Look at the stats on the HR blog and it's clear.

Anyway, what people like me and others get tired of seeing/reading is a complete lack of accountability by some in these neighborhoods....some have become so desensitized they think this is normal; some complain about it, but then turn around and cry police brutality, racism, etc whenever the police come around. And most sickening is that some of these same people will not and cannot bring themselves to condemn these moron gangsters that are responsible for this mess. Repeatedly, on any given gangster on here you'll find "only god can judge"..."he was a good man"...."y'all didn't know him"....blah. The bottom line is that for this madness to stop the first thing that needs to happen is that the communities that this is affecting need to wake up, demand accountability of themselves and their leaders, and quit making excuses for these thugs.

— Chris
June 23, 2010 at 11:39 a.m.

— Wizzard ..... dont put words in my mouth. I have always said that if a gangster changes his life around and becomes a productive citizen, or finishes a prison term, no apology is needed.

— syscom3
June 23, 2010 at 11:51 a.m.

100+ comments and not one critisizes how these low life suckers took this dudes life and who knows who else's. A problem within itself. Some of you people simply unfortunate retards.

— Aleks
June 24, 2010 at 1:44 a.m.

syscom3 u r a hypocrite!!because u talk crap n my husband was a changed man,did his time and was really educated....so why were u talking crap??u controtict yourself...

— vanessa
June 24, 2010 at 8:44 p.m.

Vanessa - I'm sorry for your loss. But understand, gangsters are gangsters because they're lazy and don't have the courage or intellegence to do anything else. When your afraid of what life may require of you in terms of hard work or you don't have the confidence to be able to represent yourself outside of your comfort zone..your"hood", Weak people fall in line with what's easy, what they know and will get them accepted. That's you dear. It's your deceased husband and every other banger you know. Sorry. Truth is painful. Your posts reflect your pain. BTW - people refer to education partly because it's hard to take people's opinion seriously when they're arguing a point and have fourth grade spelling skills. Really, it's important to know how to spell. Helps with the respect thing you mention. There's hope though, the young boy appears to "get it". Maybe you could learn from him.

— John
June 25, 2010 at 4 p.m.

The trouble with life in the fast lane is that you get to the other end in an awful hurry.

— Visions
June 27, 2010 at 6:03 p.m.

Syscom3, Did you lose a loved one to gang violence? Your postings are very negative. Please let families mourn the death of their loved ones in peace. Post somewhere else. If you really want to make a difference in helping at-risk youth, then please volunteer your time at a juvenile detention facility. Educate yourself and look up the definition of a "gang member."

— SEA
July 9, 2010 at 12:21 p.m.

— SEA, first of all, this is a public blog and I will continue to speak my mind as the editors of this blog see fit.

Second, I refuse to allow deceased gangsters to be made into saints when the truth of their violent and socipathic behavior should be told.

Third; It doesnt matter whether I was the victim of a violent crime or not. The fact is everyone in society is a victim of these crimes. It is our tax money that is wasted on these thugs and that enables me to speak my mind.

And what type of definition do you want for "gang member"? How about "murderer"? "how about "urban terrorist"? How about "loser"? How about "inmate"? How about "sociopath"?

— syscom3
July 9, 2010 at 2:12 p.m.

Syscom3 meets the definition of a "sociopath."
His victims are the family members of murder victims.
Syscom3 also meets the definition of a "troll"- a worthless contributor to the comment section.
His opinions and judgements are based on second-hand information about the deceased. Along with this 2nd hand information, he uses racism and anger to justify his views.

— Bobby
July 10, 2010 at 7:58 a.m.

Bobby, please provide specific examples of syscom being a racist. You can't, but I'll be waiting. People like you throw the race card around when you can't win the argument on facts. It's actually become quite comical to watch, and an easy indicator that you've got nothing.

— Chris
July 11, 2010 at 12:23 p.m.

am glad all u ignorant ppl.stoped the bs.May U Rest In Paradise Ricky.i always think of u n it would never b the same.ill always keep the good memories in my heart n memory.<3UR HOMEGIRL

— ur homegirl
Aug. 10, 2010 at 4:23 p.m.

— ur homegirl; just whom are you referring to as "ignorant"?

— syscom3
Aug. 10, 2010 at 8:52 p.m.

My cousin was in a gang, no one in my family will deny that. He did things that he shouldn't have, once again my famliy will not deny that but WE will defend him because he is a part of our family. He was trying to change, we could all see that. He didn't want anyone of us, the younger members of the family, to follow in his path. He was a gangester and quiet possible killed people but thats for us to deal with not you people

— Kat G.
Aug. 24, 2010 at 7:01 p.m.

Hey my boy still here missing you ,staying strong like always ,its not the same with out you but we try our best REST IN PEACE and I see you soon so we could dip it

— flacks
Jan. 30, 2011 at 11:59 a.m.

CitizenX - I'd like to hear your response to Wizzard. You were a gangmember that turned your life around, so why can't others turn their lives around too?? You ALL don't know the true story about this man. It's sad that these people posts these horrible comments, but when Ricardo Jr or Wizzard actually call them out, they have nothing to say. Not only do your ignorant comments show the type of person you are, but your silence speaks louder of it.

— SMH
Feb. 8, 2011 at 4:17 p.m.

@syscome: I have been reading the Homicide Report for a while now, and on almost every single homicide report of a person that looks like a gang member syscome has to put his two sense into it. So what if the person was a gangmember? If he was or not, he was a human being. Every single person in this earth makes mistakes, commit sins, hurt one another, whether through words or physically, every single person has cost tax payer their money. Yes, many gang members have done more things that has hurt other people, and cost tax payers alot of money. But my point is that now that he has deceased, he has pay for whatever blood he might of had in his hands, he is no longer with us, he will no longer be a menace to our society. At this point on it does not matter if the person has turned their life around, turned to God, or continue with his "gangster ways" so PLEASE stop making this family and many more family hurt by the harsh words that you say about their deceased loved ones. If you feel so strongly about how much gang members waste tax payers money go make a blog ,go to a chat room, say what you gotta say but dont say it to the hurting families and friends, right now is there time of grieve, please leave your harsh comments about their loved ones some where else. It was beautiful to read all the nice words, and memories of every single person that has lost someone and unfortunately are in the Homicide Report, and i trip out how some of their words could bring tears to my eyes without me even knowing that person. But when i read ur comments u start making my blood boil. Yes it may seem alot of the family members make the gang members look like lil angels. But to them they were. I have had the pleasure to known many gang members, although i know in the back of my head that they probably had killed, sold drugs, stab, rob, and ect..once you get to know them they are aweet, funny, smart, just like all this ppl say about this "gangsters" that has passed away. So dont tell them anything about how they should remember their loved ones cus in their eyes that is how they truly were, and you have no right at all to say otherwise. So please keep your rude, ignorant, harsh comments about Ricardo and many other deceased gang member to urself. & dont bring more pain to their loved ones.Unless you are going to tell them in person so they could beat the living s... out of u. If any one is a coward, it will be you. Hiding behing a computer when you could easily go to any neighborhood in Los Angeles and tell all this god dam gang members that waste soo much tax payers money what you gotta say, and what you think about them. But you wont, you decided to hide behind your computer. I know you are not worth any bodies time but your ignarance gets me mad. With that said and done, Rest in Peace Ricardo Molina and every single person that are in this Homicide Report. My condoloscent goes to all their family. May they rest in peace!

— JCHAVEZ
Feb. 8, 2011 at 4:53 p.m.

It's been almost a year since this young man has passed, and I'm quite sure his family is still grieving.

I don't understand why so many h.r users feel the need to post disrespectful comments about people who's lifestyles they disapproved of.

Only three people can judge these people: Their Maker, California Courts and the US Supreme courts....being that none of you people posting negative comments hold any of those positions it'd be wise to keep your judgments to yourself and find other ways of combating social issues like gang banging.

R.I.P Mr Molina...I hope you have finally found the peace that was absent from your earthly life.

— Turquoise
Feb. 13, 2011 at 1:25 a.m.

— Turquoise
... "I don't understand why so many h.r users feel the need to post disrespectful comments about people who's lifestyles they disapproved of."

So we are to commend the deceased for their choice in a lifestyle that got them killed and brought terror and violence ot the community? Not to mention the waste in resources and tax money this bankrupt state can no longer afford?

As for combatting social issues like gang banging; there's plenty of people on the HR that have decided their contribution will be to tell it to the faces of the friends and family of the deceased, "he shouldnt have had such a lifestyle and not only god can judge them".

— syscom3
Feb. 14, 2011 at noon

Syscom3 - why don't you respond to Ricardo Jr's comment to you?? I see you posting comments over and over about the same thing. You like to target grieving people, so why not respond to this boy. Maybe because you know he's right.....?? If you respond to my comment...you're truly a coward that's afraid of a lil boy. Like I said to Citizen X..not only do your comments reflect your ignorance but your silence speaks louder of it.

— SMH
Feb. 14, 2011 at 3:09 p.m.

Syscom3, California is not broke because of the resources utilize in investigating homicides in L.A. County. Most of our taxes go to Health Care for the uninsured, Welfare, Schools, and the list goes on and on. I get angry having my tax money going to big corporations like banks. I don't mind tax dollars going into homicides because most of the time it leads to arresting the suspects and getting them off the streets.

— Jag
Feb. 14, 2011 at 3:24 p.m.

everyday that passes i MISS YOU more!!! LOVE YOU BROTHER!!! <3

— Sandy<3
Feb. 17, 2011 at 4:45 p.m.

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