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Richard Dale, 54

Died April 19, 2008 at 1:52 a.m.

Richard Dale

Richard Dale, a 54-year-old white man, was killed in an officer-involved shooting Saturday, April 19. According to Torrance police spokesman Dave Crespin, officers responded to a complaint of loud music in the 2200 block of Torrance Boulevard in Torrance about 12: 45 a.m., but when they arrived the music had been turned off. 

A few minutes later, officers responded to a second complaint of loud music. According to Crespin, officers were making their way to an upstairs apartment when they were confronted by Dale, who allegedly pointed a handgun at them. Shots were fired and Dale was killed.

According to a coroner's report, Dale was shot multiple times in the chest. His time of death was listed as 1:52 a.m. by paramedics with the Torrance Fire Department. 

A handgun was recovered at the scene, police said. Police also recovered "numerous weapons and ammunition" inside Dale's home.

2266 Torrance Blvd.
 
 

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Updated: Jan. 24, 2010 at 9:46 p.m.

 
 

Five reader comments about Richard Dale

My father and I never really got along, though I can say he tried. He wasn't the most understanding of people and he did have a temper. However, these were simply overreactions to people doing him wrong. Hypothetically, if you shot his dog, he would burn your house down while you and your family weren't in it. He never wanted to hurt anybody. All he wanted was for you to learn that one's actions causes a reaction. Most of the times, in his case, an over reaction.

He did own guns, many guns actually. He was a gun connoisseur. He owned guns of all types. Pistols, rifles, black powder, guns that predated World War 2. All kinds of guns! I think this was his reasons for attempting to become a police officer. He wanted guns in his life at all times. The one thing he never did with a gun was point it at someone which he wasn't ready to fire at, and he never missed, ever.

He would not allow anyone to hurt or destroy those he loved and the things he loved. He was very smart and understood what actions he was taking. However, he was also a drunk, and at least as far as I understand, BEFORE he was diagnosed with diabetes. It was the reason why he divorced a wife that loved him. It was the reason why he blamed his child. So, it could have been the reason why he was killed. But, I doubt will never know the truth of what actually happened that night.. The Torrance Police Department have done nothing to console me. They have never even attempted to contact me. They don't want to answer my questions and simply tell me to read the official report. Without any remorse.

Frankly, I know he wasn't right in the head. However, I still want to know the truth. The vague answers and huge plot holes don't seem like any reason to kill someone with such aggressiveness. It only takes one well placed gun shot to kill someone. You don't need two fully emptied pistols to kill someone unless your not trained, at all, or you have a personal vendetta.

If my father did have a gun at the time the police were there and he did point it at them, then they did not follow the procedures of a trained officer when approaching him. Otherwise, he would have simply put his weapon down, or taken one of them with him.

The only reason I can see for him to be shot so many times was that he was being his arrogant self and mouthing off to police officers. However, he would have only done so without any weapon. I'm sure he would have mentioned his weapon, out of defiance, to show the police, whom rejected him, that he can protect himself. He understood what it meant to threaten a police officer. So, he wouldn't go outside “guns a blazin”. He wasn't a foolish criminal, he was just someone with anti-social behaviors. So, the police took it upon themselves to overreact.

If it was suicide, then why did he turn the music down in the first place. He would have wanted them to see him with a weapon. He would have made the first shots.

— My father's son
Sept. 22, 2010 at 2:34 a.m.

Now, I can't prove this. In fact, all of this is a speculation. However, it seems to fit better than the “official report”, especially considering resent stories of Torrance PD's other overreactions. A suicidal adolescent with a knife gets shot and killed THROUGH A DOOR. My friend's father was killed in his home for no reason. The Torrance PD manage to prove one. It's official popular belief to say that police officers aren't racist. Then what does NITAD mean? Why were the TPD not allowed to say this over their radios? N in Torrance after dark. I can assure you that N doesn't stand for nachos.

Why should I care? My father wasn't a “minority”. Let me ask a better question. So, why is it that police officers are still being backed by the public. They don't protect and serve anyone else but other police officers. They aren't trained to protect and serve a metropolitan area. In fact, they aren't even funded to do so. They are just there to serve as a public reminder that the government has the big private parts. They are there to simply be a thorn is the lion's foot. If lion is the public, who is the mouse, and why hasn't the mouse shown up in the story yet. Why does the mouse have to help the lion?

What will it take to make things better. Not for me, for everybody. Can't the government spend more of our tax dollars on things that will help the public, or is it that the government really only cares about taking it's private parts and cramming them where they don't belong? Sorta like what they did to my dad.

— My father's son
Sept. 22, 2010 at 2:35 a.m.

My father's son:

What? I have no idea what you were trying to write and I read this stuff a bunch of times and I still don't get it.

— SJP
Sept. 23, 2010 at 10:45 p.m.

His writings are probably his way of venting and/or grieving. Perhaps they aren't for you to understand. And really, reading them once was enough for me.

— Sherlock
Sept. 24, 2010 at 12:20 p.m.

Sherlock,

I disagree. From what I gather from reading the few lines I could decypher it seems to me that "my father's son" is writing about not having a relationship with is father? Them goes on and on to blame some one else or something else. The very last line of his second post "Sorta like they did to my dad." That sounds very much like someone on the verge of blaming the government for what his father did to him directly or not. These are the situations that we have to look for when taking into consideration the violence the people go to to remind the system of the wrong that they perceived to have had done to them. In other words "You did this to me and now I'm going to do this to you!!"

— SJP
Sept. 25, 2010 at 5:40 a.m.

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