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| Nov. 17, 20092009-11-17 | San Luis PotosiSan Luis Potosi | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Fixing Mexico police becomes a priority Reversing police corruption that has tainted whole departments, shattered faith in law enforcement and compromised one of society's most basic institutions is proving difficult, but not impossible. Fixing Mexico police becomes a priority |
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| Nov. 9, 20092009-11-09 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Women play growing role in Mexico's drug war Addiction, the economy and the lure of living well have sucked many into the narcotics underworld. The trend threatens the foundations of Mexican society. Women play growing role in Mexico's drug war |
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| Oct. 29, 20092009-10-29 | Mexico CityMexico City | Cecilia Sanchez, Tracy WilkinsonSanchez | StoryStory | Song banned, band pulls out Los Tigres del Norte are initially barred from playing their latest drug-trade lyrics. Song banned, band pulls out |
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| Oct. 28, 20092009-10-28 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Grim glossary of the narco-world Average words aren't sufficient for the over-the-top violence of Mexico's drug war, so new ones have been invented. Grim glossary of the narco-world |
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| Oct. 23, 20092009-10-23 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | In drug-trafficking hub, artist is in demand Between mansions for the living and mausoleums for the dead, there is work to be had in the Sinaloa capital for painter and sculptor Jose Espinoza, who says of his patrons: 'I don't probe.'In drug-trafficking hub, artist is in demand |
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| Oct. 17, 20092009-10-17 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Gruesome slayings add to Guerrero’s toll The mutilated corpses of nine people were found in plastic bags in the bed of a pickup, authorities said. The area where they were discovered is known for its drug trafficking. Gruesome slayings add to Guerrero’s toll |
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| Oct. 12, 20092009-10-12 | CuliacanCuliacan | Ken Ellingwood, Tracy WilkinsonEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico's 'narco-lawyers' risk everything One 'Bulletproof Lawyer' survived four assassination attempts before being gunned down. Such unsolved killings highlight the violence within a judicial system manipulated by powerful drug cartels. Mexico's 'narco-lawyers' risk everything |
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| Sept. 16, 20092009-09-16 | MexicaliMexicali | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | One Mexico border city is quiet, maybe too quiet Mexicali seems an oasis from violence, but some U.S. officials suspect that the peace comes at a high price.One Mexico border city is quiet, maybe too quiet |
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| Sept. 4, 20092009-09-04 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | 18 killed in Juarez clinic for addicts The systematic execution of clients in one of the many treatment centers for addicts that have sprouted in Ciudad Juarez suggests smuggling gangs may be fighting over local markets.18 killed in Juarez clinic for addicts |
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| Aug. 31, 20092009-08-31 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | 8 killed at street party in Mexico Four gunmen leap from a pickup truck and fire semiautomatic weapons at the revelers in the town of Navolato in Sinaloa state. The shooters escape. 8 killed at street party in Mexico |
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| Aug. 23, 20092009-08-23 | Mexico CityMexico City | Richard Marosi, Tracy WilkinsonMarosi | StoryStory | Mexico shifts tactics in the drug battle Allowing possession of small amounts frees resources for fighting cartels and traffickers, the government says. Mexico shifts tactics in the drug battle |
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| Aug. 22, 20092009-08-22 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Actually, violence is down--so say the numbers The attorney general points to statistics that indicate homicides have declined in the last 15 years. Critics dismiss his argument as so much spin. Actually, violence is down--so say the numbers |
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| Aug. 14, 20092009-08-14 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | 17 charged in string of brutal kidnappings and slayings in San Diego suburbs n a spillover of Tijuana violence, Mexican gang members posing as U.S. law enforcement personnel abducted and killed 9 victims.17 charged in string of brutal kidnappings and slayings in San Diego suburbs |
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| July 30, 20092009-07-30 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Police figures slain in separate attacks An investigator and a commander and his family are killed at their homes as drug crackdown continues.Police figures slain in separate attacks |
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| July 21, 20092009-07-21 | WashingtonWashington | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | U.S. indictments target Mexico's Gulf cartels Gulf cartel and a brutal mercenary group are targeted in an effort that could lead to the seizure of U.S.-held assets.U.S. indictments target Mexico's Gulf cartels |
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| July 18, 20092009-07-18 | SonoraSonora | Sacha FeinmanFeinman | StoryStory | Drug cartels imperil immigrants Tighter border enforcement has driven narcotics smugglers to share territory with migrants, adding to the dangers of the journey and possibly contributing to a drop in immigration. Drug cartels imperil immigrants |
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| July 17, 20092009-07-17 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Forces hiked to counter drug gang Mexico is to deploy 5,500 security personnel to the western state of Michoacan, where a series of recent attacks has killed 16 police officers. The La Familia drug gang is suspected in the slayings. Forces hiked to counter drug gang |
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| July 16, 20092009-07-16 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Politician is tied to gang targeting police Congressman-elect Julio Cesar Godoy is suspected of helping protect the La Familia cartel, accused of killing 16 officers in recent days. That has brought pressure on his sibling, Michoacan Gov. Leonel Godoy.Politician is tied to gang targeting police |
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| July 15, 20092009-07-15 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | 12 slain in Michoacan were federal police officers The attack continues a spree in Michoacan by the La Familia drug cartel, officials say. 12 slain in Michoacan were federal police officers |
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| July 13, 20092009-07-13 | Ciudad JuarezCiudad Juarez | Ken Ellingwood, Tracy WilkinsonEllingwood | StoryStory | Drug offensive stirs ‘wasps nest’ The 2 1/2-year offensive has uncovered deep corruption and sparked violent gang wars, presenting a stark reality: The longer and harder the war is fought, the more complex and daunting it becomes.Drug offensive stirs ‘wasps nest’ |
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| July 10, 20092009-07-10 | York, MaineYork, Maine | Scott KraftKraft | StoryStory | Small-town cops in coastal Maine face a big problem A heroin overdose leads detectives to unravel a growing addiction problem in small New England towns. Maine is now on the drug mainline from Mexico.Small-town cops in coastal Maine face a big problem |
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| July 9, 20092009-07-09 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Protest leader, relative shot to death in Mexico The attack on Benjamin LeBaron, a U.S. citizen, and his brother-in-law bore the signs of an organized-crime hit. LeBaron had led a demonstration in May against kidnapping.Protest leader, relative shot to death in Mexico |
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| July 3, 20092009-07-03 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Paul Pringe, Richard WintonPringe | StoryStory | Bentley driver's slaying in L.A. might have cartel link The wild pursuit that ended on the 101 freeway may have been the result of a rivalry between alleged members of the Arellano Felix drug-smuggling organization, according to an affidavit obtained by the Times. Bentley driver's slaying in L.A. might have cartel link |
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| June 30, 20092009-06-30 | AbbotsfordAbbotsford | Kim MurphyMurphy | StoryStory | Drug war on another border: Canada Pressure on the U.S.-Mexico border makes the Vancouver, Canada market all the more lucrative and dangerous as narcotics traffickers battle for market share. Drug war on another border: Canada |
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| June 27, 20092009-06-27 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | At least 12 die in Mexico shootout The deadly clash in the state of Guanajuato is said to have occurred when security forces sought to search a home. Elsewhere, in the state of Sonora, a congressional candidate escapes assassination.At least 12 die in Mexico shootout |
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| June 21, 20092009-06-21 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | A quiet move to decriminalize minor drug use President Calderon, who wants to focus on trafficking, is set to sign the law decriminalizing minor drug use. But critics say letting off users caught with limited amounts of cocaine or other substances will increase use and encourage 'drug tourists' from the U.S.A quiet move to decriminalize minor drug use |
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| June 19, 20092009-06-19 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | Designated immigration agents authorized to participate in drug enforcement Homeland Security and Justice departments repair schism with an accord to interchange staff and better share information.Designated immigration agents authorized to participate in drug enforcement |
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| June 12, 20092009-06-12 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | Gun flow south is a crisis for two nations The U.S. government lacks a coordinated strategy to combat the flow of arms into Mexico, where 90% of the seized weapons that can be traced are linked to U.S. sales, watchdog report says.Gun flow south is a crisis for two nations |
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| June 9, 20092009-06-09 | San DiegoSan Diego | Tony PerryPerry | StoryStory | Mexican national arrested trying to smuggle marijuana ashore on a surfboard Suspect tosses duffel bag as authorities approach, but the bag washes ashore at Imperial Beach. Officials say it contained 24 pounds of marijuana with a street value of about $74,400.Mexican national arrested trying to smuggle marijuana ashore on a surfboard |
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| June 8, 20092009-06-08 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Acapulco shootout leaves 18 dead The hours-long battle that killed two soldiers and 16 gunmen took place several miles from the main strip of tourist complexes.Acapulco shootout leaves 18 dead |
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| June 7, 20092009-06-07 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | At least 18 killed in shootout in Acapulco An hours-long gun battle erupts when government troops approach a home in a beachfront neighborhood of the Mexican resort. No tourists are reported hurt.At least 18 killed in shootout in Acapulco |
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| June 4, 20092009-06-04 | AmatitlanAmatitlan | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Drug violence spilling into Guatemala Mexican drug gangs under pressure at home are moving operations to Guatemala, whose proximity, weak law enforcement and deep-rooted corruption provide fertile ground, officials and analysts say. By Ken Ellingwood Drug violence spilling into Guatemala |
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| June 4, 20092009-06-04 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | 47 police officers questioned in disappearance of Mexican customs official The customs administrator in Veracruz has not been seen since an apparent traffic collision Monday night. On a security video, several police cars are seen arriving at the scene of the crash.47 police officers questioned in disappearance of Mexican customs official |
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| May 31, 20092009-05-31 | PatzcuaroPatzcuaro | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Mexico drug traffickers corrupt politics The cult-like La Familia Michoacana has contaminated city halls across one state, federal officials say. It sometimes decides who runs and who doesn't, who lives and who dies. Mexico drug traffickers corrupt politics |
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| May 28, 20092009-05-28 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Detention of local officials marks shift in anti-drug efforts Calderon had been focused on a military offensive targeting drug figures and corrupt police. Now officials are being questioned to see how far the cartels have penetrated 'local political elites.' Detention of local officials marks shift in anti-drug efforts |
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| May 27, 20092009-05-27 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | 10 mayors, other Mexico officials detained The sweep targets local officials in the state of Michoacan, home to La Familia, a fast-growing group of drug traffickers.10 mayors, other Mexico officials detained |
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| May 21, 20092009-05-21 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Mexico senator takes leave amid scandal Senator Ricardo Monreal of Zacatecas steps down temporarily to clear his name after an official acknowledges an investigation into a family property where tons of marijuana were found. Mexico senator takes leave amid scandal |
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| May 21, 20092009-05-21 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Mexico jail break video shows "inside job" Reforma newspaper publishes surveillance video showing guards apparently helping drug suspects escape from a prison in Zacatecas state.Mexico jail break video shows "inside job" |
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| May 20, 20092009-05-20 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Reputed up-and-coming cartel figure held Rodolfo Lopez Ibarra and 12 other people with him are seized by soldiers when he steps from a plane in Monterrey, where he allegedly was assigned to take over cartel operations. Reputed up-and-coming cartel figure held |
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| May 18, 20092009-05-18 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Mexico sees inside job in prison break An armada of 17 vehicles, backed by a helicopter, sweeps down on a prison holding drug convicts. The warden and two top guards are arrested and another 40 are questioned in what authorities say was an "inside job." Mexico sees inside job in prison break |
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| May 15, 20092009-05-15 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | 4 Southern California residents slain in Tijuana The bodies of two men and two women, bearing 'signs of violence,' were found over the weekend in a car. The circumstances are being investigated.4 Southern California residents slain in Tijuana |
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| May 12, 20092009-05-12 | Antelope Wells, New MexicoAntelope Wells, New Mexico | Scott KraftKraft | StoryStory | Pursuing smugglers, border agents become trackers New fencing and high-tech devices make it difficult for drug traffickers to cross the border. So smugglers hoist packs and take to the desert on foot. Agents use century-old tracking skills to follow.Pursuing smugglers, border agents become trackers |
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| May 11, 20092009-05-11 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | A trip to Mexico's museum of drugs Mexico displays confiscated guns and gadgets from its struggles against narcotics traffickers. Just don't call it the Narcomuseum.A trip to Mexico's museum of drugs |
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| May 6, 20092009-05-06 | ArizonaArizona | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | Sinaloa cartel may resort to deadly force in U.S. Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Mexico's most wanted man, reportedly meets with his lieutenants near the Mexico-Arizona border and tells them to meet force with force north of the border. Sinaloa cartel may resort to deadly force in U.S. |
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| April 30, 20092009-04-30 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Army needs oversight, Human Rights Watch says Report lists 17 allegations of serious human rights abuse by the Mexican army, including torture and murder.Army needs oversight, Human Rights Watch says |
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| April 29, 20092009-04-29 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | 7 police officers die in Tijuana attacks The bold assaults by heavily armed gunmen are said to have been aimed at intimidating the force. 7 police officers die in Tijuana attacks |
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| April 21, 20092009-04-21 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Drug cartels keep Catholic officials in fear In one case, Archbishop Hector Gonzalez calls attention to a drug trafficker in his neighborhood and accuses the government of ignoring the situation. The prelate later apologizes for his comments.Drug cartels keep Catholic officials in fear |
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| April 18, 20092009-04-18 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | General battles Tijuana drug traffickers General Alfonso Duarte Mugica is held up as a model in the army effort to stem drug violence and take on the cartels. He says there’s nothing personal in his hunt for one of Mexico’s most wanted. General battles Tijuana drug traffickers |
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| April 15, 20092009-04-15 | Ixtapan de la SalIxtapan de la Sal | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mayors on front line of the drug war Mayors say they are the ones personally confronting the toll of drug violence on the streets. Yet they lack any meaningful role in the federal government's battle against organized crime.Mayors on front line of the drug war |
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| April 3, 20092009-04-03 | Rio Grande City, TexasRio Grande City, Texas | Scott KraftKraft | StoryStory | On the borderline of good and bad Starr County, Texas had two consecutive sheriffs tied to drug trafficking from neighboring Mexico. The county finds itself wedged between a relentless supply of drugs to the south, and an insatiable appetite for them to the north.On the borderline of good and bad |
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| April 3, 20092009-04-03 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico arrests suspected No. 2 in Juarez drug cartel Vicente Carrillo Leyva, son of the late kingpin Amado Carrillo Fuentes, is arrested in Mexico City. His capture comes as top U.S. law enforcement officials meet in Cuernavaca.Mexico arrests suspected No. 2 in Juarez drug cartel |
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| April 2, 20092009-04-02 | San DiegoSan Diego | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Napolitano promises more agents at San Diego-area checkpoints The homeland security secretary visits the Southwest border for the first time since the Obama administration announced a new anti-smuggling strategy.Napolitano promises more agents at San Diego-area checkpoints |
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| March 31, 20092009-03-31 | El PasoEl Paso | Sam QuinonesQuinones | StoryStory | Senators hear testimony on border danger John Kerry and others on the Foreign Relations Committee are told Mexico is not in danger of becoming a failed state.Senators hear testimony on border danger |
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| March 27, 20092009-03-27 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Hillary Clinton wraps up Mexico visit, calls drug violence 'intolerable' The secretary of State tours a high-tech police facility in Mexico City and meets with university students in Monterrey. Hillary Clinton wraps up Mexico visit, calls drug violence 'intolerable' |
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| March 26, 20092009-03-26 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, Clinton says A voracious appetite for illegal narcotics and liberal gun-sale rules are funding and arming smugglers locked in a drug war south of the border, the secretary of state says on her first visit to Mexico.U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, Clinton says |
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| March 25, 20092009-03-25 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | White House unveils plan to fight border drug cartels The $700-million multi-agency plan targets drug and human trafficking and money laundering and aims to curb spillover of violence from Mexico onto the U.S. side of the border.White House unveils plan to fight border drug cartels |
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| March 25, 20092009-03-25 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Sam QuinonesQuinones | StoryStory | Family members allegedly ran heroin smuggling ring An extended family of immigrants from Oaxaca is charged with running a heroin empire that relied on an obscure indigenous language and transactions in public places.Family members allegedly ran heroin smuggling ring |
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| March 24, 20092009-03-24 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico offers $2-million rewards for top drug suspects The rewards are for information leading to the capture of the 24 most-wanted, including Joaquin 'Shorty' Guzman and Ismael Zambada, leaders of the so-called Sinaloa cartel. Mexico offers $2-million rewards for top drug suspects |
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| March 22, 20092009-03-22 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | Drug cartels raise the stakes on human smuggling Drug-smuggling gangs appear to be muscling in on the brisk business of smuggling illegal immigrants across the U.S. border.Drug cartels raise the stakes on human smuggling |
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| March 21, 20092009-03-21 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Abuse allegations rise against army Since President Calderon’s deployment of troops in the war against drug trafficking, allegations of illegal searches and arrests, rape and torture have risen, rights groups say. Abuse allegations rise against army |
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| March 20, 20092009-03-20 | TijuanaTijuana | Sam QuinonesQuinones | StoryStory | In Tijuana, opera offers a refuge from violence On the streets, drug smugglers and gangs are fighting a war. But inside a modest cafe, the drama is make-believe and accompanied by sweet music.In Tijuana, opera offers a refuge from violence |
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| March 20, 20092009-03-20 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexican drug figure's son is arrested Vicente Zambada is arrested in a posh area of Mexico City. He is the son of Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada, a suspected drug kingpin in Sinaloa who is said to be an expert on opium cultivation and heroin smuggling.Mexican drug figure's son is arrested |
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| March 19, 20092009-03-19 | San DiegoSan Diego | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | U.S. sues Union Pacific over cross-border drug trafficking Federal officials say Union Pacific failed to keep smugglers off its trains, but railroad casts blame on its Mexican affiliate.U.S. sues Union Pacific over cross-border drug trafficking |
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| March 18, 20092009-03-18 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, senators say Decades of drug use in the U.S. and the smuggling of guns and money into Mexico have fueld that nation's spiraling violence, witnesses tell Congress.U.S. shares blame for Mexico drug violence, senators say |
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| March 17, 20092009-03-17 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Killing of Tijuana pizzeria owner leaves family, Mexican authorities at odds George Norman Harrison, a San Diego County native, was found decapitated. Authorities consider his death drug-related; his family disagrees. Killing of Tijuana pizzeria owner leaves family, Mexican authorities at odds |
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| March 15, 20092009-03-15 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken Ellingwood, Tracy WilkinsonEllingwood | StoryStory | Drug cartels' new weaponry means war Narcotics traffickers are acquiring firepower more appropriate to an army -- including grenade launchers and anti-tank rockets -- and the police are feeling outgunned.Drug cartels' new weaponry means war |
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| March 13, 20092009-03-13 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | The barrio gets behind the cartels The Gulf cartel showed its pull in the impoverished neighborhoods around Mexico's richest city, calling them to the streets. Protests spread to border and port cities.The barrio gets behind the cartels |
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| March 13, 20092009-03-13 | WashingtonWashington | Associated Press, Times staffPress | StoryStory | U.S. may deploy troops if Mexico border violence escalates Homeland Security official tells Congress that National Guard may be needed if security deteriorates at U.S.-Mexico border, a day after President Obama makes a similar suggestion about drug-related violence.U.S. may deploy troops if Mexico border violence escalates |
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| March 10, 20092009-03-10 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Dozens arrested in Tijuana raid A major army-led operation targets organized crime.Dozens arrested in Tijuana raid |
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| March 9, 20092009-03-09 | Rosarito BeachRosarito Beach | Christopher ReynoldsReynolds | StoryStory | Rosarito Beach regulars won't stay away despite Mexico's drug war U.S. tourists who enjoy escaping to this seaside city are continuing to do so despite the recent travel warnings. 'Drug people are fighting the drug people,' goes the thinking. Rosarito Beach regulars won't stay away despite Mexico's drug war |
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| March 7, 20092009-03-07 | San DiegoSan Diego | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | U.S. citizen beheaded in apparent drug hit A former Chula Vista resident is identified as one of three men who were found decapitated this week in Tijuana.U.S. citizen beheaded in apparent drug hit |
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| March 6, 20092009-03-06 | CancunCancun | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Tourists weigh Mexico drug violence Mexico's rampant drug violence has put the issue of safety front and center for would-be vacationers, and put the country's publicity-sensitive tourism promoters on the defensive.Tourists weigh Mexico drug violence |
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| March 5, 20092009-03-05 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | 20 killed in riot at Ciudad Juarez prison It takes forces nearly three hours to contain the gang unrest. Bodies are reportedly thrown from windows. 20 killed in riot at Ciudad Juarez prison |
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| March 4, 20092009-03-04 | TexasTexas | Andrew Becker, Patrick J. McDonnellBecker | StoryStory | Mexico's drug war creates new class of refugees Business owners, law enforcement officers, journalists and other professionals are among those seeking asylum in the U.S. -- even when it means sitting in jail.Mexico's drug war creates new class of refugees |
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| March 3, 20092009-03-03 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico sending more forces to Ciudad Juarez As violence spirals, Mexico dispatches another 1,000 federal police to the border city of Juarez, where 2,000 additional soldiers arrived earlier this week. More than 1,600 people died last year in drug-related violence in the city, across the border from El Paso, Texas.Mexico sending more forces to Ciudad Juarez |
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| March 3, 20092009-03-03 | San DiegoSan Diego | Associated PressPress | StoryStory | Warning issued on Mexico trips The Justice Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has taken the unusual step of urging college students to avoid parts of northern Mexico during spring break. Warning issued on Mexico trips |
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| March 2, 20092009-03-02 | CancunCancun | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Killings uncover seamier side of Cancun The killing of a newly-hired security official, Gen. Mauro Enrique Tello, and two others raises questions about the drug trade's impact on the popular resort, especially with suspicions falling on then-police chief, Francisco Velasco. Killings uncover seamier side of Cancun |
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| Feb. 26, 20092009-02-26 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico to send up to 5,000 more troops to Ciudad Juarez The increase would triple the law enforcement presence in the border city, which has been racked by drug violence. Its police chief quit recently and its mayor has received threats.Mexico to send up to 5,000 more troops to Ciudad Juarez |
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| Feb. 25, 20092009-02-25 | VillanuevaVillanueva | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Town fed up with violence turns to army In the state of Zacatecas, residents of Villanueva demanded that the military take over. The soldiers came, but drug war violence got worse.Town fed up with violence turns to army |
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| Feb. 25, 20092009-02-25 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | Hundreds arrested in U.S. probe of Mexican drug cartel Fifty arrests in California and elsewhere are the latest among 730 targeting the Sinaloa cartel in a 21-month crackdown.Hundreds arrested in U.S. probe of Mexican drug cartel |
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| Feb. 23, 20092009-02-23 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Governor of Mexico's Chihuahua state downplays attack Gov. Jose Reyes Baeza Terrazas says gunmen who fired on his convoy weren't aiming at him.Governor of Mexico's Chihuahua state downplays attack |
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| Feb. 21, 20092009-02-21 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Ciudad Juarez police chief quits after killings of officers, threats Posted signs say a policeman would be killed every 48 hours unless Roberto Orduña Cruz resigned.Ciudad Juarez police chief quits after killings of officers, threats |
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| Feb. 19, 20092009-02-19 | New MexicoNew Mexico | Scott KraftKraft | StoryStory | Border drug war is too close for comfort A quaint but quirky border town in New Mexico casts a wary glance at its neighbor over the border, fretting over whether drug-related violence will cross over to its streets.Border drug war is too close for comfort |
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| Feb. 16, 20092009-02-16 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Gunmen kill police officer, 10 relatives in Tabasco Gunmen hit the homes of Carlos Reyes Lopez and his extended family; a 2-year-old nephew and five other children are among the dead. Reyes Lopez was a member of an elite agency tackling police corruption. Gunmen kill police officer, 10 relatives in Tabasco |
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| Feb. 12, 20092009-02-12 | PhoenixPhoenix | Sam QuinonesQuinones | StoryStory | Phoenix, kidnap-for-ransom capital Juan Francisco Perez-Torres was abducted last month in front of his home and ransom demanded. Hundreds of such incidents occur each year in Phoenix, and Mexican drug-smuggling is usually involved.Phoenix, kidnap-for-ransom capital |
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| Feb. 8, 20092009-02-08 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Families want answers from man who says he dissolved 300 people Santiago Meza Lopez, known as El Pozolero (the Stew Maker), says he stuffed bodies into barrels of lye for drug cartels. He may be a good source of information about missing loved ones.Families want answers from man who says he dissolved 300 people |
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| Feb. 6, 20092009-02-06 | ChihuahuaChihuahua | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Openness is the new order in the courts Closed-door, written trials give way to U.S.-style proceedings in Chihuahua state. The overhaul could help fight corruption and organized crime, analysts say.Openness is the new order in the courts |
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| Feb. 4, 20092009-02-04 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Ex-general, 2 others found shot to death near Cancun Mauro Enrique Tello is one of the highest-ranking officials to be killed in the lawlessness fueled by drug trafficking and other gang crime. Elsewhere in Mexico, 14 people are reported killed. Ex-general, 2 others found shot to death near Cancun |
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| Jan. 29, 20092009-01-29 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Mexico drug bosses may have set truce According to news reports, trafficking chiefs in the state of Sinaloa agreed last month to curb their bloody rivalry. Killings there have declined sharply.Mexico drug bosses may have set truce |
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| Jan. 25, 20092009-01-25 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Calderon seeks to dispel talk of 'failing state' Two recent U.S. reports paint a dire picture of Mexico as its battle against drug crime grows more bloody, but Mexican officials say that though some cities are in trouble, the state itself is strong.Calderon seeks to dispel talk of 'failing state' |
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| Jan. 24, 20092009-01-24 | San DiegoSan Diego | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Mexico army nabs vats-of-lye suspect The man arrested in Baja California is said to have dissolved hundreds of bodies as part of Tijuana's drug turf war.Mexico army nabs vats-of-lye suspect |
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| Jan. 17, 20092009-01-17 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Evelyn LarrubiaLarrubia | StoryStory | Parents' quest helps identify remains in barrel The LaPortes’ search for their son ends when Mexican officials confirm the remains found in Rosarito are of their son Daniel. They also learn that he was apparently smuggling marijuana.Parents' quest helps identify remains in barrel |
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| Jan. 15, 20092009-01-15 | Mexico CityMexico City | Denise DresserDresser | StoryStory | Reality check for U.S.-Mexico relations Calderon must face facts in Mexico, and Obama may find the drug war a tough foreign policy issue.Reality check for U.S.-Mexico relations |
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| Jan. 13, 20092009-01-13 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Vatican suggests excommunicating Mexican drug traffickers Vatican's second-ranking official suggests severe penalty for drug thugs responsible for thousands of deaths in Mexico.Vatican suggests excommunicating Mexican drug traffickers |
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| Jan. 13, 20092009-01-13 | WashingtonWashington | Ken Ellingwood, Frank JamesEllingwood | StoryStory | Obama, Calderon meet in Washington Cooperation in drug war on agenda as Mexican president meets president-elect.Obama, Calderon meet in Washington |
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| Jan. 8, 20092009-01-08 | Mexico CityMexico City | Associated PressPress | StoryStory | More U.S. funds freed for Mexico's drug fight Washington releases an additional $99 million as part of an aid package to help security forces in their battle with drug cartels. More U.S. funds freed for Mexico's drug fight |
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| Jan. 8, 20092009-01-08 | Mexico CityMexico City | Reuters WireWire | StoryStory | Mexico arrests a founder of “Zetas” drug hitmen Mexico has captured one of the founders of the Gulf drug cartel's brutal "Zetas" squad of hitmen that is behind much of the country's bloodshed, the attorney general's office said.Mexico arrests a founder of “Zetas” drug hitmen |
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| Jan. 2, 20092009-01-02 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Paul PringlePringle | StoryStory | Drug arrests mystify Covina neighborhood After two Mexican federal agents and two others were arrested in July on drug-related charges, little has emerged about the case and residents are puzzled.Drug arrests mystify Covina neighborhood |
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| Dec. 31, 20082008-12-31 | WashingtonWashington | Josh MeyerMeyer | StoryStory | Mistrust bedevils war on Mexican drug cartels The U.S. and Mexico agree that cartels have morphed into crime syndicates that pose an urgent security threat to the region. But working together has not been easy.Mistrust bedevils war on Mexican drug cartels |
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| Dec. 30, 20082008-12-30 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Times staffstaff | StoryStory | Strategies for Mexico's drug war Experts and public figures in the U.S. and Latin America offer a range of views, from stepped-up policing to legalization.Strategies for Mexico's drug war |
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| Dec. 28, 20082008-12-28 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | In Sinaloa, the drug trade has infiltrated 'every corner of life' 'Narcos' have made their way into government, business and culture in this Pacific state, where kids want to grow up to be traffickers.In Sinaloa, the drug trade has infiltrated 'every corner of life' |
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| Dec. 24, 20082008-12-24 | GuadalajaraGuadalajara | Associated PressPress | StoryStory | Mexican beauty queen arrested with suspected drug gang members, guns and bullets Miss Sinaloa arrested in Zapopan, outside city of Guadalajara, in Jalisco state.Mexican beauty queen arrested with suspected drug gang members, guns and bullets |
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| Dec. 22, 20082008-12-22 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Remains of 9 decapitated men found in Mexico The heads and bodies were found at separate places in the state of Guerrero, a hot spot in the country's drug war. Local media say the victims may be Mexican soldiers.Remains of 9 decapitated men found in Mexico |
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| Dec. 22, 20082008-12-22 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Drug crackdown has little effect on money laundering The network of money laundering in Mexico reaches from banks and exchange houses in the capital to a small soccer team in the western state of Michoacan. Drug crackdown has little effect on money laundering |
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| Dec. 19, 20082008-12-19 | Ciudad JuarezCiudad Juarez | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Drug violence puts Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, on edge In a harrowing three-day visit, a reporter finds the social fabric badly frayed in Ciudad Juarez, a border city that has suffered the worst of the drug-related violence in Mexico.Drug violence puts Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, on edge |
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| Dec. 18, 20082008-12-18 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Mystery man blamed for gruesome Tijuana deaths Teodoro Garcia Simental is the best known but least identifiable suspects believed to be responsible for Tijuana's raging drug violence. His name alone inspires silence.Mystery man blamed for gruesome Tijuana deaths |
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| Dec. 16, 20082008-12-16 | San DiegoSan Diego | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Less cocaine on U.S. streets, report says. Mexican trafficking organizations are expanding their control, but interdiction efforts have affected flow.Less cocaine on U.S. streets, report says. |
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| Dec. 9, 20082008-12-09 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Death toll in Mexico's drug war surges Attorney General Eduardo Medina Mora says 5,376 people have been killed so far in 2008, more than twice the toll for the first 11 months of 2007.Death toll in Mexico's drug war surges |
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| Dec. 9, 20082008-12-09 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Corruption hurting Mexico's fight against crime, Calderon says Mexican President Felipe Calderon says his government has made strides in combating graft. But police corruption remains a big problem in the battle against drug trafficking.Corruption hurting Mexico's fight against crime, Calderon says |
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| Dec. 7, 20082008-12-07 | MonterreyMonterrey | Sam QuinonesQuinones | StoryStory | 23 seconds of the Mexican drug war When four people in a jewelry store were killed by gunmen who took nothing, few doubted it was a message sent in the drug war.23 seconds of the Mexican drug war |
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| Dec. 5, 20082008-12-05 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Some in Mexico want the death penalty reinstated The increase in slayings and kidnappings related to the nation's war on drug traffickers has created a climate of fear. Legal experts see too many obstacles to restoring capital punishment.Some in Mexico want the death penalty reinstated |
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| Dec. 5, 20082008-12-05 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Raoul RanoaRanoa | Interactive GraphicInteractive Graphic | Moments before eternity The slayings of a Mexican police officer, his wife and two others occurred in Monterrey's busy business district.Moments before eternity |
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| Dec. 4, 20082008-12-04 | Ciudad JuarezCiudad Juarez | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Schools become latest targets in violence-plagued Ciudad Juarez Anonymous threats warn of unspecified harm if teachers don't hand over their year-end bonuses.Schools become latest targets in violence-plagued Ciudad Juarez |
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| Dec. 2, 20082008-12-02 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Tijuana drug violence unabated Despite a recent military offensive, at least 38 people have been killed in the city's drug wars since Saturday, nine of them decapitated.Tijuana drug violence unabated |
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| Nov. 30, 20082008-11-30 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico drug suspects extradited at record pace The new posture on extradition signals President Felipe Calderon's determination to combat violent smuggling groups through closer collaboration with U.S. authorities, officials and analysts say.Mexico drug suspects extradited at record pace |
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| Nov. 27, 20082008-11-27 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | U.S. war on drugs has failed, report says Former Mexican president Ernesto Zedillo calls for a U.S. effort to curb consumption and halt arms trafficking. U.S. war on drugs has failed, report says |
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| Nov. 22, 20082008-11-22 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico traffickers bribed former anti-drug chief, officials say Noe Ramirez Mandujano, a prosecutor who resigned as head of the SIEDO organized crime unit in July, is arrested on suspicion of passing intelligence to Sinaloa drug gangsters.Mexico traffickers bribed former anti-drug chief, officials say |
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| Nov. 21, 20082008-11-21 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Another bloody night in Sinaloa, Mexico Five federal and state police agents are killed in an ambush in Culiacan as drug gangs try to fight off a government crackdown. The day's toll is 10.Another bloody night in Sinaloa, Mexico |
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| Nov. 19, 20082008-11-19 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | 500 police officers replaced in Tijuana Mexican federal agents and army troops are dispatched in a bid to rid the Tijuana police department of cops suspected of having links to drug traffickers.500 police officers replaced in Tijuana |
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| Nov. 16, 20082008-11-16 | AtlantaAtlanta | Sam Quinones, Richard SerranoQuinones | StoryStory | Mexico drug wars spill across the border Few regions of the U.S. are immune to drug-trafficking organizations that have left a trail of death, kidnappings and other crimes.Mexico drug wars spill across the border |
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| Nov. 12, 20082008-11-12 | Rosarito BeachRosarito Beach | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Rosarito Beach losing tourists to crime fears The mayor still pushes his seaside city as a cut-rate paradise. 'Tourists are not targeted,' he says. But violence linked to the drug war has made it a harder sell.Rosarito Beach losing tourists to crime fears |
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| Nov. 7, 20082008-11-07 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Citizen suspicion surrounds Mexico plane crash A citizenry wearied by drug violence appears unwilling to rule out foul play in the crash that killed Mexico's interior minister, a former top anti-drug official and 12 others.Citizen suspicion surrounds Mexico plane crash |
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| Nov. 4, 20082008-11-04 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Two top state police officers slain in Mexico One of the killings occurs in Mexico state, where 12 officers have been killed in five days, apparently by gangs seeking a foothold in areas near the capital.Two top state police officers slain in Mexico |
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| Nov. 3, 20082008-11-03 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Most-wanted Mexico drug trafficker is found everywhere Rumored sightings of Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman are legion, but Mexico's most-wanted trafficker remains at large.Most-wanted Mexico drug trafficker is found everywhere |
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| Oct. 31, 20082008-10-31 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Lions and tigers and drugs A recent raid in Mexico City turns up a menagerie filled with big cats and a monkey, another case of an alleged cartel boss collecting rare exotic species.Lions and tigers and drugs |
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| Oct. 28, 20082008-10-28 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Mexico acknowledges drug gang infiltration of police The arrest of 35 members of Mexico's elite organized-crime squad is another embarrassing setback in President Felipe Calderon's effort to root out drug trafficking.Mexico acknowledges drug gang infiltration of police |
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| Oct. 27, 20082008-10-27 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Police capture key drug suspect Eduardo Arellano Felix, an original member of a notorious cartel, is nabbed after a shootout in Tijuana.Police capture key drug suspect |
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| Oct. 25, 20082008-10-25 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | For Tijuana children, drug war gore is part of their school day The biggest civilian casualty in Tijuana's raging drug war may be the psyche of children exposed to the carnage.For Tijuana children, drug war gore is part of their school day |
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| Oct. 25, 20082008-10-25 | TijuanaTijuana | Don BartlettiBartletti | Photo GalleryPhoto Gallery | Tijuana violence Children frequently witness the gruesome aftermath of Tijuana's raging drug battles.Tijuana violence |
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| Oct. 23, 20082008-10-23 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico arrests major drug-trafficking suspect Jesus Zambada Garcia is captured after a gun battle in Mexico City. He commanded one of four branches of the Sinaloa cartel, officials say.Mexico arrests major drug-trafficking suspect |
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| Oct. 21, 20082008-10-21 | CuliacanCuliacan | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Culiacan, Mexico, feels the pain of a drug-induced recession In Mexico's cradle of drug trafficking, residents feel the sting of recession as smugglers and their money become scarce.Culiacan, Mexico, feels the pain of a drug-induced recession |
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| Oct. 18, 20082008-10-18 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | U.S. drug czar John Walters reassures, sounds alarm on Mexico drug violence In Mexico visit, anti-drug chief warns that violent cartels in Mexico "do not respect the border" and pose a threat to the United States.U.S. drug czar John Walters reassures, sounds alarm on Mexico drug violence |
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| Oct. 17, 20082008-10-17 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Two held in Mexico in killings of 24 A municipal police commander is among the accused in connection with the two dozen bodies found in a wooded area outside Mexico City.Two held in Mexico in killings of 24 |
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| Oct. 15, 20082008-10-15 | HuitzilaHuitzila | Deborah BonelloBonello | VideoVideo | Recovering addict in Mexico talks about his addiction Once just a transit nation for narcotics, Mexico now grapples with addiction.Recovering addict in Mexico talks about his addiction |
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| Oct. 15, 20082008-10-15 | HuitzilaHuitzila | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico grapples with drug addiction Long a corridor for narcotics headed for the U.S., Mexico is now contending with its own addiction problem, as U.S. border controls push traffickers to look elsewhere.Mexico grapples with drug addiction |
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| Oct. 8, 20082008-10-08 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Killing of Mexico mayor sends message The slaying of a rising political star is ascribed to his refusal to have any contact with drug traffickers.Killing of Mexico mayor sends message |
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| Oct. 6, 20082008-10-06 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Tijuana killings may signal fall of Arellano Felix cartel With dozens of bodies found in the last week, some in law enforcement see 'the tail end' of the organization. But others warn that elements of the ruthless cartel remain very much alive.Tijuana killings may signal fall of Arellano Felix cartel |
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| Oct. 1, 20082008-10-01 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico's President Calderon has few choices in drug war Though an attack on civilians in Morelia has tested the public's stomach for the increasingly savage conflict, the president has little room to pull back from his crackdown.Mexico's President Calderon has few choices in drug war |
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| Sept. 30, 20082008-09-30 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | 12 bodies found near Mexico school The grisly discovery capped four days of violence that has shaken the sprawling Tijuana metropolitan area and forced Baja California state officials to plead for more federal police to help control the city.12 bodies found near Mexico school |
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| Sept. 28, 20082008-09-28 | Mexico CityMexico City | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Morelia suspect tells of holding grenade 'I was hiding it in my hands and it made me shudder,' Juan Carlos Castro Galeana tells an interrogator in a videotaped session about the deadly attack in Mexico. 'I was desperate to get rid of it.'Morelia suspect tells of holding grenade |
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| Sept. 27, 20082008-09-27 | TijuanaTijuana | Evelyn LarrubiaLarrubia | StoryStory | An American is missing in Mexico, but his other life emerges Daniel LaPorte went to Mexico and never came back. His parents didn't know of his drug involvement.An American is missing in Mexico, but his other life emerges |
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| Sept. 18, 20082008-09-18 | MoreliaMorelia | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexicans fear they are all targets now In the wake of the deadly explosions in the capital of Michoacan state, Mexicans are forced to confront a new kind of victim in the drug wars: anyone.Mexicans fear they are all targets now |
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| Sept. 18, 20082008-09-18 | WashingtonWashington | Richard SchmittSchmitt | StoryStory | DEA arrests 175 Mexican drug-trafficking suspects The suspects, believed to have ties to Mexico's Gulf cartel, were arrested in raids this week in a dozen U.S. states.DEA arrests 175 Mexican drug-trafficking suspects |
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| Sept. 17, 20082008-09-17 | MexicaliMexicali | Richard MarosiMarosi | VideoVideo | Mexicali drug tunnel Under a simple home in a typical Mexicali neighborhood, traffickers were busy for months excavating a sophisticated tunnel toward the United States, one of seven discovered this year along this part of the U.S. borderMexicali drug tunnel |
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| Sept. 17, 20082008-09-17 | MexicaliMexicali | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Suspects in border tunnel charged, Mexico officials say The eight men arrested in the house where the sophisticated tunnel began include a suspected L.A.-area gang member.Suspects in border tunnel charged, Mexico officials say |
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| Sept. 17, 20082008-09-17 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Organized crime blamed for deadly Mexico blasts At least seven people are killed by the two explosions in the capital of Michoacan state during Independence Day celebrations.Organized crime blamed for deadly Mexico blasts |
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| Sept. 17, 20082008-09-17 | Mexico CityMexico City | Deborah BonelloBonello | VideoVideo | Reaction to Independence Day blast Mexicans react to a hand-grenade blast during Independence Day celebrations in Michoacan.Reaction to Independence Day blast |
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| Sept. 17, 20082008-09-17 | MoreliaMorelia | Deborah BonelloBonello | VideoVideo | Mexican Independence Day celebration disrupted by grenade attack Victim recounts deadly blast during Independence Day celebrations in Morelia, Michoacan.Mexican Independence Day celebration disrupted by grenade attack |
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| Sept. 15, 20082008-09-15 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico safety chief's tough job: policing the police Drug money and corruption have long tainted law enforcement. But Genaro Garcia Luna, with President Calderon's backing and the aid of technology, may succeed in reforming the system, analysts say.Mexico safety chief's tough job: policing the police |
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| Sept. 7, 20082008-09-07 | TecateTecate | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | In Mexico, a police victory against smuggling brings deadly revenge Juan Jose Soriano, deputy commander of the Tecate Police Department, helped U.S. authorities find a drug-smuggling tunnel. The next morning, gunmen shot him 45 times in his bedroom.In Mexico, a police victory against smuggling brings deadly revenge |
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| Sept. 7, 20082008-09-07 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Lorena Iñiguez ElebeeIñiguez Elebee | Interactive GraphicInteractive Graphic | In Mexico, no police victory goes unpunished Juan Jose Soriano, the deputy commander of the Tecate Police Department, assisted U.S. authorities in a drug tunnel investigation, and paid with his life.In Mexico, no police victory goes unpunished |
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| Sept. 2, 20082008-09-02 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Calderon presents Mexico's annual report in written form A new law allows President Felipe Calderon to give his state of the nation report without having to appear before Congress, a move that avoids disturbances.Calderon presents Mexico's annual report in written form |
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| Sept. 1, 20082008-09-01 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Fear of kidnapping grips Mexico The number is rising, and the rich are not the only ones targeted. Criminals sometimes want as little as $500.Fear of kidnapping grips Mexico |
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| Aug. 31, 20082008-08-31 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Thousands of Mexicans rally to protest rising crime wave 'Enough' they say as they blame officials for failing to curb the rising violence caused by drug gangs.Thousands of Mexicans rally to protest rising crime wave |
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| Aug. 30, 20082008-08-30 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Drug war bodies are piling up in Mexico The heap of 11 decapitated bodies found in Yucatan shows that the battle to control the multibillion-dollar drug trade knows no boundaries.Drug war bodies are piling up in Mexico |
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| Aug. 29, 20082008-08-29 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken Ellingwood, Cecilia SanchezEllingwood | StoryStory | 12 decapitated bodies found in Mexico's Yucatan peninsula The discovery is the first sign of a major outbreak of drug cartel violence in Yucatan.12 decapitated bodies found in Mexico's Yucatan peninsula |
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| Aug. 22, 20082008-08-22 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico moves to curb drug crime wave President Calderon proposes new anti-kidnapping squads, special prisons, cellphone tracking and aid for local forces.Mexico moves to curb drug crime wave |
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| Aug. 19, 20082008-08-19 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | In Chihuahua, Mexico, governor calls for tougher crackdown on crime Gov. Jose Reyes Baeza calls on federal authorities to reform their strategy after 13 people are killed in a weekend shooting.In Chihuahua, Mexico, governor calls for tougher crackdown on crime |
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| Aug. 17, 20082008-08-17 | El PasoEl Paso | Miguel BustilloBustillo | StoryStory | Mexico drug war's costs, risks exported to U.S. Officers and others wounded across the border are increasingly being transferred to an El Paso hospital.Mexico drug war's costs, risks exported to U.S. |
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| Aug. 14, 20082008-08-14 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | 6 officers in Mexico crime unit arrested The men are believed to have aided drug smugglers in Sinaloa state, officials say.6 officers in Mexico crime unit arrested |
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| Aug. 13, 20082008-08-13 | Mexico CityMexico City | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico violence claims 6 more police officers The victims include two top commanders in Michoacan, a senior investigator in Chihuahua and a deputy chief in Quintana Roo.Mexico violence claims 6 more police officers |
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| Aug. 10, 20082008-08-10 | Sierra VistaSierra Vista | Richard SerranoSerrano | StoryStory | U.S. guns arm Mexican drug cartels Licensed weapons dealers are abundant near the border. 'Straw buyers' assist the traffickers.U.S. guns arm Mexican drug cartels |
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| Aug. 9, 20082008-08-09 | EnsenadaEnsenada | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Mexico anti-drug general is ousted Sergio Aponte Polito is relieved of duty in Baja California and Sonora states. He has won public praise for his effectiveness but also criticism from officials for accusations against them.Mexico anti-drug general is ousted |
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| Aug. 5, 20082008-08-05 | Mexico CityMexico City | Marla Dickerson, Cecilia SanchezDickerson | StoryStory | Mexican police linked to rising kidnappings Many are afraid to contact authorities about abductions, fearing officers could be involved. The problem is an awkward one for President Felipe Calderon's drug war.Mexican police linked to rising kidnappings |
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| July 30, 20082008-07-30 | TijuanaTijuana | Don BartlettiBartletti | Photo GalleryPhoto Gallery | Narcocorridos As violence mounts, Mexico tries to mute the music dedicated to drug traffickers.Narcocorridos |
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| July 30, 20082008-07-30 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Muting the music of mayhem As drug-related violence escalates, Tijuana is losing its taste for songs that glorify gangsters.Muting the music of mayhem |
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| July 16, 20082008-07-16 | Ciudad JuarezCiudad Juarez | Tracy WilkinsonWilkinson | StoryStory | Drug war mayhem instills a new fear Drug-related killings have taken thousands of lives, but now those uninvolved in the cartel battles are falling victim, even children.Drug war mayhem instills a new fear |
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| July 15, 20082008-07-15 | Mexico CityMexico City | Marla Dickerson, Cecilia SanchezDickerson | StoryStory | Sinaloa rocked by soaring drug violence At least 21 people are killed in five days as turf wars between splintered gangs appear to heat up.Sinaloa rocked by soaring drug violence |
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| July 11, 20082008-07-11 | Mexico CityMexico City | Marla DickersonDickerson | StoryStory | 12 slain in brazen Mexico attack In daylight near the center of Sinaloa's capital, gunmen kill nine at a shop and three pursuing officers. 12 slain in brazen Mexico attack |
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| July 8, 20082008-07-08 | TijuanaTijuana | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | Tijuana finds 11 dead in 3 days The weekend tally pushes the city's death toll to more than 260, compared with about 152 homicides at this time last year, and underscores authorities' difficulties curbing organized crime.Tijuana finds 11 dead in 3 days |
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| July 6, 20082008-07-06 | VillahermosaVillahermosa | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Reporters covering Mexico drug wars risk their lives As violence has soared, more than 30 reporters have died or disappeared in Mexico since 2000, the group Reporters Without Borders says.Reporters covering Mexico drug wars risk their lives |
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| June 11, 20082008-06-11 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Macabre drug cartel messages in Mexico Part threat and part boast, the hand-written messages left at the scene of drug killings have multiplied. The words are a warning to enemies, and to society at large.Macabre drug cartel messages in Mexico |
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| June 7, 20082008-06-07 | Los AngelesLos Angeles | Richard MarosiMarosi | StoryStory | U.S. a haven for Tijuana elite Three years ago, gunmen tried to kidnap chef Javier Plascencia's younger brother. A year later they tried again but, in a case of mistaken identity, snatched the wrong man.U.S. a haven for Tijuana elite |
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| June 3, 20082008-06-03 | Nuevo LaredoNuevo Laredo | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Army's role in Mexico drug war seen as crucial yet risky Observers fear the deployment will hurt democracy and civil institutions, but they see no alternative.Army's role in Mexico drug war seen as crucial yet risky |
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| June 3, 20082008-06-03 | TijuanaTijuana | Ken EllingwoodEllingwood | StoryStory | Mexico vs. drug gangs: A deadly clash for control President Felipe Calderon says the violence is one measure of success: It shows that the cartels have been hurt badly and are now lashing out at the government and one another.Mexico vs. drug gangs: A deadly clash for control |
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Until we end prohibition, we will continue to get the violence that prohibition causes. We must legalize, regulate and tax. This will put a stop to the majority of gang violence, and also generate billions in new tax revenue. Drug use will probably stay the same, or even decrease slightly, remember anyone who wants drugs can already get them. Also additional treatment can be funded by all the new tax dollars. |
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posted 8:53 AM on 11/17/09
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I live in San diego and the more I read in the news about the violence and corruption in Mexico, the more ambitious I am to do further research on the history of drug violence between Mexico and the United States. These problems are directly related to Mexico's ignorance of the poverty and will to power within the country. More U.S. military at the border and within the country should be stopped, as this does not address the real problems of why the violence and corruption continues. The legalization of marijuana in both countries could halt the smuggling and change the entire view of this so-called drug, which has been proven time and again to be more beneficial than harmful to our bodies. But the most important aspect of ending this gruesome violence is in ending poverty. When desperate times call for desperate measures, we put risk into motion to save our state of mind, our health, and even our lives. I would be interested to see the Obama administration and Calderon discuss these essential factors, before discussing more military, another border, or more money diverted to a temporary solution. |
Samantha I.
posted 8:30 AM on 11/17/09
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I just think that the US should just invade Mexico. Mexico's government is so corrupt that there might as well not be a government; you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. This violence is spreading into the southwestern United States and if Mexico can't deal with it, then someone needs to. These gruesome killings need to stop! |
Alex
posted 2:32 PM on 11/13/09
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According to my family members in Mazatlan, the violence there has increased dramatically in recent weeks, but you have no coverage of it. Why not? According to what we hear the Zetas are killing and dismembering people at will. Police are being shot and killed in broad daylight, but you have no news of it. You have been our only "accurate source" in this war. Could you check it out. |
DH
posted 8:54 AM on 09/03/09
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We will. Unfortunately, such violence is breaking out all over. The latest was a massacre of 18 people in Ciudad Juarez. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:41 AM on 09/04/09
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Here in Mexico there are people who believe it's just a matter of time for that the United States invading us, because the current violence can cause ungovernability, which is a serious risk to our northern neighbors. |
Alma Libre
posted 1:04 PM on 08/30/09
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Gun trafficking to Mexico does cause problems. But 10 guns here and even 15 guns there is not the problem. The problem is corruption. The US and other countries have sold arms to the Mexican government. These are powerful weapons like machine guns and RPGs to name a few. Corrupt politicians, army, and police individuals or groups find a way to sell them to the cartels. They sell everything by truckloads! How can this ever be stopped? |
Jethro Mayham
posted 12:45 PM on 08/30/09
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I know corruption. Back in 1964 we were in TJ.Well as the story goes. My bubbies and I were walking between Clubs. We had gone to the Blue Fox and were on are way to the Chicago Club. We had to cross the parking lot of the |
Poncho
posted 9:15 PM on 08/27/09
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Guess what? A lot of the killings are for political interest to become an a goberment figure , the police has a lot to do with that, theres a war but not just for drugs is for power and corruption . |
joel
posted 2:11 PM on 08/27/09
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Felipe Calderón stole the presidential election? Hogwash! Those of us who are "normal" Mexican citizens, with no political axe to grind, are convinced that it isn't so. Several family members and friends were officials or observers at the polling places, and they are convinced that voting fraud on any more than a tiny, very isolated scale was completely impossible. Andrés Manuel López Obrador and his followers have never given up on the fraud claim, but all the evidence that they've ever submitted has proven to be specious or of less than compelling strength. |
Patricio
posted 3:52 PM on 08/26/09
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Calderon stole the presidential election in Mexico. What's happening there now is not so much a 'drug war,' as an insurrection. |
AspenFreePress
posted 8:41 PM on 08/24/09
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I see one solution.Lets make Mexico a 52 state?Why not we wont have illegal aliens problem well have more work in tourist section considering alot of Countries visset Mexico for their vacation.Oil industry and the rest Years ago this was a topic.Whe should look at that option? |
anthony bauwens
posted 4:12 AM on 08/22/09
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What an excellent series! |
Bernard Hudson MD PC
posted 10:59 AM on 08/15/09
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I am an American who lived in Chihuahua City very happily for 20 years. In June I took my kids and left everything to get them into the US away from the violence.. My husband is still there, he is Mexican and cant work here. He is commuting, Many people I know are doing this right now. |
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posted 11:11 AM on 08/12/09
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I've been reading about the Familia de Michoacan and how they have their own religion and how they even give people in their organization training on their ethics and ideology. I keep hearing about one book they have "El más Loco. Pensamientos. 5ª Edición. Michoacán. México. 2008" but have only seen one outtake publicized. Out of sheer curiosity and the desire to learn more about how these groups think, I'd like to know if any of their books or other information is available on the internet. Or hey-if you guys could write an article about it that'd be cool too. (On a whim I tried to find the book on Amazon..it was a no-go.) |
Falco
posted 4:06 PM on 08/08/09
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We mentioned the collected wit and wisdom of "The Craziest One," and Tracy Wilkinson is pretty well briefed on its contents. It appears to be a rare find, no doubt self-published. I see there's some e-mail traffic from people in Mexico who are curious about finding it, too. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:38 PM on 08/10/09
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who is realy behaind all of this . is the usa and mexico and the big corporations owned by sicret rich people.it is always the 1% of the rich and powerful people controling the 99% of the pooer people . with lies and greed. but is the church inbolve too? |
jose
posted 12:38 AM on 08/07/09
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INDISCRIMINATE SALE OF WEAPONS HERE FIND THEIR WAY TO MEXICO,ALSO THE AMMUNITION.OUR PERMESSIVE GUN LAWS ADDS TO THE ACCESS FOR ANY ONE WITH "MONEY"(THE BOTTOM LINE) TO PURCHASE "HIGH POWERED WEAPONS".THEY ARE NOT GOING TO "HUNT QUAILS,RABITTS,DOVES".TIGHTER RULES RE: HIGH POWERED WEAPONS. |
MANUEL SR.
posted 8:27 PM on 08/03/09
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I know for a fact two different families that were harrassed and one was put in prison due to the police in Puerto Penasco, Rocky Point. I have now been hearing from other friends about people that have faced the same difficulites. I really think this should be looked in to. I love Mexico and have even studied there. Now I would not consider going there. If you want more information I will share it with you. The amount of money involved to get these people out is unreal. I think it has become frequent in the past couple of years. Many do not want to talk about it because of their fears. |
Kathy
posted 9:50 AM on 08/02/09
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I was inspired to post the other morning as I read through your series. Now tonight I find the latest; yet another incident! This time children were victims. Once again, if the Mexican government wants to take the legs out from under the cartels they will put people to work and begin to develop this country and build programs that will give people hope and a prayer of living better lives. Cartels thrive because those associated have better lives than most Mexican citizens. Starts with education and developing the cities and towns and making them something to be proud of. The majority of the people in places like TJ live day to day hopeless lives. The poor in America would be considered to have a privileged and blessed life by most Mexicans south of the border, especially in areas like TJ and Juarez. Why wouldn't they take an offer to get involved in a task that will result in a paycheck and a better life? In America I can go to school and apply myself and secure a job and live a decent life. Not the same in Mexico. We need to pressure this country to build programs that will put people to work and develop their neighborhoods and towns. Hmmm...this is the kind of stuff we hear in the US in our blighted neighborhoods. How about trying this out in Mexico. |
Jonathan
posted 11:08 PM on 07/30/09
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Cowards, Cowards, Cowards! The killing of innocent children and those not involved in this drug war cannot and should not be tolerated. It is time the Mexican Government "took the gloves off" and came after those responsible with the full weight and resources at its disposable. It is time the President of Mexico send a clear message that these types of attacks will elicit a special governmental response that is inescapable, swift and brutal. Make no mistake, these attacks were meant to intimidate citizens and send a message to the government that the narcos are not scared! It is time for the government to act in a manner that brings fear to those who will kill Mexico’s innocent children! |
Carli-Mex
posted 8:43 AM on 07/30/09
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I dated a girl in TJ over the last nine months making numerous trips across the border. I experienced fear as a result of cartel violence on one occasion. It occurred at 4am on a Sunday. I was awakened by rapid machine gun fire! Three rounds were fired 5 minutes apart and in each instance the shooting got closer to my location. I learned that the last round was fired near the main drag through Otay Mesa just a block away. I also learned that a 17 year old kid was killed, the son of a rival gang member. I also had a scary experience in the Revolucion area. I was walking along the street talking on my cell phone when I was stopped by hooded cops who had me spread my legs and put my hands on the hood of the police vehicle while they frisked me and emptied my pockets. They determined that I wasn't doing anything wrong and gave me everything back and sent me on my way. Maybe they thought I was dealing drugs or something. I don't know. But it sure put a scare in me. I experienced what I considered to be the on going affects of "Mexico's War on Drugs". The famous Revolucion area is a virtual ghost town. I'll never go near there again and many other Americans are the same. Clubs and other businesses are shut down. Rosarito and Puerto Nuevo are the same. The sad part is there doesn't seem to be any answers for the average Mexican citizen who wants nothing to do with the Narcos. Many citizens have few options for survival especially women, many of whom are single with children. Prostitution in many cases becomes their choice of "employment". Employment is the answer but preferably legitimate or more traditional employment. Our government should be pressuring the Mexican government to create an economy that will put people to work. That would solve many problems. Women could have real jobs. Men could be on construction projects and providing other honest services to their society. Illegal immigration would slow. Americans would go back to visiting Rosarito and Ensenada. People are looking for a way to feed their families and live a good life. We call it life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. This is readily available in our country. But in Mexico not so much. I suggest a different approach to the problem. Granted it isn't an easy fix. Put people to work. Drugs are a horse out of the barn. There is huge demand. As long as the demand is there the suppliers will supply and the users will find a way to use. Legalize Marijuana. I don't and never will use the stuff but it's caused far less tragedy in the lives of Americans than alcohol. Educate and create an anti drug culture at an early age and make penalties stiffer for illegal use. War is not the answer! What does the Mexican government say about the fight against the cartels? Successful so far? What about America? Are we happy with the progress? I'd be interested in hearing your feedback. |
Jonathan
posted 3:21 AM on 07/29/09
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I'm pretty sure I don't want to answer for "America," but I doubt anyone thinks the war on drugs is a ripping success. And everyone seems to have a different measure. I can say that neither U.S. nor Mexican officials were satisfied with the results thus far, last time they met. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:09 PM on 07/29/09
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The drug cartells are supported by governments who have a 'black budget'. The struggle for power is behind the cartells. Question: do you think u.s. involment is shared in cartell operations. |
pfc
posted 9:59 PM on 07/28/09
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So how true is that "el Conde" a top capo in the Juarez cartel in Chihuahua is dead? Word of mouth in the streets of Chihuahua he was killed about 2 weeks ago. There are no reports anywhere confirming his death. If this is true that pretty much means "la Linea" of Chihuahua is done. |
AORA
posted 10:14 AM on 07/25/09
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No word on whether that's so. We'll check. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 9:24 PM on 07/28/09
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I would ask that you review other sources related to who supplies the weapons to the cartels. Some statistics have been generalized now to the point that the next speaker will simply say that all guns in Mexico are bought at Gun Shows in America. |
Bob Hunt
posted 9:43 AM on 07/20/09
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Good point about loose use of information about gun smuggling. We've made it the point repetitively in this space and in our articles that ATF has a limited data set on guns used by Mexican cartels - it only knows about the guns that Mexico has submitted for tracing. That is not the entire universe of guns supplied to the cartels. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:58 AM on 07/20/09
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Growing up in neighboring El Paso, Tx., the drug violence we see throughout Mexico today was never evident. However, considering the international attention Mexico has received over the past few years for its inability to control the drug violence; one would wonder why the Mexican Government has not requested military assistance from its friendly US neighbor? It seems to me the Mexican Government has historically done a marginally poor job stimulating economic growth in other business sectors for the benefit of its people and failing miserably to place attention to the drug industry it has conveniently overlooked during the past 40 years or so, promoting the corruption fueled by greedy financial interests the drug industry promotes today. The day the Mexican officials embrace the idea of promoting a government that favors democracy and stop receiving the "mordida", the drug industry will continue to consume its most valuable commodity, it's people... |
LA Pages
posted 1:36 PM on 07/18/09
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Mexico has asked for and received substantial assistance from the United States, including intelligence, training and equipment for its military to use in the fight against the cartels. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:33 AM on 07/20/09
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bulldozers..the Mexican government should bulldoze the homes of thouse who kill officers....I saw a tour group being shown the home of a drug lord in coastall mexico this shows a sigh of romance in being a drug lord...the same home bulldozed would show a sign of government strength and a grave warning to other drug lords |
Harry Osell
posted 12:38 PM on 07/17/09
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how is justice served if you get arrested in TJ for not paying a ticket, a friend was arrested and was given a ticket and asked if he had any money the ticket would be taken care of. My friend said he would not pay. he was arrested and the charge was not as indicated at the time of arrest. he was put into jail. |
Ted Patino
posted 8:14 PM on 07/15/09
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After viewing these photos, it seems to me that it is now "OK" for the news media to show explicit photos of dead Mexican,Iraqi, or Palestinian bodies, but not OK to show explicit photos of carnage involving dead Americans or Israelis. It used to be that such photos would never be published out of respect for the dead and their families. Could this type of coverage be due a general lack of respect for these groups of people, or just morbid curiousity that sells newspapers? |
Laura
posted 12:49 PM on 07/15/09
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There is no such edict that I know of. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:46 PM on 07/16/09
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Legalize. |
Zachary Davis
posted 9:19 AM on 07/15/09
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What Mexican city would you say is the most dangerous at the time? |
Carlos A. Silva
posted 10:39 PM on 07/14/09
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Check our map for the homicide rates. I think Juarez still takes the dubious prize. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:44 PM on 07/16/09
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I am surprise that this country, a cornerstone of capitalism can't understand supply and demand laws. The more we buy illegal drugs the more violence it will create. Is easier to buy illegal drugs in the US than to buy a simple antibiotic to treat a cold infection, this does not make any sense. |
Gabriel
posted 1:01 PM on 07/14/09
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In the begining of this article the autor has said that there has been more deaths in Mexico then in Iraq. Had he taken under consideration the civil deaths in Iraq? |
Gheorg
posted 8:20 AM on 07/13/09
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That reference is to U.S. (troop) casualties. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:47 AM on 07/13/09
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So "la Linea"(Juarez Cartel) and "la gente nueva" (Sinaloa Cartel)are fighting for the "plaza" of the state of Chihuahua it seem like la Linea is winning the war in the Chihuahua city but in Juarez city la gente is wining. there has been reports that "el JL" (the top lieutenant in Juarez Cartel) was kick out of Juarez how true is this? Also "el Chalo"(Lieutenant in Chihuahua city) was capture by the milatary who took over the lieutenant position in Chihuahua after his capture? |
ARR
posted 4:00 PM on 07/11/09
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The internal changes are hard to follow, as they often aren't public until a body shows up. But El Chalo's career apparently did end last year. As for "JL," he seems to be everywhere and nowhere, somewhat like the Keyser Soze legend from "The Usual Suspects." |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:05 PM on 07/13/09
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This is not just a social or a political problem. It is a spiritual and moral problem, involving great spiritual darkness fomented by demonic activity. It is nothing new. In Cali and Medellin, a pastor who challenged the traffickers was assassinated, and pastors and churches finally had enough, unified, and held city-wide prayer meetings, attended by thousands, as documented in a video put out by Christian television. The murder rate began to decline and Pablo Escobar met justice, as did other drug lords. Residents of these towns impacted by violence need to gather and pray and ask for God's sovereign intervention. I am praying for a spiritual revival, led by the Mexican churches/pastors, and I invite anyone to join me. MH |
Mark Hudson
posted 1:39 PM on 07/11/09
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From what I understand a Mexican police officer is issued a gun and 3 bullets per year? Is this correct? If so how are Mexican police fighting these cartels when they are poorly equipped? I also have an uncle in Mexico who was in a special response task force to police in these special situations, are there now more of these task forces? |
Dave S.
posted 12:41 AM on 07/11/09
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That three-bullet notion is urban legend, as far as I can tell. But Mexican police are vastly out-gunned by traffickers. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:19 PM on 07/13/09
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On the subject of a failed state... wouldn't 'rogue' state be more accurate? It is in many ways resembling that. It's a place where the highest police officals are reciprocated upon and members of gov't are not functioning with the purpose of civil service but instead for the agendas of those criminally influenced. Whether it is justifiable to use any military in this situation seems to me an inconceivable debate. Unless of course, the prosepct of having MP's end up being your local law enforcement is a more fearful idea. |
kilsoo
posted 11:25 PM on 07/10/09
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The term "rogue" state is reserved for states whose policies deliberately function in a manner counter to the prevailing order, be it against international treaties and agreements or in counter to a multi-lateral consensus, such as United Nations resolutions. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:29 PM on 07/13/09
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This is a great resource to those who want to know more about the drug war and all of its deleterious effects. I hope all the readers of this website take the time to speak against the drug war in some way. Sheldon Richman does a terrific job explaining the ramifications of this war in this article: http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/peripatetics/what-the-drug-warriors-have-given-us/ |
Robert
posted 1:14 PM on 07/09/09
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In the interest of balance, I'd also offer the Dept. of Justice's counter-argument to legalization. And this article includes a more comprehensive bibliography of counterpoints to legalization. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:58 PM on 07/09/09
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Can you relate the sqeeze on drugs coming over to the u.s. to the ecenomic recession that we are having . I can ! If you release the pressure valve prices drop and money flows more constantly therefore more money into the economy cause we ballin out of control . But thats not it right now prices are still high that puts a dent in the pockets i have to have so much to re up so i cant ball out of control cause prices are high . It is a very complex process but is very reliable info!!!!!!!!!! |
francisco
posted 4:57 PM on 07/08/09
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Geoff, I absolute agree with you. Any effort to intensify education and treatment is a step in the right direction, whether drugs are legal or not. - as long as the education is presented in a factual, scientific way, yet still in terms that a laymen could understand. Most media/government education regarding drugs is highly sensationalized (reefer madness, your brain on drugs) - these education tactics are dangerous because they inject an emotional element to the message. They are entirely counter-productive, and a little insulting to the intelligence of the American public. Intensifying treatment efforts is critical as well, but the problem is the attitude that addicts have toward treatment. Unfortunately treatment effectiveness (in it's present state or otherwise bolstered) will always be hindered because of the air of fear shared by addicts. The truth us, not that many bad addicts willingly put themselves into treatment because of fear of incarceration or other social consequences. They, as society does, view themselves as criminal, a highly demonized individual who needs to remain underground. |
Mike
posted 3:42 PM on 07/08/09
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I'd love to hear more people weigh in on this one. Addiction experts say mandatory treatment referrals from court are the way to go. The sad truth is it is very hard to convince an addict to seek treatment voluntarily. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:54 PM on 07/09/09
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If you look at the organized crime wars of the prohibition era or your run of the mill Los Angeles area street gangs, fighting for drug turf, you will see very close similarities to what is happening in Mexico. The difference is the lengh of time the Mexican cartels have gone largely unchallenged. |
Cali-Mex
posted 2:46 PM on 07/08/09
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Although much has been made of whether Mexico is becoming "Colombianized," the two fronts of the drug war are vastly different. Colombia's war is deeply intertwined with a long-running guerrilla war that aims to seize political power. Thus far, Mexico's drug cartels have not had political aims, although they have made modest attempts to elicit support from the public to get the army out of enforcement. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:53 PM on 07/08/09
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I wish there would be more reporting on the main reason these violent cartels exist in the first place. Actually I wouldn't even say the main reason, but the only reason. The only reason they exist is because of the drug laws! Yet we justify all of the violence and consequent counter-violence because of the costs that these drugs would have on our society if they widely available. We really need to stop being naive and realize that they are widely available, just as much and more so- despite all the incarcerations, billions of dollar spent, and deaths since the beginning of the drug war. I know the stigma attached to drugs makes it difficult to imagine legalization (especially the more dangerous drugs), but we've sociologically proven to ourselves that those who really want to ingest these things are going to do so whether they are legal or not. The difference between a legal scenario and the one we have is simply have they get their drugs - they get them from a criminal. They get them from a person with evil intentions who is trying to get them hooked to profit off of them. In a legal scenario, drugs could be responsibly regulated and only be available from someone like a pharmacist. -Someone who has compassion, someone who could offer guidance and education, and someone who has spent 8+ years learning the effects of drugs. The criminal element would completely disappear, (there's no way they could compete with Walgreen's) and finally we can start approaching addiction as it really is: AN ILLNESS. I would like a response from the the staff, but I don't expect one because it seems they only address comments relating to the FEAR over this problem. It seems they don't acknowledge the root of the problem: the laws. All of this violence is symptoms of the problem. All the media ever does is just identify the symptoms in a compelling way. |
Mike
posted 2:29 PM on 07/08/09
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Geoff Mohan
posted 2:29 PM on 07/08/09
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I am pushing for a stronger Canadian/US border. We Canadians should be putting gun turrets and a huge barb-wire fence along our border. Eventually, there will be a border problem like the US has with Mexico, as that border is going to fail. |
CEOmike
posted 5:41 AM on 07/08/09
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Do you think that the Colombian cartels are still involve in this or that the mexican cartels have become auto sufficient and they might be producing the drugs in Mexico as well as different subtropical countries that no body suspects? |
Jaime
posted 7:08 AM on 07/06/09
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What kind of collaboration between Mexican and US authorities is taking place to resolve the situation of US citizens being kidnapped in Mexico and thereafter demanding ransom moneys from US based relatives? |
Jose Garcia
posted 6:18 PM on 07/04/09
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Violence in Mexico has spread to citizens as well. My cousin was just kidnapped by Los Zetas and is currently being held captive. Ransom, $60,000, was just paid and they continue to hold him.(someone screwed up in the exchange). Everytime they call they beat the lights out of him, torture, etc. Stay away from Zacatecas. I have another cousin out there that works for the police department. The only reason he is alive is because he lets them work (i.e. controlling the drug market, kidnapping citizens that own businesses out there). He'll be heading North soon to get out of constantly living in threat.
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Ricardo
posted 4:58 PM on 07/04/09
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why don"t we make drugs legal in this country,that would take the profit out of it and stop most of this crap,we could control it |
stan heasley
posted 5:11 AM on 07/04/09
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OK THIS IS MY OPTION, USA CAN BARELY HANDLE THE WAR IN IRAQ ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE DIEING AND WE STILL HAVENT EVEN KILLED ALQAIDA TERRIOST! SO ITS MAKING IT SEEM OUR PEOPLE ARE DYING FOR NOTHING.... SO WHAT MAKES US THINK WERE GONNA HANDLE THE TRAFFIC OF THE AUTOMATIC WEAPONS GOING TO MEXICO!! WITH OUT AN AGREEMENT.... ABOUT MEXICO THE HARDEST PART WAS TO GET IT STARTED NOW IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE... THATS WHATS MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THE MEXICAN NATION, BECAUSE THERE GONNA DIE WITH PRIDE!!!! AN IN THE END ITS GONNA REDUCE THE FLOW OF THE DRUGS GOING IN N OUT OF THE COUNTRIES!!!! |
juan aguilar
posted 10:25 PM on 07/01/09
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Mr. Meadows, |
Andrew Baum
posted 4:08 PM on 06/30/09
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Funny how we stopped the killing related to alcohol distribution in the US by repealing prohibition. Our drug policy has made the situation in Mexico possible. We are to blame. |
Andrew Baum
posted 3:54 PM on 06/30/09
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There is only one way this drug war will end and that is with it's repeal. Just as Prohibition wrecked havoc in the 20's the drug war has done for the last 40 years that I can remember. The only consolation is that the people promoting the war on drugs are often the victims. Reap what ye sow. |
kentvander
posted 1:00 PM on 06/30/09
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First, I appreciate Professor Chabat's contribution to this extraordinary series. With brevity, the professor lays out an intellectual framework for looking, objectively, at both (or all) sides of many issues in a crisis which is now, undeniably, a war. A war in which the citizens of Mexico uphold a long tradition of Mexican democracy: they are powerless in the face of armed force. If this were not true, we would not be witnessing the killing of police, the killing of elected officials, the killing of innocent civilians. In this context my qestion to Professor Chabat is this: while we discuss the likely benefits of legalizing some drugs, does he see any benefit in the citizens of Mexico having the right to keep and bear arms? When I say arms, I include 9mm, .45 and .50 caliber handguns, bolt action and semi automatic hunting rifles, and shotguns, as well as the right to own and use reloading equipment? Would he see any benefit in Mexico's citizenry to effectively, lawfuuly and openly arm themselves against the kind of violence they continue to endure? |
jggrimm
posted 9:18 AM on 06/28/09
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Correction Al Capone was not in the Mafia.He had his own criminal organiztion. So many people make this same mistake! |
George
posted 7:15 AM on 06/28/09
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We're in a recession, a great one at that. Who buys drugs anymore? Should this not be hurting the cartels to almost breaking point? basic supply and demand could turn out to be the death of the Cartel?. |
Chris Meadows
posted 2:24 AM on 06/28/09
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it isn't that the USA state is the biggest drug user they are the biggest drug sellers in the world and there for the drugs will never stop being a factor in the USA AND WE ALL KNOW THIS SO STOP ACTING LIKE we don't KNOW |
tyrone
posted 11:47 AM on 06/27/09
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I think it's impossible to wrap ones mind around the problem in Mexico. Reporting what's happening there must be difficult, and dangerous at times. I commend you for doing your best to be accurate and impartial with your reporting. Your stories are interesting and informative. I get no sense of the sensational, but only a desire to be as clear and honest as possible. Thank you all. DH |
Dean Helzer
posted 9:05 PM on 06/26/09
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Should I fear the police |
Enrique
posted 4:56 PM on 06/26/09
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Au contrere, mon frere. The writers in the field do so at great personal peril. Yes, I am an NRA, right winger, so in terms of the editorial leanings of the LATimes, I am rarely in agreement. But this coverage, in my seasoned opinion, is high quality journalism. Hemingway said "...just tell the story..." I think that is what is being done here. The madness, the astonishing, grotesque and cowardly violence is the reality. The cruel indifference of drug mobsters reaking havoc on the citizens of Mexico is a story that needs to be told. The police, long corrupt, are now shown for their complicity. The body political of Mexico has been either bought or scared off. The army, fearing identity, wear masks. This is a war to the end. The winner takes Mexico. The L.A. Times is telling the story, and doing a heck of job. |
jggrimm
posted 12:20 PM on 06/26/09
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Your commentary about going to Mexico say little to nothing. First off have you ever been to Mexico your self? Or do you just pass on what you read. Like the president of Mexico said if you come to Mexico to buy or sell drugs or break the law stay home. We just got back from Houston where my wife's purse was stolen from our vehicle. they found her phone book they calls us and threaten to kill her. Their for awhile Mexican bns man were been mugged by criminals in D.C. Yet the Mexican advisory committee seldom ever warns their own people about potential hot spots in the US. Just one solitary American get hurt in Mexico and the iron curtain comes down between the two countries..Ignorance breaths Ignorance!! |
frank carter
posted 10:33 AM on 06/26/09
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hit them where it "hurts" the money!! where is it? tear down their infrastucture.lawyer's ,banker's, has mexico address these options? it worked in the the "most dangerous,violent country' of colombia.target the money! |
manuel
posted 2:39 AM on 06/26/09
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Would Predator drones used a la Afghanistan and Pakistan help reduce the effectiveness of the various cartels' destruction of peace in Mexico? For example, just as NATO intelligence know who the major Taliban and Al Quaida players are in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the authorities in Mexico pretty much know who the major cartel players are. In the middle east attack drones fly high over head waiting for a clear shot at the bad guys. The same could be done in Mexico. Whenever a cartel boss or any of his lieutenants or other senior leaders (including those in the field) go into one of their drug financed haciendas, BANG! the place comes down around their ears with the help of a hellfire missile. If they get in a car to go count their money somewhere, BANG! The car disappears with the help of another hellfire missile. Granted, this means some rights are trampled on, but this is more of a war than most wars. It needs to be fought that way. Start cutting off the heads of all the beasts out there and the rest are a bunch of unorganized thugs. Then keep cutting the heads off of anyone who tries to crawl to the top. I'm as reasonable as the next guy, but the situation is so out of control there is no way normal rule of law will work. Rule of law as we know it in the United States only works if 99.999% of the people buy into it and support it, and those who enforce it (i.e. the police). In Mexico it is far too dangerous to buy into it. It is far too dangerous to help the police. The decriminalization of Mexico needs a jump start. Attack drones with good intel on target locations and tracking would be a very good aid in helping that jump start. Regards. |
BillR
posted 6:26 PM on 06/25/09
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Congratulations to LA Times and their staff for providing this very graphical and microscopic view of violence among drug cartels in Mexico. Your views and commentaries are a sure way to cause fear, tension, anxiety and confusion among people who are not involved in this situation and live far away and safe in the comforts of their internet-furnished homes or offices. Once more, your stories fail to see a broader view of why things happen the way they are (i.e. in-depth investigation of the need created for the drugs in the U.S. in terms of money and amount of users). I applaud your keen eye for news that cause sensationalism and negative impressions to neighboring countries. |
Razzel Dazzel
posted 11:26 PM on 06/19/09
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MEXICO goverment has the solution but they rather sit on it, they shoud form a special well traine army and take them out one by one learn from ISRAEL they know how to stop terrorist |
henry
posted 9:22 PM on 06/19/09
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It is time to take a stand for freedom if it your choice to just say no, Nancy would be proud of you, but we need to be given the freedom of choice. This insanity has gone on long enough it is time to declare victory in the war on drugs and end the prohibition, both in the U.S. and Mexico. Freedom from gang turf wars, overzealous regulatory agencies and the oppression and violence they both bring to our doorstep. Counties that have legalized drug use don’t have the violence or the slums. |
Ken Hickerson
posted 9:20 PM on 06/19/09
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With respect to the flow of guns into Mexico, I believe the bigger problem is that none of the guns are in the hands of the law abiding citizens of Mexico. Unarmed, they are trapped between murderous drug cartel gangsters, corrupt and complicit police, and a masked military. The best thing Mexico could do is lift the ban on gun ownership by its citizens. Mexico has a constitutional right to self defense, but it is apparent that it doesn't do much good when the means of self defense are denied to all but those who so desperately need it. Here's how it reads: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. |
jggrimm
posted 12:09 PM on 06/19/09
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I've been corrected on this point, so let me correct it here: Mexico does not "ban" guns. But they restrict a great many types and calibers to "military use" only. The average citizen can buy a Glock 25, a .38 special, or a .380 auto, for example. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:09 PM on 06/19/09
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Do you think legalizing and taxing of drugs could be possible? Do you think it will happen in wake of all the drugs problems in Mexico and The USA? |
Sourd420
posted 1:19 AM on 06/17/09
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Calls to decriminalize marijuana have been increasing, although it doesn't appear that more than a handfull of states are willing to liberalize their marijuana regulations, and those that do find themselves in conflict with federal authorities. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:02 AM on 06/18/09
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Please end the pointless drug war. It has not worked, we need to progress and find another way to deal with illicit drug use. It is not a crime, it is a health issue. Remove the crime element and guess what, you remove the profits of the cartels. It is really that simple, those that argue against this view aren't really arguing at all. We cannot continue like this, too many people are dying and we are locking up too many of our youth. Thanks. |
Eric
posted 8:03 PM on 06/16/09
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I live in TJ, and havew worked here for nearly 10 yrs. After listneing to the coments of Geoffry I would say that they are accurate. Except for the occasional roadside search parties(Army and Federales), and constant patrolling there are no obvious signs of any war. We have, however, had casualities of the cartels in our neighborhood. Not in broad daylight, but in the nighttime hours, and quietly. The cartels are active in our area. Human trafficing for the most part, as we are in very close proximity to the border. Many of the people in our area are directly involved in this business. Noone talks about the cartels. It's as though they don't exist. Just just some info for you, an to let you know your statement are true as far as the danger here. I'm white. My wife is Mexicana. We are missionaries here. We have had NO problems. |
Dean Helzer
posted 10:11 AM on 06/16/09
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The editor repeated parrots the irrelevant ATF nonfactoid of "90% of successful traces". How is it that any intelligent adult then neglects to mention the relevant # on weapons in the total pool? # used/# siezed/# not submitted for a US trace. So if 100000 weapons used in drug related gun attacks in Mexico results in 50000 weapons siezed, and in 1000 US trace request where X were of US origin that is actual information. Then disclose that 95% of those were stolen from lawful owners. Forgetting about the 90% of weapons NOT of US origin is just leftist BS. There is every kind and type of gun in endless quantity floating around Central/South America and available for sale to wealthy narco terrorists. The Pablo wants an automatic weapon he buys one from the South. Or more typically from a crooked Mexican gov't "official". The Obama generation "discovered" this "problem" as a tactic in their war on personnally owned firearms in the US. |
Iowa
posted 7:18 AM on 06/16/09
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There is no accurate estimate of the number of weapons in use. We have to go with what statistical information we have, and ATF has it. I realize you are throwing out numbers to explain a statistical point, but I suspect people in law enforcement would find the figure of 100,000 weapons in use by narcotraffickers to be off at least by an order of 10. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:44 AM on 06/16/09
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I believe that the only way to overcome the narco problem in Mexico is to allow the Military to be the only law enforcement entity in Mexico and disolve all police forces in Mexico. |
hector lopez
posted 3:30 PM on 06/15/09
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This is a terrible propaganda story. The true intent for this war is not to stop drug flow into the U.S. but to outlaw guns in the U.S.. I think people not aware of the propaganda need to be educated to understand the truth. The truth is simple. Drugs are the gateway crime. Our systems have created criminals out of an unstoppable supply and demand economic scenario. The more it is fought as a war, the more criminals and soldiers are created. All the drugs flowing into the U.S. need to be regulated through the FDA and administered by the pharmaceutical companies. The producers, both foreign and domestic, need to become legitimate vendors, and this war needs to come to an end. Anything less than this is unjust and inhumane. As an analyst of this situation for many decades, it seems apparent this may have to become the first war where it is necessary for both sides to surrender. The traffickers need to surrender and become legitimate business men and women. And the governments fighting this war need to give amnesty to the fugitives they are fighting against so as to offer reform in the means of helping them to setup businesses and distribution channels to the pharmaceutical industries. I believe this is the only solution to the problem which makes sense. All other paths are inhumane and holocaust like. Drugs which are currently illegal cannot not exist, and demand for them cannot not exist (pure logic). People fighting against illegal drugs are in denial. Our government has been increasing the fight against drugs for decades and the problem is not better, it is worse. People are going to produce them, and people are going to use them. This means it is a business, and this means it is time to legitimize the business and accept it. Now if everyone truely agrees this to be the solution, the next question is this: What do we do with all the decades of resources created to fight against drugs? I don't have an answer to that question, but if this is the only reason the war continues, I can predict what will happen. The same thing that happens to all war machines created throughout history that became inhumane and unjust... it will fail at a cost of millions of lives. |
ozone
posted 6:12 PM on 06/13/09
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If high school kids have enough time and money to sit around and take drugs, we have other problems. Mexico has problems, but this lack of American accountability needs to be better understood and reported. What are the roots of this American culture of sitting around, doing drugs, and thinking nothing about the hell its creating? At the same time its interesting that it seems the same people that argue for the legalization of drugs are for the criminalization of guns. Laws are a statement of the deepest social no-nos. Legalizing drugs is another way of saying it is socially acceptable to consume them, as we have with alcohol. |
Geoff W
posted 11:55 AM on 06/10/09
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Excellent reporting by Mr. Marosi. He is reporting on a very serious social, moral and political problem. Unfortunately, the story has been largely ignored by the TV media here who prefer to have talking heads repeating tiresome and ultimately meaningless poltical debates. We deserve better than being forced to watch CNN, MSNBC, etc. rehash boring political ideological diatribes. We need more people like Mr. Marosi to speak up and inform us. My family used to travel extensively in throughout Baja California and Baja California Sur. We no longer do so because of the drug violence. One thing that I am disappointed about the reporting, even the good reporting, is the failure to point out that that the main ingredient for the drug trade and the drug violence is the insatiable demand for drugs in the US. At some point we need to drastically curb the use of drugs in the US. If it is wrong to increase global warming by the use of carbon-based fuels, how much worse is it to buy drugs that are destroying the lives of innocent people in Mexico, Guatamala, Columbia, etc. Time to admit that drug use is not a victimless crime and treat it as a very, very serious social and moral crime that is much worse than driving a SUV or eating meat. |
Bill Reavey
posted 11:08 PM on 06/09/09
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This political cartoon says a lot about gun violence in Mexico. http://www.markfiore.com/political/gringo-guns |
Chelsea
posted 8:24 PM on 06/09/09
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Unfortunately, Mr. Fiore takes a bit of an analytical short-cut and mis-quotes the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives analysis of U.S. gun presence in Mexico. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:58 AM on 06/15/09
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Yet again we must all realize that even if more Americans stop purchasing illegal drugs we must also realize that now the cartels have money to burn and although it will weaken them slightly, we must remember that drugs are not only being bought by the United States of America but by other nations across the world again if we are to end this before it gets out hand as violent and unimaginable as it sounds we must create a greater violence by uniting human kind against this PLAGUE AMONGST HUMANITY before it grows and ends all who do not follow their will. |
The Chapter
posted 6:44 PM on 06/08/09
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Ah yes humanity is yet again ignoring more acts against humanity and yet this time they are acts of anarchy attempting to bring down the government of Mexico sorry I for got how to put the symbol of the e, but I digress if the drug lords are not stopped the United States will have a larger issue then the Taliban on their hands. For these drug trades are organized and funded by other drug trades across Central America and South America again humanity must end this up rising of a world rebellion before its to late nations across the world will have to participate in this to truly end this war or it will grow and will rise to become strong enough to end even the greatest of nations. |
The Chapter
posted 6:29 PM on 06/08/09
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why is the continued flow of arms still streeming down to mexico from the us.these can be traced back to the retailer.with serial numbers on weapons.it's all about money/profit no regulation.what screening of individuals is in place for purchase of said "high powered" weapons.they are not going "dove" hunting.limit the sales of "high velocity" wapons |
octaviana de san juan
posted 1:04 AM on 06/08/09
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The short answer is that the United States Constitution protects the right to keep and bear arms, and the debate over what that means for gun regulation has not been definitively resolved by the courts. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 12:52 PM on 06/08/09
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will the US train special forces to enter Mexico to fight drug traffickers? |
rico rosario
posted 8:20 PM on 06/06/09
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Has there been any arrests made in the killing of the four Chula Vista teens in Tijuana last month? |
Doc Ervin
posted 11:13 AM on 06/06/09
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None so far. Mexican authorities have said they suspect drug ties are involved. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:31 PM on 06/08/09
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the topados are winning la familia michoacana are all crazy this is something new |
payaso
posted 10:15 AM on 06/06/09
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Here is a direct quote from one of YOUR OWN FEATURES, about the spilling over of the drug war into Guatemala: "The gangs are also ferrying military-style weapons north into Mexico to fight Calderon's forces and opposing gangsters while also vying to take over street sales in Guatemala. Some of the weapons are left over from the wars that the United States helped fight in Central America -- including here in Guatemala, which is still recovering from its 36-year civil war." Journalists need to stop their attempts to conflate the "drug war" issue with gun control in the U.S., and either come up with hard evidence or shut up about this particular fiction. I've seen no comment from the series editors about this...it lowers your credibility not to. |
ignatzh
posted 10:23 PM on 06/05/09
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Sorry you missed our responses to the issue of gun smuggling from the United States. If you scroll down, you'll find numerous references to the arrests and prosecutions made by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, related to Project Gunrunner, which is cracking down on trafficking of guns purchased in the United States. The U.S. Department of Justice and the U.S. Department of State have said they believe that U.S. arms are contributing to violence south of the border. Neither agency has said this is the sole source of arms, nor that the warfare is entirely caused by these arms. The drug war in Mexico is complex, with many factors driving it, primary among them the demand for illicit narcotics in the United States. But corruption and institutional weaknesses in Mexico also are a big factor. So is the weapons market, legal or illegal. It's our hope readers such as you can weigh the factors and decide for themselves. Analyst Jorge Chabat, from Mexico, offers some interesting insights on strategies to help Mexico out of its plight. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:07 PM on 06/08/09
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Hi, I would like to know, where can one purchase's grenade, grenade launchers, or RPG here in the U.S. as your report states? Are all these arms from the U.S. or is there other countries involved, Such as Cuba? Is El Salvador selling off unused surplus? Your report make it seem one goes over to the local gun store and happily purchases a case of grenades. Then walks across the border with them. Should we ban grenade sales ? I respect your report on the issues the Mexican Government faces, but your report takes a direct and indirect swipe at our 2nd amendment. The only entities here in the U.S. that can obtain grenades are the U.S. military. When was the last time we had a crime involving a grenade here in the U.S.? Were all the serial numbers on those weapons check ? How about the serial numbers on the grenades? This is one of the reasons I canceled my subscription to your paper. |
Ed Navarro
posted 2:52 PM on 06/05/09
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We have reported both on the sale of semi-automatic and conventional weaponry from U.S. states, and the presence of military-grade weaponry in Mexico that may be coming from Central America, Asia and other nations. A particularly sinister cache of weapons was found at the scene of a shooting in Guatemala recently. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:50 PM on 06/08/09
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I would like to see any real factual evidence that there are weapons flowing out of US to Mexico. I live in south and work in Ca. I have seen guns on news documentaries and I do not believe that you can document that these weapons are coming from US.These type of weapons in the US are in the hands of collectors who are law abiding citizens. LOOK SOUTH OF MEXICO |
michael mann
posted 5:48 AM on 06/05/09
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It depends on what you consider proof. This is what the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has reported in its efforts to stem gun-smuggling from the U.S. into Mexico: |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:40 PM on 06/08/09
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This drug war in Mexico seems absolutely reasonable. Recently I left a rehab after a 12 year heroin addiction. The diversity of the drug users around me was amazing. The attraction of drugs is so strong, so compelling, truly better than love, sex or success...until the money is gone! Anyway, this drug war in Mexico seems absolutely reasonable. I cut everything out of my life so I could throw my money at drug dealers. Drugs must be the best business in the world and we American love it like it's our birthright and if these poor Mexicans want to supply to our "market", it seems worth killing the competition. |
C NYC User
posted 9:27 PM on 06/04/09
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Thanks for your candor on the topic. Congratulations on your sobriety and good luck with your recovery. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:38 PM on 06/08/09
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I don't know if I could actually argue for legalization of all drugs, but certainly the legalization of marijuana would ruin a great source of income for the cartels. Please, legalize it soon! |
Spliff
posted 7:26 AM on 06/04/09
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What is the probability, if any, that the US will send its troops to combat cartels in Mexican territory? |
Pancho
posted 7:49 PM on 06/03/09
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The probability is infinitesimal to non-existent. You would be hard-pressed to find any decision-maker in Washington who would take seriously the scenario of sending troops into (invading?) the territory of one of our biggest trading partners. Mexico has fought occupations by Spain, France and the United States, and would never tolerate foreign troops on its soil. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 12:14 PM on 06/04/09
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Legalization is the only answer.In 11 years of law enforcement I have not heard one valid argument against it other than it will put a lot of my union brothers out of work. This seems like a small price to pay. |
LA cop
posted 12:40 AM on 06/03/09
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Here we go again. The "problem" is only 40 billion dollars that the US expends on drugs every year. Well, I am not sure if the amount is lower or, even higher. But, as far as some simple research shows, most countries around the world have a GDP lower than that; only about 80 countries have a GDP larger that 40,000,000,000. Does that give you a clue? Those countries have armies and support and pay for everything, can you imagine if the budget is dedicated for weapons and bribes how far can it go? |
Ramon G.
posted 3:53 PM on 06/02/09
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Though it sounds nice, I think the subtitle of this series was poorly chosen. It suggests that the drug war is an outside problem. It's not a drug war "at our doorstep;" this is OUR mess. |
Phunk
posted 6:46 AM on 06/02/09
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Good point, and one we've made in various stories: drug use in the U.S. is fueling this problem. Gun smuggling from southwestern states likewise is contributing. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:09 PM on 06/02/09
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Which cartel is winning the war in cuidad Juarez, and the state of Chihuahua, and Tijuana? it seems that el chapo is fighting everyone and making Mexico unsafe. |
AORA
posted 10:20 PM on 06/01/09
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Too early to declare a "winner" in Juarez. The toll on civil society there has been unusually heavy. There have been indications that Chapo told his lieutenants to fight fire with fire, on both sides of the border. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 12:21 PM on 06/02/09
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This is how you end this drug war in Mexico: Most of you who have commented in this forum do drugs(educated guess). So US citizens will have to stop consuming drugs. Capital punishment or life imprisonment for drug traffickers and kidnapers in Mexico. Increase of projects for economic growth in poor areas of mexico. This will create jobs for poor people, who are the soldiers and do most of the killings. Also, a question for the administrator: El Teo |
tres letras
posted 2:36 PM on 06/01/09
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i forgot who did say in an interview few years back...when the usa stops buying drugs...mexico or any other country, will stop exporting.it looks to me,that we should go back to school to re-learn economics 101(supply and demand). |
raymond cano sr.
posted 12:18 AM on 05/28/09
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President Calderon of Mexico said in a BBC interview that "US graft adds to Mexico's woes". Will you be taking this series north of the border, to where the drugs are delivered? |
Louweegie272
posted 7:19 AM on 05/27/09
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We have, and we will. Check out Scott Kraft's article on a county in Texas where the sheriffs seem to be in perpetual trouble involving graft. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:19 AM on 05/27/09
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Hi, I am planing to join the us BORDER PATROL, this year I am taking upon myself to additional tactical training to better prepare to this situation.My question is should the BORDER PATROL should be military train,and what is your advice? |
jose l betancourt
posted 6:16 PM on 05/26/09
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"over my 15 years of being on this earth there has been gang wars all over mexico and drug wars " |
jubal
posted 7:50 AM on 05/26/09
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I've been hearing from the media so much about Mexico's drug war that it's become published news just about every day. What i just want to know is, hasn't that been a problem for Mexico just as long as the U.S. has had the problem of illegal border crossings? The only difference now is that Mexico's drug cartel is more vocal than ever about the terror their spreading in their own backyard. |
Ben N.
posted 5:02 AM on 05/26/09
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Its demand and supply. There would be no drug war if there were no drug users. There would be no drug users if these drug addicts live their lives as true human beings. Humans are not just the bodies the drugs satisfy. The lack of the spiritual dimension in their lives force them to find solace in drugs and sex and booze. The ONLY solution that requires no money is for GOD to be brought back into the classrooms. The ACLU and the supreme court are as much to blame for the drug epidemic as the suppliers. In the name of "free speech" both of them have eliminated the influence of God in our society. Without God, man becomes his own god. Man's god is the god of this world, the god that promotes temporary pleasure at the expense of permanent pain and suffereing. |
Dodong
posted 12:07 PM on 05/25/09
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I'm really tired of this BS of guns being bought in Arizona to be sent down to fuel the Mexican drug wars. Prove it! Who are the dealers? Who are the buyers? Fully automatic weapons sold to Mexican shills? You're nuts. Stolen American guns going to Mexico? I can see that! Crime rate in the border states is huge due to drugs. However it is illegal to own fully auto weapons in the US with special tax stamp permits. Almost 80%of Americans are all for Closing the US/Mexican border completely. But it won't happen, will it? Why? Because Mexico would implode. Politicians, especially Liberal Socialists will never be able to solve this problem (can't we all just get along?). It will take the US military to solve this problem. American citizens will pay (are paying) a heavy price because of gutless politicians. Sorry, your bleeding-heart LAT stories aren't going to fix anything...won't even sell any papers. Instead of destroying our country, why not put Obama in charge of Mexico? Let's see how well he can fix a third world country instead of turning us into one! |
Randall Thomas
posted 10:12 AM on 05/24/09
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There seems to be a lot of interpretation of the facts reported by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Here is the testimony of William Hoover, assistant director for field operations, about gun smuggling from authorized U.S. dealers in the Southwest to Mexico. It is not true, as many have pointed out, that 90% of guns used by cartels in Mexico are from U.S. sources. That is a mis-statement of Hoover's testimony. Hoover said that, of the guns successfully traced from those submitted by Mexican authorities, 90% were found to be from the United States. There are two important "subset" issues embedded in that statement: first, it encompasses only those weapons submitted for tracing, and second, it describes only the subset of those for which a successful trace was made. In short: there's a lot of guns not in the accounting. That said, ATF's "Operation Gunrunner" has referred for prosecution 795 cases involving 1,658 defendants, including 382 firearms trafficking cases involving 1,035 defendants and more than 12,800 guns. So, however you measure it, ATF believes this is a serious problem. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:43 PM on 05/26/09
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Can the People of Mexico take hold of their government and stop the abuse and corruption? Will a Mexican "George Washington" step forward and bring about an "American" Revolution on Mexican soil? |
RobinH
posted 1:58 AM on 05/24/09
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This may sound shocking BUT what I have learned through experience is that the Mexican people tend to respect - are in awe of - the drug cartel. The fact that this man was praying for the safe shipment of his drugs - his lawbreaking activity - makes sense in Mexico. |
RobinH
posted 1:53 AM on 05/24/09
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Mexico is under siege because of its corrupt government. That same corrupt government uses the USA as its welfare program exporting their poor for U.S. taxapayers to care for. FIX MEXICO and deport lawbreakers back to their home country. |
RobinH
posted 1:46 AM on 05/24/09
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i think legalizing drugs will solve most problems. What people dont realize is that you dont have to have dreads and listen to bob marley all day to do drugs. i am a highschool student and i would say that 75% of the kids in my school do drugs, and i go to a rich, highly rated, blue ribbon school. The varsity football players all do drugs, even the band geeks and the good smart kids. If we legalize drugs things will pretty much just be the same as they are now, we would just lower crime rates. Doing drugs does not turn you into a bad person, and we can all live a normal life with the legalization of drugs. They will always be around no matter what the government tries to do so it might as well be legalized. |
Kaitlyn
posted 6:24 PM on 05/21/09
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We can take the profit out of the recreational drug trade right now if we wanted to. We could put money in the public coffers by taxing the recreational drug trade and do it right now if we wanted to. I have to wonder why we don't want to do this? |
Rob
posted 8:50 AM on 05/20/09
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For those who are opposed to the legalization of drugs hear me out. I understand that merely taking the drug profits from the cartels would not be the nail in the coffin. To think that if America were to legalize drugs the problems would vanish is pure ignorance. However, it's equally as ignorant to think that it wont GREATLY hinder the cartels influence. By making drugs legal in the US the cartels would lose 90% of their funding and an internal war would break out between cartels and inside the individual cartels. **SIMPLY** stated, they would crumble. And to those who say, "well why don't we legalize kid nappings, because the cartels to that too!" Really? I mean, really? That's the best argument you have? |
Eric
posted 8:52 AM on 05/19/09
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PART 2 In the end, it's not about you and me - six pack Joe and Jane - it's about perpetuating the "War Effort" that perpetuates the pouring of MONEY into "Big Government." The Intelligence Community of this country has enough high-tech gadgetry to do just about anything. With one key-stroke, they can find out where this email originated. Two more key-strokes and they will have me profiled from birth to present time including my medical history, banking history, and maybe even have a psychological profile for me based on spending, health and writing traits. It's about time we stop the charade. It's about time we use technology to freeze assets from these Forbes 500 Drug Cartels (it just takes a couple of key-strokes). It's about time we use technology to imprint microscopic bar codes on every piece that goes into the manufacture of a military weapon - it exists under US Patent #5907144 - to make forensics and tracing that much easier than a serial number on the body of the weapon. I could go on and on, but won't. We must wake up to the fact that if Big Government really wanted to stop the flow of illegal drugs, they could easily accomplish this task using current technology. But the truth is that Big Government will not eradicate illegal drugs because it's bad for business - if they kill the golden goose of illegal drugs, what excuse will Big Government use to ask for more MONEY? |
Open Your Eyes
posted 8:34 AM on 05/19/09
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PART 1: If you look at the bigger picture - the problem with drugs is MONEY. Illegal drug sales produce large amounts of MONEY. The war against drugs requires large amounts of MONEY. You cannot have one without the other. The Government apparatus spends an obscene amount of MONEY combatting the flow of illegal drugs. The Drug Cartels spend an obscene amount of MONEY influencing the Government apparatus to look the other way. In reality, we do not have a "Drug War." What we do have is an "Economic War." Combatting illegal drugs is Big Business - it employs countless of anti-drug agents (increasing an already bloated "Big Government" apparatus) - who use expensive high-tech equipment manufactured by stock market companies who use egregious amounts of MONEY to lobby (i.e.: influence) the US Congress and Senate that increased spending in high-tech gadgetry is needed to combat this social ill. Congress bites and orders Big Government to buy more "high-tech stuff" sending the stock price of the high-tech gadget company to new highs on Wall Street (i.e.: MONEY in the form of dividends) and thus perpetuating the need to continue influencing Congress, Senate and the General Public that we must do and spend all we can to "combat this social ill." On the flip side, where do you think the Drug Cartels are buying all their 50 caliber sniper rifles, anti-tank guns, AR-15's, AK-47's, grenades, and high-tech communication equipment? At your local K-Mart? Of course not! They are buying this equipment straight from the U.S. Government through so-called "rogue" agents that are in reality honest american citizens employed by the government to carry out the government's dirty deed. The dirty deed is to continue "seeding" the drug cartels with just enough equipment to make them a threat to local law enforcement (they only carry handguns and shotguns), who will then call upon the military (i.e. Big Government) for support because the military also carries AR-15's, FAL's, and 50 caliber machine guns). At the end of the day, what's really happening is that Big Government, from whatever side of the border you choose, is using the "War on Drugs" as an excuse to pursue their own agenda which is to promote the mantra that "Big Government" is the good for you because Big Government knows what you need, even before you know that you needed it. And because Big Government is so intelligent, Big Government will appropriate and pour egregious amounts of MONEY into its own apparatus to perpetuate itself. CONTINUED ON PART 2 |
Open Your Eyes
posted 8:34 AM on 05/19/09
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If the violence is, as the video series "Introduction" implies, largely gang members killing other gang members, why does the body count matter? The number of persons in society using marijuana or cocaine, while also functioning normally (except when the law adds dysfunction into casual users lives with its mind numbing sense of financially self serving justice) leads one to consider that casual use may not be the pariah it has been made out to be by moral purists. These illegal organizations are fostered by prohibition and facilitated, as with alcohol, by a public which considers the commodity (contrary to government) to be entertainment with an acceptable risk to harm. By offering a temporary reprieve, drug use is not always dysfunctional, or abusive, when it does not deprive or inhibit one from attaining life conditions acceptable for themselves. As a counter argument, one must understand that life is, or can be, difficult and accept that through certain manners of drug use one may be retarding their time and event dependent endeavors for success or happiness by proceeding with a handicap. |
GeMiJa
posted 6:10 AM on 05/19/09
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I live in laredo, tx border to nuevo laredo mexico which in late 2004 or so, Los Chachos cartel that ruled and governed the mexican city were completely wipeout by the Zetas cartel which now in fact are taking over other border cities. If you want to know how much devastation a drug war can leave behind all you have to do is visit the city. The economic factor was hit hard until the new cartel took over to rule and govern. I keep hearing and reading that the drug war started in 2007 or so that is nonsense. The Zetas cartel started killing in masses in nuevo laredo since like 2004. Its none of my business or anything just thougth I set the record straight since the people that suppose to provide the news should do it in a factual manner. I have never seen a heavy and deadly combination of firepower and manpower since the Zetas came along. Do a little research and you will find that nuevo laredo was the first city to have been taken over by two "evil" powers the Zetas and the Santisima Muerte. I think both the Zetas cartel and the poeple that lost there lifes deserve a little more credit. The number of people that have been killed in mexicos drug wars should be at least double of what it is now. |
Chris Benavides IV
posted 9:06 PM on 05/17/09
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Indeed, the Zetas started their violence earlier than this series. We are chronicling what has gone on since President Calderon began sending in troops, shortly after his inauguration in December, 2006. We've been covering the rise of the zetas since 2004. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:08 AM on 05/18/09
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What we should be doing is sending more guns into Mexico instead of worrying about guns being smuggled in. The drugs come out, the guns go in. The money flows back and forth. |
Erik
posted 12:30 AM on 05/17/09
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I understand how the drug wars began in Mexico and I understand how it is currently affecting Tijuana from this site. My question is: How did the drug wars reach Tijuana and when did the first incidents occur? I suppose it is because the city is near the border and would be a good place for business to take place. Yet, not all cities near the border have this problem. I am interested in the history of the violence in relation to Tijuana. Thank you |
Samantha
posted 10:30 PM on 05/15/09
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The ongoing war between drug cartels in Mexico is for illegal drug routes leading to the States which is "the" market for drugs. The Mexican Military and Security forces are waging a parallel war with the cartels and trying to enforce security and stop the drug trade. Margins in the drug trade are reported enormous (a Mexican drug lord has recently made Forbes' filthy rich list) and cartels have all the cash in the world at their disposal to buy immunity and whatever armaments they need. Drug use in Mexico is minimal compared to that north of the border. You can hire more and more border patrol officers and raise higher and higher "walls" but drug will go on arriving to the US, maybe dearer, as long as demand keeps strong. Stop or at least reduce drug demand and some kind of solution to this problem will loom. As long as society does not condemn drug use, drug use will continue increasing. And drug pushing has gone on for a long time now. Where did Msssrs Clinton and Obama get their drugs in their varsity years? Was it difficult for them? Did they get caught? Did they inform on their purveyors? |
M Moneymaple
posted 4:22 PM on 05/14/09
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it would seem you should be safer in the photographing because the cartels might want the publicity your photographs give them. |
dan mccoy
posted 7:42 AM on 05/14/09
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we need to legalize drugs and the violence will stop. |
miles
posted 9:00 PM on 05/13/09
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the question is, what is our generation going to look like if we do legalize drugs? i mean its illegal, and we are still having drug problems in schools. im mean i go to a christian school and every thing, and five of my best friends got caught with drugs. im only a freshman in high school, but just use common sence america. what would this generation look like if we did legalize drugs? i want the people who say to legalize drugs to think about this. i dont mean to sound all patriotic and all, but even a frehman can stand up for his country. |
nick s.
posted 4:42 PM on 05/13/09
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Why do we as a nation try to export the problems. How many people die in the U.S. in drug related crimes? I would take a guess and say that it is many times more than have died in Mexico. We do not report on this. Just on how bad it is in Mexico. |
William Baker
posted 3:15 PM on 05/13/09
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Why can we not prosecute Sureno gang members and Mongol bikers as foreign terrorists loyal to the Mexican Mafia? Why are we instead helping these foreign terrorists invade U.S. "main street" spots that resist their influence? Cops here worked hard to ruin any formal competitition, such as using RICO to go after the rebel Norteno gang structures that defected from, opposed them, and tried to dismantle them in the North-- but they left a huge gap for legions of Mexican Mafia to come invade, and didn't try to stop them--- WHY?? The Fruitvale Oakland area and spots like it throughout California and Texas are even more of a gang bloodbath now. If the U.S. would back their own citizens before letting foreign predators run the streets, a so-called "peace" could be brokered and this stupid violent war would lose much of its intensity. |
Nobodys Biz
posted 1:19 PM on 05/13/09
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The standard of proof for prosecution as a foreign terrorist would be nearly impossible to meet. It's much easier to prosecute under any number of consipracy, trafficking, RICO and gang-injunction charges. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:00 PM on 05/13/09
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Is the narco problems eventually getting out of control? |
Al Mejia
posted 11:27 AM on 05/13/09
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That depends on what you mean by "control," and what you mean by "problem." Clearly, border cities such as Tijuana and Juarez are having quite a time controlling crime. And the U.S. still has too many willing purchasers of illegal narcotics. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:58 PM on 05/13/09
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why do you try and stop them if you no they will continue to smuggle drugs |
chelsea
posted 9:06 AM on 05/13/09
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I know this may sound dumb and maybe a bit rash, but would Private security organizations such as Black Water be effective in such a situation? Like, how trained are the Mexican army and police force in battling such relentless foes? |
Matthew Lear
posted 10:09 PM on 05/12/09
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Mexico has a pretty well-trained army that has shown much more ability to avoid graft than police departments. One big exception, however, was the arrest of Gen. Jose de Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, the nation's drug czar, in 1997. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:38 AM on 05/13/09
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Let's be realistic the war on drugs is impossible to win , why not thinking about legalization ,start by legalizing marihuana by doing that a major chunk of the cartels profits will be taken away that translates into power taken away |
VICTOR M.MALAGON
posted 6:23 PM on 05/12/09
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I really think that legalizig drugs would be a major step in droping the violence rate drasticly.I live in europe where drug laws are more free than in the US, even the use of marijuaa is legal and the violence over drugs is almost 0% compared to North America. I ve lived in LA for 15 years and being in a gang there, I have seen a lot going on over drug traficking and drug territory, a lot of people had their lives and lives of others destroyed over this. I strongly believe that if the government takes controll over drug distribution and gets paid taxes over it the cartells and the gangs would simply go out of bussines, and the revenue from the drugs should go to education, pubic and social services. In otherwords to the benefit of all people not only to few who use that revenue to gain more power that brings more violece, coruption and rothens society. But where high profits are made public pinion desn't always count. In rellity, the government of the US uses the carels as an excuse of making there own game plan work, the US has always made hight profits of it's stock market and the traficking of drugs, all those money made of illigal drugs sells, do end up in the american economy, for all those who beleve that the US went to Afganistan just to hunt for Osama, do not forget that ever since amercan troops entered the country heroin production has been raised to 1000 times than before,sm with Vietnam, Columbi and so on, Now the US would simply sit back and wait itill situation in Mexico gets really bad, then offcourse the mxican govornment would ask for help and the good uncle Sam will go there take contoll, pay the same guys who they are fighting to run drugs for them. the stoy is always the same in the media they say we hav to stop them but we need more money from the budget to catch those guys the actually pay. |
P. Petrov
posted 2:18 PM on 05/11/09
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The comment made by your speaker said that 90 to 95% of the guns used in Mexico's drug crimes come from the US. This is not true; research recently released indicates only 17% of the guns come from the US. You should do better research before you publish numbers that mislead, and you should correct your video. Greg |
greg
posted 9:55 PM on 05/10/09
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The correct citation should be that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives estimates that "over 90% of the firearms that have either been recovered in, or interdicted in transport to Mexico, originated from various sources within the United States." |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:19 PM on 05/11/09
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It seems much of this conflict has to with economics rather than the war itself. This conflict has been going go for along time, which means these cartels have strong sources of income. I'm not for drugs, but legalizing these drugs will allow Mexican and U.S. enforcement to regulate and control drug transactions and get taxes from the new source. Keeping drugs illegal only empowers drug cartels. This is the same conflict the U.S. had with prohibition in 1920s and gangs ran the streets. Once again, legalize the drugs for the sake of South, Central and North American's stability. There is no good rationale to keep these drugs illegal. |
Nolan H
posted 9:36 PM on 05/09/09
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As a kid growing up in the US during the 1950's and 60's parents were committed to marriage, family and their faith. It was common for moms to stay at home and care of their children, yes even the older ones. Most parents tried hard to keep wedding vows, yes and sometimes just for the well being of the children. Many families attended church. In the late 1960's drastic change came to the US. Today divorce is normal, if the couple even bother to get married. Living together is normal. In my growing up this was unacceptable. No commitment to anyone is acceptable today. The parent’s priority and commitment to the family went to the priority of greed, materialism and self-centeredness. One car garages became two, today it is three. One TV set became two, now one in every room. Houses become bigger and bigger. Parents were in charge of their kids. When kids got in trouble the parents gave discipline. Neighbors helped keep an eye out on your kids and vise-versa. Now know one knows or trust their neighbors. School teachers were committed and allowed to discipline the students. The schools say they can not discipline today for fear of retribution from a parent or the government. Many school boards are not committed to the kids today. Education instead of The Priority, has become a low priority. When was the last time you heard of a kid “flunking” and grade or not being promoted to the next grade? Sporting and other events have taken priority in many schools. Now the government takes charge when you discipline your children by the threat of or actual removing the kids from your home. Church families helped out, now many families do not even attend church. Today many kids are on their own both day and night with no supervision or accountability. They wander the streets and the parents do not care. It all starts with total commitment to the family and God. We have lost the battle of keeping families in tact the way it was meant to be. We have been and will continue to loose the battle with drugs. The Government does not believe in total commitment, but control. The only way we can win the drug battle, other than the stupid idea of legalizing all drugs, is for the government to stay out of governing the raising of children. The parents must go back to a full responsibility and total commitment of raising their kids. Moms need to stay home for the kids and raise them. The parents need to accept a lower standard of living if need be. Parents must set the example to their kids and educate the dangers of drugs. And yes, give consequences if they do use them. The drug war would diminish to a mush lesser degree, but unfortunately the criminals will not. Unless the criminal repents and does a 180 degree change in their evil ways they will find another way to feed their greed and selfishness. |
jclagg
posted 8:50 AM on 05/09/09
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Mexico has had many revolutions in the past; I think that in the future you will see the public grow tired of corrupt officials and drug cartels. The mistake Mexicans make is electing an official claiming to stand for the people, but the country reverts back to what it once was. Once the Mexican government loses total control of the country, the United States who is a responsive country will have no choice but to militarily enforce the chaos that is Mexico. Until then, since we’re not a preventative country, is to enforce harsher laws and the death penalty. California’s prison population is larger than some states. Let’s admit it, most of the prisoners deserve the death penalty, but California is so liberal and is too concerned with human rights. If you study Asian countries, you will see that they have less crime pertaining to illegal drugs, there cities are also cleaner and safer. In Asian countries such as Indonesia, you can receive a maximum penalty of death for drug dealing, and a maximum of 15 years prison for drug use. Since the legalization of marijuana will probably become a reality before stricter laws, all we can do is educate the youth on the consequences of illegal drugs. |
anonymous
posted 4:59 PM on 05/08/09
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is it only wealthy people who are being kidnapped by these thugs or is just ordinary folks being snatched up too for money. do not the drugs lords know that the Mexican and US governments will not stop fighting them until they give up or disband all together or are they that stupid? Someone inform me somehow or whatever. |
Mr. Daniel R. Phipps
posted 11:20 AM on 05/08/09
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IT'S HARD TO GIVE YOUR OPINIOIN WHEN A LOVED ONE IS IN ALL THIS. THERE ARE MANY FAMILIES WITH BROTHERS AND COUSINS FRIENDS IN THE MAFIA ..THEY ALL THINK THAT THEY WILL BE BETTER OFF JOINING IN THE CARTELS. |
UNA WERKA DE COAHUILA
posted 5:38 PM on 05/06/09
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Why do you think the some people from Mexico think there's no problem with what is going on with there own country? My family that lives there.They act as if its okay and that its not that bad. I just can't believe how ignorant they are. |
Distraught
posted 12:20 PM on 05/06/09
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The usa needs to wake up legalize weed and all your cartels will dissapear and WE WILL REAP THE PROFITS no more dafficit!! |
bek
posted 11:22 AM on 05/04/09
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Legalizing hard drugs defies logic. I read comments from narcotic investigators and they're dissastified with the fact that no head way has been made to stop the illegal use of drugs and the violence that it creates. You legalize hard drugs and guaranteed that more young children will be using them. At the very least we have some sort of deterence now. We must not throw in the towel and give up. The education begins at home and carries over into the schools. However, we need to look at our prison population and see how many of those convicts received too harsh a sentence and how many can be re-habilitaded. There also needs to be a tougher screening of drugs coming into the US. Mexicos' drug problem is intertwined with the large population of poor people. To some, the drug cartels give some hope? Mexico has to take care of their poor period. |
giley
posted 3:17 PM on 05/03/09
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In response to Francisco Aguirre, You refer to Mexico as a burning house, well then I refer to the government as the arsonists who for many years have allowed all these things to happen. Some of these weapons that are being used by the cartels are coming from the Mexican Military, also I was reading a story about 2 of Mexicos most wanted that were caught in a shootout,arrested and on the way to jail,the one cop transporting them says that they escaped. There are also stories about high power criminals being sentenced to life terms, only to be seen ayear later out on the street doing what they were doing in the first place. And why are there no wanted posters of these cartel leaders or rewards offered by the Mexican Government?? Because they are all dirty..Before we help Mexico extinguish the fire we need to know they are not adding more fuel to it. Oh yeah and stop using drugs............ |
Juanito Smith
posted 12:49 PM on 05/02/09
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President Caldron of Mexico said in a BBC interview that "US graft adds to Mexico's woes". This was never reported here, why is this? |
Louweegie272
posted 7:55 AM on 05/02/09
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You all guys seen really naive.. Mexico is in such a mess because it is full of easily seen Corruption at all levels... But the USA is worths... The problem is that you guys are to blind or to naive to see it or admit it... If not Explain to me how came drugs enter so easy into the USA and where all those Narco dollars are invested for the most part. |
Enrique
posted 10:18 AM on 05/01/09
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Who is purchasing the weapons in the US and from where and selling them to Mexican Drug Cartels? Are they being purchased from shops or the military? Is there any corruption in the US regarding this issue? |
Orlando Mejia
posted 12:37 AM on 05/01/09
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the American government thinks that we in the U.S.A are not subject to what happens in Mexico but last month my cousin was kidnapped and our family had to produce the sum of 30,000 dollars in 2 weeks we all helped to get him back but even across the border here in the USA we are extorted by these cartels, I say we bring the monster to them and hunt them down! |
anonymous
posted 2:19 PM on 04/29/09
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Today my family mourns the death of one of our own. My mother's cousin was a police officer in Tijuana. He was brutally murdered yesterday by a group of faceless cowards. How many more will die before this is over? |
Erik Higa
posted 9:22 AM on 04/29/09
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what is the main difference between the us war on drugs and the mexican war on drugs? |
chere
posted 10:23 PM on 04/28/09
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I'm American and live in Mexico and have for the past 27 years. In my opinion it is only going to get worse before it gets better believe me. There is going to be a domino effect and the killing will become widespread into the US as territorial drug markets get taken over by the Mexican cartels, unless something is done. |
Greg
posted 6:19 PM on 04/20/09
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If your neighbor´s house is on fire, and It doesn`t have the tools to put the fire out.... What do you think It would be wiser? Build a bigger fence in your house and pretend nothing is happening Or help your neighbor so the fire doesnt jump to your house.... Thats exactly the case in here. |
Francisco Aguirre
posted 6:58 AM on 04/20/09
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I see these story's all the time in the L.A. times and in magizine's and wonder if we(as in u.s. law force's and branch's of the army) are going to get involved? |
Ralph Jhonson
posted 9:59 PM on 04/19/09
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I think that one of the reasons why this situation in mexico is still going on because the mexican government pays pretty much nothing to their police compared to druglords. Another reason is when police get caught by druglords, they get their head chopped off but when drug guys get caught they just get a slap in the hand. police should be doing the same... thanx |
m1guel
posted 11:15 AM on 04/18/09
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To those who think legalizing drugs is the answer, do you then think that we should legalize kidnapping as well, since the cartels are doing that as well? How naive and simplistic to think that the drug cartel will go away if we just legalize "x", whatever "x" the cartels are doing. If you legalize drugs, then get ready to NOT complain when someone left you or your love ones paralysed from the neck down when his/her car hit you or your love ones blindsided while he/she was high on drugs. And don't go to the ER when your brain hemorraged from repeated drug use and ask us to foot the bill. This is not a scare tactic. I studied neuroscience in grad school and I have seen plenty of brain slides where these patients damaged their brain or even accidentally killed themselves from OD. |
Needless Debate
posted 6:58 PM on 04/17/09
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The ONLY solution is to completely legalize drugs. That way the drug trade can be regulated and brought under control, rather than driven underground and out of control. The crime associated with it WILL stop. If you doubt this, ask yourself: when was the last time you heard of liquor distributors or phamaceutical companies shooting it out to resolve disputes or bribing government officials? It doesn't happen because liquor and pharmaceuticals are legal. For those of you advocate more harsh penalties, that is an anti-American policy. What do you want, dictatorship in the U.S.? Even that won't stop the drugs, only make the trade more ruthless. Penalties have been increased in the past and the illegal drug trade has continued to expand. It is American self-righteousness/false-righteousness that is responsible for the deadly, evil drug war. The drug warriors have blood on their hands and a terrible burden of conscience, if they are honest enough to admit it. |
Bruce D
posted 12:39 PM on 04/17/09
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"...confiscated a small arsenal, including ... grenades" Grenades? Where are they on sale legally in the U.S.? The weapons involved are diverted from the Mexican military. They may have originated in sales in the U.S. as purchases by the Mexican military. Mexico needs to get its house in order before calling for destruction of freedom in the U.S. Also the Times needs to do better reporting on the actual source, delving deeper rather than failing to do so, so as to support the Times anti-gun agenda. |
Bruce D
posted 12:14 PM on 04/17/09
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Wouldn't legalizing marijuana in the U.S. go a long way to curtailing the crime we all face at the boarder. It seems to me, that by legalizing it, it would: 1) Take away the incentive to smuggle and give profit to the criminals. 2) It would offer a new tax benefit to our government, which could be used to fight the more serious types of crime coming across our boarder. 3) It would reduce the cost of arresting, adjudicating and incarcerating all of the people who will not stop indulging in the act of smoking marijuana! It seems the only people making money, on leaving it illegal, are the cartels, attorneys, and corrupt judges and politicians! It is time to get real and do what is right...take the incentive away and regulate what is NOT going to go away, i.e. the demand to have the right to smoke marijuana in the U.S.!! |
Joel
posted 8:18 AM on 04/16/09
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Every one who sells drugs and takes drugs in America needs to know that this war is the fruit of their labor and addiction. Thank you for starting this project site. I am a musician and once I heard about it I felt obligated to do something. I have written a song called "Mexico City" which helps to raise awareness which I believe could help the project site. You can hear it here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OYP7t1iWpw This is not spam it is my musical comment/opinion. |
Allan C
posted 10:06 AM on 04/15/09
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what is the most profitable drug they sell? |
andy
posted 2:49 AM on 04/15/09
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Well, there ya go! We can't be having our local U.S. gun dealers selling those 50-caliber, anti-aircraft machine guns to the folks down south of the border. I don't care if the drug dealer did give the gun dealer 23 peasent women, 2 tons of coke and fourteen dollars. |
doogle
posted 8:51 PM on 04/14/09
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my brother in-law was kidnapped this past thursday in cd juarez mx. They were first asking for 450K USD and now they are asking for 350K USD. It is very hard to come up with this ammount. Family is fearing the worst. What can we do? |
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posted 8:07 PM on 04/14/09
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You ought to report this to the authorities in Mexico. If he is a U.S. citizen, also report this to the FBI and to the U.S. consulate. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:44 PM on 04/20/09
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You are totally wrong. Drug dealers own the National Office of the DA's. Drug Dealers had put a lot money in mexican politicians. This never would end. Some leaders of the Tijuana Cartel are living in La Jolla and San Diego. Others cross the border to go to LA like nothing. I was in Tijuana last week and ask to some people about the security in the border they just laugh. More over they told me Do you think that a big rig fly or swim I said no of course no. There is your answer, they told me again I respect your expose but you do not what are you talking. You have all your info wrong. |
Mark Brown
posted 8:02 PM on 04/14/09
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who has been the strongest drug kingpin ever from mexico? |
danny
posted 7:37 PM on 04/14/09
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Here I am, an average Joe, watching this Mexican drug war as if it were a Hollywood movie. But in real life, if I were in charge? I'd send in the military. Clearly, unabashedly, the drugs are flowing into America with relative ease...and the world's most powerful country with the most powerful military can't stop it? If that doesn't work, what about legalization? |
Jerry Flattum
posted 4:31 AM on 04/14/09
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I seriously don't see how people think the drug cartels would dry up and go away if the US regulated and legalized drugs. These people are used to making huge sums of money. They deal the drugs because that is where the money is. If the drugs are legalized, the demand will not decrease, only the illegal activities associated with it. Lets assume weed becomes legal. Do you think that ONLY legal pot would be smoked? No, people will grow it in their home and the government can't regulate it at all. And more importantly, the cartels will keep making the drugs. True, they will not make as much, so I suspect they will begin to dabble in other vices, like prostitution or pirated items or whatever. |
Tyler M
posted 8:57 AM on 04/13/09
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You are demonstrating journalism at its finest. The complexity of the relationship between the US and Mexico surfaces in both dramatic and subtle ways throughout this series. We need to understand and you are providing some valuable perspective. |
Phil Schultz
posted 10:53 AM on 04/12/09
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Your never going to defeat the war on drugs but Mexico as well as the U.S. should learn from Asian countries such as Singapore, whom have very harsh laws – if you are caught with drugs, you are liable to be punished by death . Asian prisons are harsh as well allowing only one hour to exercise, the rest of the day you sit in your cell – no television, no nothing. If we don’t make changes, the war will only worsen. |
Brianna
posted 4:32 PM on 04/11/09
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These dead are dead by our hand. It is because of our consumption of illegal drugs that the murders and drug gang activity are taking place in Mexico. Congratulations to us. We think that taking cocaine and marijuana is our right and privilege and find clever justifications for it. We are also buying murder and chaos with our drug money. Let's enjoy our high, murderers! |
Jose Fuentes
posted 10:16 AM on 04/11/09
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Has the US goverent tried to stop the flow of weapons to mexico? |
jay guterrez
posted 4:41 AM on 04/11/09
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I think this issue has more complications than i realize, but i agree wholeheartedly with the legalize it camp. It doesnt make any sense just in terms of the money spent on people in jail, money spent in the courts, money spent on the drug war, and then you have all the people dying in the violence. what else, all the money that would be saved on buying weed could probably save the econonmy in a day. Why is it illegal again? oh yeah, no reason anyone could ever explain. |
Handsomesage
posted 11:33 PM on 04/10/09
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I feel that that idiot Calderon instead of bowing down to international pressure and pursuing this ridiculous war on drugs, for which i might add his military is not ready for, he should be focusing on the real concerns of the people and have a war on Poverty. No one forces anyone to buy drugs and no one should be able to tell someone else what they can and can't put into their own bodies. |
Gabriel Robles
posted 11:31 AM on 04/10/09
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How long do you think it's going to take for the the goverment to take control over the drug lords and stop the smuggling of drugs into the United States? |
Trevor Fitzpatrick
posted 10:28 AM on 04/07/09
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I don't think anyone foresees a day in which there will be no drug smuggling in Mexico. Even the nations that have resorted to totalitarianism and draconian measures have not eradicated trafficking and addiction. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:08 PM on 04/07/09
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I personally think that this is horrible situation that these countries are in. I honestly didnt realize how bad it is along these border states in mexico and the U.S. I am only in 11th grade in the state of Washington and part of my project for this year is an argumentative paper based on immigration. I never knew how much drugs were really involved in the US and Mexico. Thank you for making this website to inform the public on what is going on. We all need to realize what is happening in the U.S. I have been keeping up to date on this situation that is upon our country. Thanks for keeping it fresh and updated! :) |
MacaMB
posted 8:26 PM on 04/06/09
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I live six miles from the Mexican border in AZ. There is corruption on BOTH sides. A Border Patrol agent making around 40K a year can simply wave a truck thru and make five years salary. |
Alovera
posted 5:06 PM on 04/03/09
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Today's story chronicles an interesting county in Texas, where sheriffs have been linked to drug money. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:11 PM on 04/03/09
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The only way to erradicate the drug problem in America is to have a unified Mexican Police govern the US. Mexican police officers die in their duty a few others take the easy but we can´t blame them with a $300 USD monthly salary. But have you ever heard problems with police officers and drug dealers in the US. And we know that the drug gets all the way to Canada. Certainly someone is not doing the work. Another point, we should legalize drugs. Yeah Right, its like giving Telmex to the private idustry. This is a monopoly, all you will be doing is making them stronger. They would start buying better technology for mass producction. Growing weed would become more pofitable then growing grains, thus huge lands will be taken by the multimillion doller idustry of Weed and Coke. There would be a StarWeedBucks in every corner. Perhaps catastrophic, perhaps fantastic. You decide. Don´t do drugs. |
John
posted 4:40 PM on 04/02/09
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Check today's Column One story, which shows how law-enforcement corruption is a problem north of the border, not just in Mexico. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 9:37 AM on 04/03/09
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Why are we sending millions of dollars to Mexico every year where we can use that $700M to hire more border patrol agent and seal up the border?. We can't just throw money around. And it is not solving the problem. Look at Iraq, Afghanistan, middle east in general, it's not working. |
Phong Vu
posted 11:03 AM on 04/02/09
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You know, you guys really are pathetic. It's April 2nd and the last time this page was updated was on March 31st. Your telling me that the capture of the 2nd in command of the Juarez cartel is not update worthy? You writers at the times are completely useless. You should all be fired!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!! AND WHERE IS MY OTHER COMMENT I LEFT!!!!!!!! |
Skippy MacDougal
posted 10:49 AM on 04/02/09
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The story is posted on our site and on our web home page. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:16 PM on 04/02/09
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no downside to legalizing drugs? the downside would be that people will continue to illegally sell drugs to make a profit themselves. those who cannot afford the taxes, or who just want to flatout avoid them, will fuel their power and the government will have the same problem to deal with. only this time, the people who buy the drugs will walk away clean, simply because the authorities will not be able to keep tabs on the "dirty" drugs, and who is supplying them. the problem will grow out of control and those who were for the legalization of drugs will lower thier heads in contempt. |
Average Joe
posted 12:17 PM on 04/01/09
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1. Don't smuggle Weapons to Mexico |
Jesse 10-4
posted 11:15 AM on 04/01/09
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The United States is the largest Viva Mexico!!!!!!! 10-4 |
Jesse 10-4
posted 11:04 AM on 04/01/09
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The BBC ran an interview with President Calderon of Mexico where he states that there are corrupt authorities in America aiding the drug traffickers. Could you write a piece on that? Here is a link. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7971335.stm |
Louis Cioffi
posted 8:01 AM on 04/01/09
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The Los Angeles Times ran an investigation three years ago called "The Long, Crooked Line," that chronicled some 200 indictments of law-enforcement officials along the border. We've written more since. Check back and you'll see another soon. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:22 PM on 04/01/09
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drugs need to be legalized and all convicts in jail for basic drug possession should be freed immediately. |
Howie
posted 2:41 PM on 03/31/09
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why cant we legalize drugs? the high profit would be gone. the folks who want to kill themselves with drugs would do so and thereby rid society of excess population. the government would save billions on the cessation of the drug war and make billions on the taxing of the legal drugs. all would be better with no down side |
Steve Jacobson
posted 10:06 PM on 03/30/09
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it's sad when this stuff keeps going on and on over decades.All the drugs,war, violence |
nina gray
posted 10:34 AM on 03/30/09
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As a US citizen and tax payer US should not send taxpayers money to Mexico. |
Jose Jimenise
posted 7:29 AM on 03/30/09
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Mighty simplistic solution PY Boggs-- change the color of the money and get god involved. lol. |
Chuck Beaty
posted 7:41 PM on 03/29/09
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What the American media is calling a failed state is actually a revolution. The cartels represent more than just the drug trade they represent the poor and oppressed of Mexico whom for generations have mistrusted the corrupt Mexican government. The cartels provide jobs for the poor-the poor that Calderon (whom was elected under fraudulent means)and his predecessors have neglected. The US is only concerned with the possible influx of refugees fleeing the collapse of Mexico..the US is not concerned with Mexicans living under a corrupt and oppressive government and will most likely try and prevent the collapse of Mexico. THE US NEEDS TO STAY OUT..MEXICANS WILL HANDLE THIS ON THEIR OWN..WE WILL NOT TOLERATE IMAGES OF BOMBS OR US SOLDIERS KILLING/MAIMING MEXICAN CIVILIANS! |
NarcoWarrior
posted 7:16 PM on 03/29/09
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The chaos of the Mexican drug wars, coming to a U.S. neighborhood near you...soon! |
KC
posted 8:12 PM on 03/27/09
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my comment was never posted. |
juliett montalvo
posted 10:44 AM on 03/27/09
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Sorry we missed it. I think it's posted below. If not, here it is again: Today's article in the LA Times "U.S. shares blame in Mexico drug violence, senators say" confirms what I have always believed in. The U.S. provides 90% of the weapons used by Mexican Drug Cartels, and is the number one drug consuming nation. The U.S. now promises to aid Mexico in their fight against U.S. weapon smuggling into Mexico and illegal drug trafficking. Hopefully this article will grab the attention of everyone who solely blames Mexico for it's drug violence and trafficking. Mexico is a country with so much rich History and culture. It's beauty attracts tourism from all over the world. Hopefully, the day will come soon when my native country will go past the drug cartel problems it currently shares with the U.S. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:13 PM on 03/27/09
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This was a much more realistic picture of what is happening in the drug and arms trade in Mexico. With all the hoopla lately about guns coming in from the US, this paints a different picture. Grenades, RPGs, and automatic weapons are most certainly coming from other nations, and higher up the chain than what civilians can acquire. I also agree that US drug laws are feeding the monster. If the demand for this black market (via decriminalization or legalization) evaporates, so does funding and support of the organizations killing each other and innocents to run their drugs across the border. |
Greg Havener
posted 5:27 PM on 03/26/09
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For those who missed the reference, this is the story about military-level arms being found in the arsenals of Mexican drug cartels. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:15 PM on 03/27/09
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As a retired detective lieutenant with a 26-year career in the New Jersey State Police—14 as an undercover narcotics officer—I agree with Secretary of State Clinton that, “Clearly what we've been doing has not worked.” However, the reason for all this violence is not America’s “insatiable demand for illegal drugs”; the reason is America’s drug prohibition. US prohibition makes distribution of illicit drugs dangerous thereby artificially inflating the worth of those drugs. From the point of production to point of street sale in the US the increase in value can be more than 17,000 percent. Prohibition makes valueless weeds such as marijuana worth more than gold and heroin worth more than plutonium. Given this obscene profit motive, whole armies of law-enforcers will never be able to stop the violence associated with drug dealers killing each other to control their part of that lucrative market; killing us cops charged with fighting this useless war, killing our children caught in crossfire and drive-by shootings. But there is a way to end the violence. If the US legalizes and regulates these illicit drugs, just as we legalized and regulated alcohol after ending that prohibition, today’s violent drug dealers will face the same extinction as Al Capone did in 1933. www.leap.cc Jack A. Cole |
Jack A. Cole
posted 6:29 AM on 03/26/09
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Somebody needs to explain how it is the USA's fault that Mexico does not search every car headed into Mexico. As a regular visitor I have never been asked to open the underneath compartments on my RV. In nearly a decade of travels into Mexico not asked once. The Mexican Border Guards just stand around flipping the Green & Red light on and off. Yes the RV has to go through the declaration line, - no dogs, no open the compartments. They could make a lot more money stopping every vehicle. |
Rich Lueck
posted 2:29 AM on 03/26/09
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Part of the U.S. aid package to Mexico is earmarked for equipment and training to address border checkpoints. Mexico simply does not have enough resources to guard its border to the extent that the United States monitors traffic heading the other direction. There also is not doubt in anyone's mind that corruption and intimidation helps keep some Mexican border checking lax. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:58 AM on 03/26/09
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I've just seen "Larry King Live" where Sam Quiñones appears with Edward J. Olmos and I can guarantee that Mr. Olmos from here on will become a "persona non grata" in Mexico due to his irresponsible generalizations advising viewers "not to visit Mexico.... anywhere". Even Anderson Cooper said he had been to Baja recently on a leisure trip and experienced not a single problem, yet we have this "mexican-american" so out of touch with his damaging comments that he doesn't realize the impact they could have on tourism, foreign investment and overall image of the country. |
Roberto C. - Tijuana
posted 2:10 AM on 03/26/09
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Kudos for our president Calderon for finally realizing that the "old" Mexican system of goverment looking the other way while traffickers do their things, has outlived reality and the modern world. There is a lot of bad blood out there from decades of neglect and corruption, and somebody has to clean it. Mexico will come out a better, stronger, and more mature nation. I see serious people with serious commitments in my nations, all the way from our president, to street level cops, i am so proud of them, and i am so proud of our military. |
jesse
posted 1:09 AM on 03/26/09
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Great job by the LA County Sheriff's Department. Getting 150,000 street doses of heroin per week off the street is quite an accomplishment. Hopefully the courts won't just kick these criminals out the back door. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-heroin25-2009mar25,0,4918755,full.story |
Molly R
posted 12:32 AM on 03/26/09
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Thanks, nice job... just saw you on Larry King w/ Sr. Edward James and the Republican Anachronism. I guess this means that we are being impacted here in the states. Am a little dissapointed after seeing this presentation that you did not speak up more when Sr. Edward James Olmos told the guy off. Larry King is always live! |
stekker
posted 7:34 PM on 03/25/09
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Do you think that I would be safe to go to Tijuana is you stay withing the main tourist areas? Can you give me some list of the safest tourist areas of tijuana? |
Ivan Ferando
posted 5:22 PM on 03/25/09
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I can only recommend you check the U.S. State Dept.'s travel advisory for Mexico, which has good advice on precautions to take when visiting areas that have experienced violence, such as Tijuana and Rosarito Beach. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:42 AM on 03/26/09
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I agree with most comments:its a 2 nation problem.luckily Calderon took initiative to stop the problem. |
sergio cruz
posted 4:09 PM on 03/25/09
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As this crisis is getting more and more coverage in the news (kudos to LA times for starting this project a while ago) one of the problems that keeps getting brought up is the flow of guns from the US to Mexico that is arming the cartels. I'm curious why the Mexican government doesn't step up efforts to review automobile traffic headed into their country. Anyone who has traveled to Mexico by car knows how easy it is compared to traveling into the United States. Perhaps if Mexico did car checks, scanned passports, or even just did quick interviews as the US Border Patrol does they'd be able to slow the smuggling of arms. Thoughts? |
Jeremiah Smith
posted 3:55 PM on 03/25/09
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I like to comment about your article of the oaxacan clan, please don´t call us tribes, we are Indigenous Nations.... 16 are the main lenguages spoken in oaxaca by 1,027,928 people, there are big cities like Juchitan oaxaca were 88% of it´s population speaks indigenous language, so this can´t be considered a tribe |
Elizabeth
posted 1:02 PM on 03/25/09
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How is the money being laundered? Recent articles talk about stemming the flow of money south...but how has it been getting there in the first place? |
Marie Fujieda
posted 9:29 PM on 03/24/09
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There seem to be a lot of comments here about how "corrupt" the Mexican governement is. This smacks of U.S. xenophobia. Our government ain't exactly squeaky clean in this mess of a drug war they've been "fighting" for decades. Before you blame the corruption of another country's government, take a look at your own. |
Mike
posted 1:48 PM on 03/24/09
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Today's article in the LA Times "U.S. shares blame in Mexico drug violence, senators say" confirms what I have always believed in. The U.S. provides 90% of the weapons used by Mexican Drug Cartels, and is the number one drug consuming nation. The U.S. now promises to aid Mexico in their fight against U.S. weapon smuggling into Mexico and illegal drug trafficking. Hopefully this article will grab the attention of everyone who solely blames Mexico for it's drug violence and trafficking. Mexico is a country with so much rich History and culture. It's beauty attracts tourism from all over the world. Hopefully, the day will come soon when my native country will go past the drug cartel problems it currently shares with the U.S. |
Juliett Montalvo
posted 1:08 PM on 03/24/09
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What do drug cartells want? Money,right? A very simple way to make most of the illegal money no good is to change all the paper money to blue or red or white. Like every good idea this is just too darn simple for our Govt. to do. I've lived in the Islands and overseas for over 20 years and now that I'm back home I don't recognize it as anything like the America I left. We are still the most free country but we are no longer the leader in the things that really matter...God,family and country, in that order. Pray for America. We need it! Capt P.Y. Boggs |
Capt P.Y. Boggs
posted 1:08 PM on 03/24/09
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One of the worst mistakes the US ever made was during the Polk administration in which he had General Zachary Taylor (later US president) march an American army all the way down to Mexico City, easily defeating every Mexican army it came in contact with and then somewhat inexplicably pulled back. The opportunity to take over Mexico or at least shorten the border was there and they failed to realize the future implications of not doing so...if only. |
David
posted 1:04 PM on 03/24/09
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legalize it! |
Mexicanamerican
posted 12:49 PM on 03/24/09
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Let's be clear about one thing. This violence is a symptom of prohibition. No prohibition, no violence. Cannabis is 50% of the drug trade. Make it legal, and half of this goes away, ov ernight. Plus we save about 100 Billion US a year that we are spending to put simple users in jail. Plus the human capitol we would save by not ruining young men and women's lives. Plus an ACTUAL reduction in usage by putting tax dollars from cannabis sales into the method scientifically proven to be the most effective for reducing use, VOLUNTARY TREATMENT. Not to mention the boon that we would see from using hemp fibers and oils to create paper, clothing, biofuel, and much much more. |
Joseph
posted 12:28 PM on 03/24/09
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the mafia is in the liquor business? fact? killings? your making stuff up. |
doug
posted 12:27 PM on 03/24/09
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Do you see what the United States is doing to be of any good? Is just sending guns and agents to the help the Mexican police going to help. |
Dori
posted 12:16 PM on 03/24/09
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I know the Mexican constitution does not allow international troops in its territory, but can't the United States send Special ops and intelligence officers to help track down and arrest these drug lords? make an excemption in regards to Mexico's constitution??? |
Sal
posted 11:44 AM on 03/24/09
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very easy fix, legalize drugs and tax them there goes the problem. Anyone smugeling patron across the border been killed? We can then use the law enforcement dollars for treatment and keep our problems on our side of the border |
doug
posted 11:43 AM on 03/24/09
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A couple of things really concern me. First is the xenophobia that this is and will continue to stir up within the US toward Mexicans and Latinos alike. Toward people who are citizens or resident aliens. There's a huge misunderstanding regarding who is involved with this issue and I believe the Media is part and parcel with this misinformation. The "immigration problem" as it's sold to the public gets wrapped into this drug cartel issue. As does the gang issue. And while the gang issues might very well be directly related to the drug cartels, it bothers me that this xenophobia is being mixed in with immigration. We need to separate out truth from fiction. Secondly, there is a huge appetite for drug consumption in the US and elsewhere. WE as a nation of consumers need to acknowledge this reasonably. It needs to be seen with clear eyes. Obviously prohibition doesn't work. Obviously military solutions aren't working either. And when you have cartel gangs trained by the School of the Americas, you are going into a military battle that is set up for no winners or viable solutions outside of a lot of bloodshed. There needs to be smart solutions, perhaps even economic solutions regarding why there is this appetite for drugs and intoxicants. People do things to make themselves feel better, even self medication. We see this with Starbucks, energy drinks, sugar, alcohol, pot and other drugs. The days of draconian and maybe punitive measures is over. Doesn't work. Addiction isn't a one blanket fits all issue either when dealing with treatment solutions. It's time for us to take a hard look at the issues. A real hard look. Why is this futile "war on drugs" allowed to continue? What sense does it really make for either government to allow it to go on? There are no real successes to actually chalk up. A big bust here, a bust there. But really, let's take a critical look at the global situation with intoxication and you can see, it's futile. Instead of fighting this mess with guns and force, we need smart solutions. Solutions that benefit everyone. If you take the money out of it, take the profit out of it and make it legal or decriminalize it, then you take the power away from the bad guys. If you decriminalize it, you lower the prison crowding and then maybe can address addiction in a more compassionate and reasonable manner. And then maybe we can start to work on the xenophobia that is spreading around the nation regarding this issue. But until we start looking at this issue critically and from a place of reason instead of force and guns, I really think both sides have lost this "war on drugs." |
terri
posted 11:36 AM on 03/24/09
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Why do people think that legalizing drugs will eliminate the drug violence and organized crime? Are people talking about legalizing all drugs or just marijuana? If it's just marijuana won't we still have violent drug cartels trafficking heroin, meth & cocaine? And even if all drugs are legalized how exactly does organized crime get eliminated from drug trafficking? Everyone keeps making comparisons to the repeal of Prohibition but the Mafia stayed in the liquor business for decades -- it's still involved, in fact -- and still employed violence and murder to enforce its market share of the now-legal market. |
Paul
posted 11:17 AM on 03/24/09
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It hurts me a lot to see on the news about everyday innocent people getting murdered by the cartel members. hopefully one day Mexico my beloved Mexico will live in peace and harmony. Everyone deserves to live. There should be no racism of any kind what so ever. |
Eve
posted 11:46 PM on 03/23/09
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Killing other people is what God hates most. He said, “Thou shalt not kill.” Whether you are a member of an Islamic militant group or a member of a Mafia or a Mexican drug cartel, or a Yakuza, what you are facing is a human being just like you. Just as your own life is precious, so he is. “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” Isn’t that what your Mom or Aunt or your older sister taught you? A man does not prove his macho or heroism by killing other people. A true hero resists the devil. A true hero resists a boss’s order to kill other people even if it means his own death. A true hero is like one of those men who, even though they knew that it’s going to be their own death, let others go first as the ship Titanic was sinking. You, who are a gang boss in any form, are living on the blood of others. That is most cowardly. You live on the blood of little girls. You live on the blood on young men. That is most heinous crime. The law might have been soft so far. But, there may come a sudden change in the law enforcement so that people like you will be captured like a thunderbolt and be brought to justice and be executed speedily. Those on the American side of the border who either sold or in any way supported the drug traffics are worse. Because they are using the border as an excuse for their criminal acts which they certainly know will result in mass killings. They also should be captured and should be executed. The common law can be applied to these aiders and abettors. Although their mind did not aim at a particular person or a particular group of people, their knowledge that such acts of supporting these drug traffickers will surely effect deaths of countless people is more than sufficient enough to satisfy the mens rea element as well as the causation for a murder conviction. Moreover, the common law murder theory has never developed in fights against mass killings. Historically, the legal theories for the conviction of a murderer have aimed at isolated incidents of murderous act. That’s why we have rather irrational and unmerited hair-splitting legal theories such as premeditated murder, voluntary manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter, or negligent manslaughter. However short span of time it might have been, if some one had a thought of causing another person to die by his action and that other person eventually dies because of his action he is guilty of murder. We do not have to digress whether he was provoked to anger or not. Moreover, in this kind of organized gangs resulting in heinous and mass killings, the society’s interest in prosecuting and executing those involved in aiding or abetting criminal acts which help eventual mass killings is exponentially heightened so that the traditional rather individualized common law theories are not apt at all. |
smallvoice
posted 10:06 PM on 03/23/09
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i Believe that this Drug War in Mexico is a 2-nation problem and should be dealt with in that way. It’s not all Mexico’s fault and its not all the U.S Fault. We have to work together to stop it. and if we dont do so soon it could turn into something even worse. |
some person
posted 4:02 PM on 03/23/09
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"Prohibition" God help us, prohibition was a tool to keep innocent Americans safe, of course drug lords got a break in the thousands because of it, but millions of Americans lost as a result. Mexico has a problem because it looked the other way on crime, what was once a small cancer eventually got out of control, and this Chemo may or may not work for the life of it, but only time and emergency medicine will tell. America did the same thing, because of its bias for free and cheap labor, risking the life of all of the nation in the process. The lump is detected early, only surgery to cut the damaged tissue away can eradicate the lump, but effective treatment thereafter will keep the nation whole. Stop listening to these people that put big ideas ahead of common sense and practical application of good thought to use. PROTECT THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU TO PROTECT THEM.... |
James Los Angeles
posted 2:49 PM on 03/23/09
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The anarchy that we see on the border, in America and around the world is entirely the fault of the lawless U.S. drug war prohibition policy. Prohibition is not control. Prohibition is an absolute control vacuum. Legalization, regulation and licensing are controls. Regulated distribution would take drug sales out of the hands of abusers, addicts and gangsters. It would put the distribution into the hands of responsible licensed adult supervision. Responsible adult supervision would work to keep drugs away from children. Abusers, addict dealers and gangsters have a vested interest in growing their business to new generations. This is how to reduce demand. This is how to take the profits out of the hands of criminals and cartels. We have to do this soon because the cartels inevitably will establish connections with terrorist groups around the world who then can use these smuggling routes to bring WMD's and terrorists into America. Bankrupt the cartels, legalize drugs. NO MORE DRUG WAR! NO MORE DRUG WAR! NO MORE DRUG WAR! NO MORE DRUG WAR! |
Pat Rogers
posted 8:35 AM on 03/23/09
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The situation in México is literally terrifying. People speak about the danger we face in Iraq, when we're faced with such dangerous endeavors in our back yard. Mi abuelo nació en España (My grandfather was born in Spain), and I wish he could be alive to see the ongoing war against the drug cartels in México. I only hope for the best, and it seems like politics have always been apart of Latin American culture/literature. I feel there'll be so much to learn from this all. At least something is being done about the situation – I feel as if so much more blood will be spilled. Vaya con dios - ¡A quien Dios ama, le llama! |
Cristóbal Álan Cannon
posted 7:39 AM on 03/23/09
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It is about time that America at least takes the initiative to hear Mexico’s leaders out regarding this massive drug war. Not only has it begun to claim the lives of Americans, but it is spreading across our boarders and beginning to threaten citizens from neighboring states. Our nation should spend less time and effort patrolling the boarder and worry more about the massive amounts of drugs and money being laundered in and out of the country. I think that Obama should continue to work with the president of Mexico in order to establish a foundation for what they intend to do about the crisis at hand. Being a Southern-Californian, i can only hope that this reform comes before myself and my neighbors start feeling the affects of this current drug war. |
John
posted 10:48 PM on 03/22/09
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When reading the LA Times coverage of this war, I am first struck by the courage of the reporters. The authenticity of their work does them credit as journalists. Knowing how ruthless the parties are in this conflict makes me appreciate the writing even more. Mexico is not a country with a history of due process. It's citizens have no second amendment to facilitate a culture of self defense. In my opinion, the people who are out there bringing us this news do so at great personal risk. The soldiers in the Mexican army risk their lives and their family's lives. Thus, masks are used to conceal identity. They fight knowing that if they do not win, there will be no surrender, for them or their loved ones. |
jggrimm
posted 4:17 PM on 03/22/09
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What is United states doing about all these people being murdered? Where is are democracy important? |
lapina
posted 7:23 AM on 03/22/09
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Well, right now as we all know there's a drug war in Mexico. its that easy, well that how i see it You are ridiculous, stop drug usage? Seriously? SHUT THE RETARDED COMMENT UP!!!! IT IS CLEAR YOU ARE UPSIDE DOWN, legalize drugs in all of the US and make them pure and monitored as they do in Canada and Amsterdam, in certain spots. Regulate the strength, people who use them, and eliminate the drive for money by building our economy and forcing the weak to fade out. yes, FADE OUT!!! People are irrational and will do irational things with or without drugs, they will soon learn what is ok and what is not. LET THE PEOPLE KNOW, stop smothering this nation under your media blanket and let them be truly free in the sense that they can decide what is good for their own lives, without swayed legislation, and media hype. ALL PEOPLE WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT IN THE END, with or without Mexico, drug cartels, us political regimes, and media brain washing. WE ARE ALL ABOUT TO BE AMERICA regardless of what is done now, we had lots of chances and we were told about the problem in the movie traffic point blank. SHEEPS ALL OF YOU ARE SO DAMM SCARED that you conform to the flock and follow them right of the cliff. PS LEARN TO SPELL OK SMART GUY!! |
Some guy
posted 5:33 AM on 03/22/09
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C'mon, LA Times, enough with your exaggerated adjetives and inflammable phrases describing Tijuana, such as "streets of madness that have run with blood, vengance and medieval violence". PPFFffftttt.....this sort of yellow journalism only perpetuates false and sensationalist perceptions. Yes, there are incidents, but you paint a picture of total social chaos and threats to safety at every corner that some of your gullible readers eat up. That's why you get many questions asking how safe it is to visit such and such place in Mexico, scaring away potential tourism. I live in TJ and move about the city every day like thousands of its inhabitants and visitors. |
Rob C.
posted 9:44 AM on 03/21/09
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The Mexican Government needs to grant the citizenry a Second Amendment. Let the people protect themselves against the cartels; otherwise, we'll have to move in and take care of them the right way. |
The Patriot
posted 10:32 PM on 03/20/09
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It's unbelievable that a newspaper with the reputation of the Los Angeles Times would take such a broad negative stroke against Tijuna. Are you safe in Tijuana? Yes, if you visit the business and tourism areas and are not breaking the law. Are you safe in Los Angeles? Yes, if you are visiting the business and tourism areas and are not breaking the law. I go to Tijuana three or four times a week and feel comfortable. When others go with me, their comment is always, "It's so normal."--which it is. It's not fair to make a broadbrush stroke over a city of 1.8 million. Would you want daily gang killings in parts of Los Angeles County to frighten people from visiting the Music Center, Hollywood or the Westside? James |
James Clark
posted 1:36 PM on 03/20/09
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I wonder what the CIA and FBI etc. are saying about this mexican-drug war, no comment eh? what about the cities over us border, tunels in tj, tunels on the us side, come on, open your eyes. |
jesus
posted 12:17 AM on 03/20/09
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All eyes are on Mexico, all the blame on Mexico, all criticism on Mexico. America, look in the mirror and ask yourselves when you're going to wake up and realize that your drug consumption is the problem. I would rather be a drug dealer than a cocaine addict. Says Mexico. |
Jason
posted 10:29 PM on 03/19/09
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Last night we received a call from mexico it was a family member very consern. What do we do in a case where you are being used in a dirty scam from Mexico. Who can we report this to how do we now we are save here or there? |
Lizzette
posted 9:43 PM on 03/19/09
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| Staff reply:
A crime in Mexico must be reported to Mexican police. But it can't hurt to alert the U.S. consulate in Tijuana, if this involves any crimes against U.S. citizens. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:23 AM on 03/20/09
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our own fault for doing nothing to control the border |
wayne clemon
posted 2:16 PM on 03/19/09
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Corruption is the action of own agendas and personal interests, Mexico has been corrupted in many way, and it's corruption will of course cause many of the current problems the country lives. But one thing we most and need to understand for sure too, USA has as many corruption or probably even more than Mexico but in a fancy and elegant way, the family values in Mexico are more strong than in USA, consuption of narcotics it's out of control in this country, those drug dealers know that, they know just like a marketing specialist will know that many factors determinate the need of those drugs in their bodies, thus.. the ARMAMENT is not just a regular gun or rifle, they have a very heavy weapon that is not coming from any other place than USA, the big sales of drug are in USA, the big trucks full of drug are transiting in USA on a daily basis and there are tons of it TONS!, we find a weak neighbor to make a business grow, and due their obvious and various problems we just point the finger to them and blame them for everything, and we have blamed them for several years. The one thing we an a tourist most understand is that this is a war between cartels, a war to have control of who gets the better contacts in USA to send the drugs, media will tell about the deaths, and they just mention deaths, but it is not ordinary people deaths nor tourist deaths, so... Mexico is not a war territory place, it has locations were the cartels are fighting, but is just like some locations here too like LA, Bronx, Chicago or many other cities or places that you just won't go there at all. there are many more things worse than corruption and that's pride on it's only and real definition, there is no good and bad pride just like there is good or bad lie. this Country has been grateful since the beginning let's not enter in that pride cycle that destroys it all. |
Luke
posted 12:12 PM on 03/19/09
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What would be the financial effect to the Mexican drug cartels if marijuana is legalized in the US? |
John Carreno
posted 10:06 AM on 03/19/09
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The DEA and other law-enforcement sources frequently cite that about 60% of the profits earned by Mexican drug-trafficking organizations comes from marijuana. Clearly, it would hurt them. But it's not clear whether smuggling would cease entirely, as most people who favor legalization or decriminalization also talk of taxation and other control regimes that might continue to spur a black market. And it's unclear what other crime these organizations will turn to in the absence of such a money-maker. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:17 PM on 03/19/09
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Well right now as we all know there's a drug war in mexico. its that easy, well that how i see it |
Thelome
posted 8:13 AM on 03/19/09
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All of this is crazy. What goes unquestioned is the basic tenent that it's wrong to "get high". Man has "gotten high" with one thing or another since the dawn of time. It's obvious by all measures the drug "war" isn't working. You're not going to stop people from seeking to "get high". |
Hanna Montana
posted 5:42 AM on 03/19/09
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I am particularly interested how the drug issue is viewed by the American poicymakers: is it a law-and-order problem or has it developed into a national security problem-for both countries? This is especially important for several reasons: 1) Mexico does not have great memories of the US military; 2) the US military does not like playing policeman and a policy built to respond to this has to take this account; 3) what is your view of the Merida Initiative and where it should go beyond what it is doing? Mexicans are understandably irritated the US failure to address the demand side, but what more can be done? 4) Are there any other significant actors who supply the gangs? Certainly guns from the US, but the more destructive weapons recently acquired--could they have come from elsewhere? I have states in mind but also the network between organized criminal associations? Thanks! Peter |
Peter Stavrakis
posted 12:43 PM on 03/18/09
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You're correct on those first two points: Mexico is highly unlikely to seek or permit a greater military role by the United States in its country. As for Plan Merida: U.S. policy has been weighted heavily toward interdiction of narcotics, and Merida is no exception. Some of the aid, however, is aimed at strengthening the weak institutions that have allowed criminal organizations to flourish. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:00 PM on 03/19/09
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I am most concerned about the threat of an all out Mexican war. I am an African American citizen, and have encountered racism and gang threats, just as many of us have. What will happen if this violence is not thwarted? There needs to be a real solution to this problem. Now! I couldn't imagine living in San Diego right now, and fearing for my life. The U.S. will soon be Mexico if we are not careful. The State Dept needs to make a priority. Is trading with Mexico more important, than violence possibly spilling over and effecting even more American citizens? A threat like this from any other Administration would have lead to an immediate demand to close the borders, and ensure public safety. I am concerned about the future of this country. Yes..some in the U.S. should not be supplying Mexico with drugs and guns..but why are they even able to? The borders should be closed immediately in order to reslove the issue. They could be reopened in the uture..but woth caution. For now.. there's no other choice. Period. |
Angel
posted 10:56 PM on 03/17/09
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I live in Mexico and I feel safe. The drug war is killing the Mexican economy and any student of Latin America knows that when the economy is bad, the guerrillas surface. I refer to Peru's Shining Path and Columbia's FARC. So continuing the war against drugs may lead to a bigger problem. On the other hand, if drugs were legal consumption may go down just as consumption went down when alcohol was legalized in 1932. As an added bonus, bootleggers became obsolete. The fact remains that legal or not there is a large demand for drugs in the US. Maybe it's time for an honest public debate. |
El gringocho
posted 10:41 PM on 03/17/09
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what can we do in america to help |
Garry
posted 9:54 PM on 03/17/09
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The Mexican Government should confiscate lands run by cartel mob bosses. Use that money to fight the drug problem. |
Jon Q
posted 1:50 PM on 03/17/09
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I've read most of the opinion posted here. I might agree or disagree with them but one struck me very funny: Israel Osuna's comment that the solution is to have american police advisors taking over the whole mexican law enforcement system. Ha! that's a laugh. México has it's very bad drug cartel problems but to assume that the U.S. army & police take over in México is funny. If that was the case, why not take over the country like in Irak? But maybe the U.S. army and police can do something: catch and arrest (without accepting bribes) once they're in the U.S. which is the number one consumer |
Antonio Tello
posted 1:28 PM on 03/17/09
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Has there been an increase in violence on Isla Mujeres off the Coast of Cancun? Is it safe to travel from Cancun to Isla Mujueres? |
Jill T
posted 1:05 PM on 03/17/09
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The tourists zones of Mexico have been spared the violence. We suggest you read the State Department's advisory, which offers general safety advice and suggestions about traveling once you are in Mexico. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:22 PM on 03/17/09
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This examination of thye Mexican Cartles is very helpful to someone who works in the field of Hemispheric Security, however, a few details need to be examined. 1- In security conferences held recently it has been discussed that another source of weaponry, particularly the heavier weapons have also been obtained illegally from the FARC and possibly illicit arms sales involving Venezuela. The primary arms coming out of the US tend to be handguns and shotguns. The use of the .50 cal rifle still seems fairly limited. 2- The significance of activities by the Zetas need a bit more examination. 3-Please examine the connection between the troubles in Central America(i.e. Mara Salvatrucha). |
T. Stiles
posted 7:52 AM on 03/17/09
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The U.S. needs to do one of two things. 1. Legalize drugs and tax them like cigs. and alcohol. |
JT
posted 2:35 PM on 03/16/09
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I must be direct: There are no easy answers to these problems. Idealism has to be put aside and replaced with pragmatism. The solution starts with the U.S. and Mexico both looking this problem as it is, instead of how individual interests would like it to be. One thing is clear: As long as Mexico remains a corrupt country that culturally tolerates corruption, there is no solution to this problem, only limitations to how much it affects the United States. |
Jon K.
posted 1:29 PM on 03/16/09
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As a Mexican citizen and resident of Zihuatanejo, I am truly saddened that you selected a photo of an ambushed police truck burning near Zihuatanejo to fan the flames of fear regarding the situation in Mexico. Your photo selection and references to local incidents of violence between police and narco-thugs have unfortunately caused many of our would-be visitors to needlessly cancel their reservations and vacations to our area. And this is causing unnecessary hardship to people who often already endure plenty of sacrifice and hardship just to make ends meet for their families. I know "fear" is a popular topic in the media, it sells, but we who live here in Zihuatanejo and the thousands of visitors who are here now and who have visited here this year are NOT alarmed, our everyday lives are NOT threatened or altered, and to my knowledge no one's vacation has been affected by any narcoviolence. For a little context: most municipal police in Mexico do not enjoy the confidence of the people but instead are historically considered to be "criminals with badges", though no doubt there are some good elements among them and things are getting better. Locally we were of course saddened to see some municipal police attacked and killed, though not too surprised. Because they do not enjoy a good reputation or the trust of the people, it is of diminished concern when narco-thugs and police kill each other. Most people simply see it as bad guys killing bad guys. No big loss, right? And precisely because the municipal police have been incapable of dealing with organized crime, usually because so many of them are part of it, the state and federal governments have provided additional security to Zihuatanejo in the form of well-trained state and federal police as well as military personnel. We who live here have never felt safer. But for all our efforts to get the word out that the media hype regarding violence in Zihuatanejo-Ixtapa is overblown and out of context, here you come along and publish a photo that does not represent local reality but instead causes unnecessary harm to our economy. Thanks a lot, pal. I hope you'll try being a little more professional and sensitive next time before you inadvertently hurt a town's economy and cause additional hardship to its people. If you have any doubts about anything I say, don't take my word for it. Instead, please come see for yourself what Zihuatanejo is all about. You just may find it to be a different place than you imagine. You just may find yourself relaxing sublimely and saying to yourself: "ahhhh, now THIS is what it's all about!" |
ZihuaRob
posted 12:30 PM on 03/16/09
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We have written more than 100 stories on drug violence in Mexico since June of last year. This is the first one highlighting a crime in Zihuatanejo. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:37 PM on 03/16/09
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Last time I looked..my local gun shops weren't selling grenades and grenade launchers. All this amounts to is another attempt to further eradicate our 2nd Amendment rights. It ain't our problem if Mexico's government is too corrupt to stop the cartels. |
DeezNutz
posted 10:52 AM on 03/16/09
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i just want to congratulate you and your coworkers contributing to the multimedia.I live in texas and follow the L.A.Times on the web.I use to live in L.A. for 24 years. once again congratulations and thank you for the stories and the courage you guys have,take care. Gracias por los reportajes tan interesantes. |
rafael ruezga
posted 8:49 AM on 03/16/09
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WAKE UP PEOPLE "The main problem that Mexican people are facing is their corrupts government that begin from the highest and lowest level ranks." Daniel Silva. Have you not been paying attention to our economic problems? our entire banking system is CORRUPT. Wall Street is CORRUPT. Our Military is CORRUPT. This IS a nation of corrupt government at ALL levels. |
JC
posted 8:18 AM on 03/16/09
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Are there problems in Cancun, I am heading there for vacation. |
Betty
posted 7:20 AM on 03/16/09
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The tourist zones of Cancun have had no serious incidents of drug-related violence involving tourists. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:47 PM on 03/16/09
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Apparently the Cartels are fighting for controlling the Drugs because drug sales have more than likely gone way down; not up why is this Because people in America even the rich you use alot more Cocaine have less money thanks to failing economy. This is in turn squeezing the Cartels to control who will get the big runs on USA. |
John Russell
posted 8:25 PM on 03/15/09
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Kill the demand. End the war. Simple as that. The drug dependency problem in teenagers, college students, and in adults is unimaginable. This will never end. |
Giovanni
posted 4:30 PM on 03/15/09
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Another conflict brought to you by that so called intelligence agency? Oh, come on...remember El Salvador? The type of weapons these guys are using only come from one source, government. |
John F.
posted 2:25 PM on 03/15/09
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The Office of National Drug Control Policy estimates that between 545 and 707 metric tons of cocaine arrived in the United States in 2007, the last year for which an estimate is available. That differs only slightly from the previous year, when the range was estimated at about 509-709 metric tons. Those estimates are based on merging a production-based estimate with a consumption-based estimate. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:09 PM on 03/15/09
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It's good, that finaly Mexico got the mass media atencion on this very sad problem, there's no time for a blame-game, just factual and realistic information... so US and Mexico can fix it...at the same time, there's people who have a prejudice opinion about mexican people, but it is very optimistic that te Times is doing, a inspirational journalistic job...thank you guys. |
Sal R.
posted 1:16 PM on 03/15/09
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Excuse me? Legalize marijuana and cocaine (neither of which I enjoy) and this all goes away. Crimes are very rarely committed by the users of such drugs while under the influence. Almost all drug related crime is artificial crime - laws created under the lie of "protecting people from themselves". The real crimes - murder, kidnapping, extortion, threats - are the result of people committed to trafficking because the war against them makes the rewards of their participation irresistible. Almost all drug related crime is manufactured by our desire to control the use of something a large number of us want. We make people criminals. The real crime (not the manufactured kind - like helmet, seatbelt and cell phone laws) is 98% related to two things: 1) Our phony prohibition erodes the soul; lowers respect for all other laws and restrictions; dissolves the fiber of society; builds bitterness, cynicism, a scoff-law mentality. We've made otherwise socially healthy people socially un-healthy. 2) Interfering with people doing business artificially inflates the value of the limited supply. We have artificially greatly increased the costs of bringing it to market. This increases the relative value to those who have already been taught to disregard phony laws. First we incentivise the dissolution of their souls, then we make it worth great fortunes to succeed in their businesses. Let's stop pretending that marijuana and cocaine are a "social" problem. Phony laws are the social problem. Let's stop the escalation. Let's make it politically impossible to stay in office as long as killing our own citizens, and locking up close to a million of us a year (marijuana possession alone), and creating another drug enforcement induced (not drug induced) civil war in another banana republic continues. |
Ray Reynolds
posted 8:44 AM on 03/15/09
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The main problem that Mexican people are facing is their corrupts government that begin from the highest and lowest level ranks.The president Felipe Calderon, recently started to confronted the drug cartels, but the results it seemed that are against the Mexican people because the statistics shows that most military and innocent civilians have been killed by the drug traffickers. The problem is that the Mexican government still have corrupt elements that are linked with the drug cartels.To diminish this problem i think that U.S Army needs to get involve in this drug's war as well as in select and train the Mexican Military.Also,Felipe Calderon needs to eradicate the corrupt elements among his cabinet. |
Daniel Silva
posted 2:55 PM on 03/14/09
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My 23 yr old daughter and 2 friends are planning on going to Cabo San Lucas in June 2009. First of all if it was your daughter would you let her go and second do you have any advice for her if she does go. Thank You |
Robert
posted 4:35 PM on 03/13/09
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Is it save to cross at tecate |
Debra Sieben
posted 3:02 PM on 03/13/09
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This is why we need the military on our borders, a wall, surveillance, and more ways to stop all these criminals from coming into the USA. But, our president wants to give illegal aliens free schooling, and other tax payer paid benefits the legal US citizens who obey the law can't get. We are doomed as long as liberals run the Congress and White House. It is not an "immigration issue" it is an "illegal immigration issue." As far as traveling into Mexico, it is a corrupt, third-world country, do so at your own risk, same as any other third-world country. |
hpg
posted 10:42 AM on 03/13/09
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WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE DRUG TRAFFIC IN MEXICO AND THE SMUGGLING INTO THE U.S. BUT WE NEVER, NEVER HERE ABOUT THE DRUGS ONCE THEY'RE HERE. |
Roger Rivero
posted 10:11 AM on 03/13/09
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Why is nothing ever said about Los Zetas, mutinous Mexican Army troops, being graduates of the School of the Americas in Fort Benning, GA. which has a long history of turning out dicatators and death squads? Why is nothing mentioned about the Kaibiles, Guatemalan US Marine Special Forces trained elite death squads who also have deserted their military for the more lucrative positions of Mexican drug cartel mutilator assassins? The entire infrastructure of both the US and Mexico are mired in the drug trade which fuels Mexico's economy thanks to NAFTA's ruination of Mexican corn farmers. The Mexican army, the police, the drug cartels and gangs all kill innocents. The colllapse of societies all over the world is a direct result of destroying and criminalizing land based livlihoods, communities and basic dignity that is inherent in the right to provide for essential human needs. Mexico is following the same path of divide and conquer destruction that the Congo is. No one will be left alive except the corrupt officials and the corporations that simply want the land and all it's resources. The guns and training come from the US. Why doesn't anyone pay attention to the humanitarian approach of the Zapatistas?They strive for the dignity and human rights of all the Indigenous, the poor and peasants of Mexico, but these are the expendables in the eyes of the greedy. The US will suffer no less as the craziness based on profit over human rights spreads. It is the sickest of times and we all stand to lose, especially the children..... It is time to hear the Mothers and the Grandmothers. We are among the most silenced as we watch our children expire amid this modern madness. |
swaneagle harijan
posted 10:10 AM on 03/13/09
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Mexican society seems irredeemable. As one famous Mexican author put it, "Mexico: so far from God, so close to the United States." The U.S. government has been about 20 years behind the curve on this issued: illegal immigration, drugs, I.D. theft, cartels and related destructive elements leeching into the U.S. for decades. Now is not the time for political correctness or waffling about the net liability of continued immigration from Mexico into the U.S. We must finish the fence, post national guard or other military units at the border and employ a no-nonsense enforcement policy. There is much rooting out of Mexican gang/cartel/drug/murder activity to be done all over the U.S. but I'm afraid that, with the exception of California and other border states, the rest of the country is just beginning to wake up to the fact that we have, in fact, been invaded. There should be no further aid to Mexico unless every member of the government in every state, each police officer and member of the military is subjected to a lie detector test to weed out the criminal and corrupt. |
Tara
posted 9:34 AM on 03/13/09
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Young Mexican men (police, army, drug mules, Zetas, MS-13) have to die because |
Scott
posted 8:33 AM on 03/13/09
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What about the recent comments from Felipe Calderon about the corruption in the US government? Why are not published in the American news papers, What about the weapons from US stores, even from the US army. The next step will be the Mexican police chasing corrupted American citizens. |
Pepe
posted 5:34 AM on 03/13/09
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Wouldn't decriminalization of drug sales and possession or even outright legalization in Mexico and the U.S. eliminate or reduce this violence? |
William
posted 9:50 PM on 03/12/09
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I just want to say yes Mexico does have a drug problem, but the question is where is all this drugs going too? The problem is here in the united states, because as long as americans have an appetite for drugs there will always be a supplier. Its impossible to think that this drugs dealers from mexico are smuggling drugs on their own and I do believe that their are United State citizens also involved in drug smuggling. We can just sit here and say mexico is out of control when all the drugs are ending up here in the United States. What i think is we have a big problem here in our country too, because if the demand for drugs wasn't so high then we would not have suppliers. We have to get to the root of the problem here and the roots are planted here, and growing everyday and nothing is being done about it. Some body is buying those drugs and who ever it is, is living here in our country and thats who we need to target to solve this drug problem we have in Mexico and The Unites States. |
tony valencia
posted 9:47 PM on 03/12/09
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My comment has to do with all the publicity that the violence in Mexico, abiet well deserved, is receiving why does anyone cover the reason why the Pharmaceutical Industeries lobby so that they can sell thier own drugs and lobby against certain drug legalzation (i.e. marijuana) that would no doubt ease the problems south of the border. The events that are occuring now is a byproduct of greedy buisness men on both sides of the border. It takes thousands of lives taken for you guys to spotlight it but this is a problem that stems right here in our own back yard. |
Oscar
posted 9:03 PM on 03/12/09
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I find your commentary very interesting. Specifically the suggestion that in order to remedy our country's continuing problems of gun control and drug use/abuse, we should in essence occupy the border towns of the sovereign nation of Mexico. Have we learned nothing from the war in Iraq?? |
JC
posted 8:54 PM on 03/12/09
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Can the U.S military intervene to help Mexico fight the drug cartels? |
David
posted 7:12 PM on 03/12/09
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I am not, nor have been a user of illegal drugs in my life, although long ago I lived with people with drug addiction problems. Ironically, it used to be on the San Diego police exam if you answered you had used pot, you were disqualified. Now if you say you have never used pot, they think you are lying. But I have never used it. of course, since we are the United States, solution number 2 is not in our nature, so solution number 1 seems the right choice. of course, use of these drugs when it can affect others..such as driving..should carry a very stiff penalty. it was not long ago, when DUIs did not carry the stiff penalties they do now..nor did you necessarily go to jail if you injured or killed someone. The money saved s/be put into treatment programs. I cannot possibly tell you how many times I have read letters to the LA Times, SD UT, and the WSJ by policemen and so forth who are FOR the legalization of drugs, since they see people w/o any history of violence get arrested repeatedly on drug charges.. |
Alex Maas
posted 5:45 PM on 03/12/09
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Somebody is talking about justice? Is this person knows what is living in Mexico city, and I don't talk about The Capital, I talk about all the mexican nation, from south to north, and west to east. |
octavio
posted 5:29 PM on 03/12/09
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So what do we ordinary citizens do to help with this? I'm 50 years old, I don't do drugs, and it would seem much of the pot sold in this country is soaked with blood. What can I do? |
David Axelman
posted 5:20 PM on 03/12/09
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Instead of looking and doing an analysis on the effects of the 'drug war' in Mexico, why you don't instead put all your efforts on doing the analysis on the root cause of this problem? You are talking about millions of people, teenagers and even children on the schools buying drugs at a very inexpensive cost? Why is the US so focus on putting all the eyes and efforts on Mexico, threatening to send troops and the army to the border, looking at the neighbor with bad eyes, instead of trying to fix theproblem from the root? Let me answer you this question... because is easier to blame somebody else than to take the blame... right? Regards.... Juan |
Juan
posted 5:19 PM on 03/12/09
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The only way to rid Mexico of it's corrupt Police officers along with their corrupt military is to have American Police Advisors taking over the whole Mexican law enforcement system. This would include Police Mentoring Teams from the U.S. Army assisting The U.S. Police Advisors. Appicants for the Mexican Police Force would be carefully selected. The Police Academy would be taught by Americans.
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Israel Osuna
posted 3:50 PM on 03/12/09
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prohibition has never worked, drugs should have always been legal and as long as they are not we will only see more and more of this |
wilson
posted 8:06 PM on 03/10/09
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Do you think traveling from Dallas to Phoenix on I 20 is safe? It goes through El Paso and Tucson. Can that be dangerous? |
Vanessa
posted 12:32 PM on 03/10/09
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Unless you're speeding, drinking, talking on a cell phone, or taking care of personal hygiene issues such as shaving or putting on makeup while driving, you ought to be well within the comfort zone of risk. On average, there are about 1.9 to 2.3 fatalities per hundred-million vehicle miles driven on rural interstate highways in Texas, Arizona and New Mexico, last time I looked. You have a good chance of arriving safely. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:21 PM on 03/10/09
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Don't think we haven't tried to help the Mexican Goverment Jesus. We have given them millions in cash and equipment, Where do you think their getting all those new HumV's their driving and body armor their sporting around to help fight the Narcos, WALMART.Give me a break. They cry that they only have M4's and M16's that we supplied them to help fight the Narco's, and make the excuse that they cant fight them because the Narcos still out gun them. The real problem is that most of them are to chicken to fight and the other's are on the take. Those two weapons and some GUT's is all that is needed to combat a bunch of Narco's, these weapons are the same ones that American soldiers are using, the only difference is, we're not afraid to use them. |
Recoil
posted 12:03 PM on 03/10/09
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This is only the beginning. The drug cartels allied with local street gangs who have ties to the Mexican Mafia will only make this situation worse. We need to realize that this so called WAR ON DRUGS will not be won. Until we can cut U.S consumption of narcotics and cut the flow of weapons into Mexico, things are gonna explode. |
Alex Sanchez
posted 10:26 AM on 03/10/09
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it is hard to belive how people talk and try to send the problem to the mexicans only, corrupt police, goverment etc. etc. The drug dealers have the best equipment money can buy, the corrupt police etc by force somethimes, " take the case of money or I show you a pic of your family" any way all that money million of dollars came from american buyers, they know once they cross the border the rest is easy, and if they kill themselfs all, some ways of delivering this drugs must be open, not talking about those drugs you can make in your toilet room mr coili, so I think the border states of US with Mexico should work with the mexican army and police, after all, this people want this border cities so bad, they kill and fight to controll the access to the cities other side of the fence, after that the problem is how to bring back the cash! Ha! |
jesus
posted 1:16 AM on 03/10/09
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I am one of the 14,000 to 16,000 foreign residents who live in the Rosarito area, and I can tell you that the new mayor here has done a magnificent job in reorganizing the police department and requesting state and federal troops to come to the area. In virtually every case of violence there has been a connection to drugs or some other criminal activity, and none have involved tourists or foreign residents like myself. There is crime because we are not immune to that anymore than cities around the world. But, there have been huge improvements and I believe those efforts will pay off. At least in Rosarito. Living or visiting a foreign country is not for everyone. But for those who enjoy a different culture and experience, this is a great place to visit or consider retirement. |
Ken
posted 2:14 PM on 03/09/09
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I am so tired of hearing all these people that always blame America for their problems. This Border problem has been brewing for along time, even before Mexico's current President. Fox was told when he was President that there was a border problem and his reply was " US has a problem, but we don't " It started a few years back when Mexico failed to secure their own southern borders against South America.This allowed the Narcos from South America to employ the same type of terrorist violence to try and take over the drug routes comming into America, because of it being harder to smuggle in by boat or aircraft. As a matter of fact the majority of Automatic Weapons, Rocket Propelled Grenedes (RPG's)and other types of explosives being used comes from South America and other sources,( their own corrupt Military or Police). Not from America, as you may have been told or want to believe, you just cannot buy these items at gunshows or any other places at will. And it pisses me off that our own so called leaders will except this blame from others instead of saying bull****. The only blame we should except is why we didn't do something to stop it sooner, even if we did have to break a few egg's to make an omelett.Like letting our Border Agents do their job without the fear of repercution from the criminals. And yes you are a criminal when you sneek across the border, your breaking the law Period. Recoil. |
Recoil
posted 9:46 AM on 03/09/09
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Im from ZACATECAS but i stay in Los Angeles im VERY! disappointed that all of this crime is going on in ZACATECAS.. i would go there every year since i was 10 years old now im about to turn 18 in a few weeks... but this year were not going at all because of all the violence and kidnapping going on! hopefully every thing calms down in mexico so we could go and have our family time like we always do... =( |
Yoselin
posted 9:09 AM on 03/09/09
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I am really disappointed to see that so many of the people posting are concerned about their VACATIONS, rather than on the gravity of the situation. Wake up people! |
MHG
posted 3:53 PM on 03/07/09
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Just got back from Zacatecas. It is getting back to normal. There was a flurry of criminal activity late 2008 and early 2009...but the federal soldiers along with state and municipal police are getting things back to normal. Stores are remaining open at night, etc....it was a scare, particularly in an area that has had the lowest crime anywhere in mexico...the criminal situation was a bit exagerrated. I suppose when in a largely rural area you go from having no crime to 7 or 8 abductions, things will get exaggerated...Zacatecas is a beautiful state and has some of the lowest crime rates in all of Mexico. Lets keep it that way. |
Concerned
posted 3:47 PM on 03/07/09
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Geoffrey- |
cindy
posted 2:16 PM on 03/07/09
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Border Towns As Gettos? We need to better secure our borders, be it with a new fence, as Pres. Bush proposed, or by other conventional means (on the ground patrols and enforcement). Until we do, we should expect increasing crime and continued violence along our border towns until America can better prevent or reduce illegal entry by criminals, potential terrorists, deportees, or drug cartel members. So far, our various other "wars" (such as against drugs, terrorists, or poverty) have not been great success stories. Could this be because our politicans and therefore, the entire Federal government, are not that serious about winning, only making the best of what is argueably a bad situation, which they can not easily turn around. |
H. Craig Bradley
posted 12:59 PM on 03/07/09
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6000!!! Deaths in Mexico. Many of these deaths were the murder of police chiefs, officers, and family members of these officials. Police stations are attacked daily. Police Stations!!! Are you kidding me? The War on Terror is happening in Mexico not Iraq or Afghanistan!!! The "War" on drugs is lost!!! Economics 101. Supply and Demand. Thousands upon thousands of pounds of marijuana, cocaine and ecstasy. Are you kidding me? What are we doing? If these drugs don't make it across the border our sons and daughters will not have the drugs to "experiment" on in dorm rooms across this great nation. When was the last time we prosecuted a "personal use" offender? Hell, by all accounts I would say marijuana makes you swim faster. Just ask Michael Phelps. MEXICO We as a nation don't really want to stop drugs and people from coming into America. Do we? The reason this has come to light, is there is no longer control. The FBI, DEA, etc...have dismantled the very organization that kept these issues, of murder, kidnapping, etc..."under control." That organization was called the Mafia. Now we have a situation of murder, kidnapping, intimidation, and drug use on the verge of complete collapse. This is a direct threat to the national security of Canada, U.S., and Mexico. We won't talk about the Banking System, Stock Market, or Housing Market at this time. Are you kidding me? We (US) made many of the same fundamental mistakes in Vietnam, Iraq, and we are currently making them in Afghanistan and we have been making them for many years in Mexico. And those are: 1. We first and foremost we don't truly even understand our enemy much less even know who they are...FYI. Many of the problems are here in America. r/s, Thank you. |
Henry Jackson
posted 9:32 AM on 03/07/09
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Remarkable. Absolutely remarkable journalism. This work is courageous, honest, hugely important, and connects us to a war that is often dismissed as just another Mexican problem. Thank you Don Bartletti, Robert Gauthier and the amazing professionals at the finest paper in America! |
Josephine Zamudio
posted 11:45 PM on 03/06/09
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I'm getting tired of reading these "YOU who are smoking weed is responsible for this!! YOU!!!YOU!!" posts. Most of the pot sold in the US is homegrown [ever heard of Humboldt county?] most of the time in someone's spare room [ever heard of hydroponics?]. The pot coming from Mexico is of poor quality, sold very inexpensively, and requires lots of room to transport it making it the least profitable of drugs for the cartels. Now..cocaine and meth is another story.. |
Generic American#538892
posted 10:47 PM on 03/06/09
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A small dose of reality from the National Drug Intelligence Center, which has said that while domestic production "appears to be increasing," its extent remains "widely uncertain." |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:29 PM on 03/09/09
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I was born in El Paso, TX and raised in Cd. Juarez. I have to say, Cd. Juarez is just at its lowest point. The cartels run the streets and businesses. The Zetas, are usually the most in horrible of them all. They go up to people that own small businesses and demand a monthly quota, and if they don't comply they usually burn down the store or kidnaps the owner. Another thing they are starting to do is that they come one day and demand the next day all the workers of the business bring usa documents like Visas, or even residency cards and they pick them up the following day so the people won't flee. What's happening across the border is atrocious hierarchy by drug cartels of a result of a corrupt government. There is a black list going around all over Mexico of around one million people who is tied in one way or another in this problem. And I really wouldn't be surprised if the Mexican president gets assassinated soon. |
Ivette Noriega
posted 7:15 PM on 03/06/09
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Why is there no mention of the root cause for all this violence - the demand for drugs in America. Those who use drugs recreationally need to accept responsibility. Not all drug users are down and out addicts unable to control their habits. |
Bob Stearns
posted 8:49 PM on 03/05/09
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Hey thank you for this info, well herd from the grapevine that american black opps are doing some clean up work is it here in T.J. or just in monterrey.... |
Elrubio
posted 8:34 PM on 03/05/09
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Well i just want to comment that it's to bad that there is such violence in Juarez, i have family,friends, and property out there and i want to go but now i am scared to even travel in that direction. i went in December and well luckily the neighborhood seemed tranquil. but still people are urging us NOT to go. My mom tells me stories how when she was young she would sneek out to go out to the movies with friends late at night and she was able to walk the streets alone at night with no worries. the situation is sad to her and how unfair to say but she said Juarez has become an ugly town and how it was once peacefull and nice.So when can i go check on property then?? Be with family? Everyone is scared and people won;t do any favors now at days. |
esmeralda
posted 12:30 PM on 03/05/09
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Kidnapping have always been a problem in Mexico. Until now, the media it's reporting it more often because it's getting worse. Just like the murders of the women in Juarez up to this point authorities have not found the person's responsible for this crimes. Authorities will never find the killers because they are very corrupt and I think they have something to so with it with the help mexican politicians. Las Hijas de Juarez it's a very good book to read |
Monica
posted 10:39 AM on 03/05/09
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THE SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM IS STOP THE DRUG CONSUMPTION IN THE UNITED STATES....THIS IS A ISSUE OF LACK OF SELF RESPECT OF THE INDIVIDUAL IN THE UNITED STATES. IT IS A MORAL ISSUE IN THE UNITED STATES. |
Giles Manwaring
posted 8:19 AM on 03/05/09
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El Chapo Guzman quiere todo el pastel. A esto me refiero que es el mas avara y no respeta a los demas carteles. Las malas lenguas todavia dicen que El Señor de los Cielos todavia vive y que fue el cuerpo de su hermano Cipriano Carrillo Fuentes. Aqui en Juarez y El Paso todavia siguen los de La Linea sin rendirse. Hay un antro aqui en El Paso sin decir nombres, localizado en la calle Montana, algo retirado donde hay actividades sospechosas... |
Anonimo
posted 2:09 AM on 03/05/09
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I was born here in the US. My parents were born in the state of Jalisco Mexico. How sad to see what has happened to their beautiful country. The people are so gracious. They don't deserve to live like this. You would think you're reading news reports from another area when you hear about the beheadings and murders taking place. I pray for all those innocent lives that have been lost due to this unnecessary violence. |
Eva
posted 9:57 PM on 03/04/09
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Thank you, thank you, thank you Geoffrey and your staff working in Mexico for this incredible series. The fact that you can do it in light of the horrible demolition of the LA Times by Sam Zell makes this feat of journalism doubly remarkable. I hope you can expand the coverage. It amazes me that our government in Washington D.C. seems to be ignoring this war and is hoping that nobody but Californians and Texans will notice it. The violence has already spilled over the border into San Diego and L.A. and yet the only thing Americans seem concerned about is how it will affect their vacations! Is the Obama administration doing ANYTHING to address this war or are we just pretending the domestic disturbance next door is none of our business? If all we are doing is jailing asylum seekers and beefing up the border patrol to deport busboys and construction workers, then our legislators are still dangerously foolish and blind. |
Louise Woo
posted 11:27 AM on 03/04/09
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Americans must have a passport to cross |
Tom Colton
posted 12:49 AM on 03/04/09
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I'm not sure how the average american would get or sell a grenade or launcher. I keep hearing that the straw buyers are getting the guns for Mexico. It's not clear to me how this buyer gets military weapons to sell. |
Jim Cox
posted 6:26 PM on 03/03/09
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Do you see any change in US policy toward the drug war with the new cabinet and new Homeland Security secretary? are they more focused on this problem than their predecessors were? |
Joe
posted 5:38 PM on 03/03/09
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With all respect, we need to search more about Chihuahua Chihuahua city. In that city has been happening very bad things like decapitated people leaving their heads in monuments, In Chihuahua Chihuahua almost every morning you will find out 10 people died. Is not all about Juarez City |
Noel Aguilera
posted 1:58 PM on 03/03/09
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I would not travel to MEXICO at this time, just out of common sense. If America makes Pot legal with a medical card or NOT, the drug traffic from Mexico will at the very least, be much less! The amount of pot that Mexico smuggles across the border is outstanding. |
Kathryn Woodyard
posted 11:58 AM on 03/03/09
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Please people, let's really push our government to legalize drugs.The controlled distribution of marijuana (similar to alcohol ) could generate the profits needed for the more complicated idea of clinics that dispense and offer treatment to narcotic addicts. |
Stop the madness
posted 7:28 AM on 03/03/09
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In 1995 in Los Angeles County I fell victim to a home invasion that almost turned into a kidnapping. I escaped...Today as I read and listen to the elements of this practice it turns my stomach. The simple fact that todays economic downturn has displaced many honest people and has left a high turnover of tenants/owners. These homes that where perhaps once used by a narco is looked at by a group of thugs as a "hit" a "score", not knowing if the occupants are the same or not. My home invasion turned out to be, "the wrong house". I feel the average law abiding US citizen needs to open their eyes to what is happening here in yourtown, USA! |
Rob
posted 8:39 PM on 03/02/09
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Do we honestly see any end to this violence any time soon? |
anthony ibarra
posted 6:54 PM on 03/02/09
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I am the son of a Mexican National that migrated to the US in the late 60's. While growing up in L.A. I would frequently visit family in Mexico both in large cities and remote "pueblos". I've seen from men in 3 piece suits closing drug deals to peasants emulating a drug lord(Tony Montana), pathetic! |
Rob
posted 3:22 PM on 03/02/09
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james carmen
posted 8:09 AM on 03/02/09
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| Staff reply:
Check out our previous responses to travel questions: the U.S. State Dept. travel advisory is your best source. In general, the tourism centers such as Cozumel and Cancun have a very good reputation for security. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:52 PM on 03/02/09
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Well... I was not surprised to read this article. I and my friends have travelled to Mexico many, many times and I have always felt it to be safe enough and have mostly stayed north of Puerto Vallarta. The last visit we went to Tulum and on our way back into the airport to drop off passengers and then again to get ourselves back to the airport after dropping off the rental car we got stopped by the police. Inside the airport!! We were shocked by the behavior and of course the cops wanted the "mordida", the pay off, but we absolutely refused and got out of the car on the freeway. The cops got a little flustered and finally after 1/2 hour sitting there they let us go. BUT... it made me think twice about going back there. If you can't trust the police, WTF. You're absolutely on your own and Mexico is not a place I would want to be on my own right now. Our vacation plans for the next year or so will definitely not include anywhere in Mexico and our plans to invest and buy property down there have come to a screeching halt. My question is... Really, what is there to do about the problem? The drug trade used to just pass through Mexico, now the Mexicans want a piece of the pie and seem to be taking advantage of the merchandise and all the negativity it brings with it. Too bad... Mexico is a dangerous place now. Too dangerous for my family. |
no mexico vacation for me
posted 6:50 AM on 03/02/09
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My family (mother,brother & sisters) have property in the state of Chihuahua. It is roughly about seven hours drive from the city of Juarez. Growing up we used to spend our summers there visiting family and enjoying a life style alot different from our own in California. Presently our family members in Mexico have told us to stay away and not visit or even stay on our own property at this time due to recent occurences of violence between drug gangs and criminals in general. Recently at a horse race at a town not to far from the town where we have a house people were robbed at gunpoint by hooded men with guns. Three people were shot and killed. If you stand out and look as if you may have money (american plates on a nice vehicle for example) you take the risk of being robbed or kidnapped for ransom. What a shame that it has come to this and this country is in this state. As much as I'd like to go and visit my safety is not worth the risk. |
Mike DLR
posted 12:21 AM on 03/01/09
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I would like to speak to the concern about traveling to Mexico. I lived in Nogales, Sonora across the border from Nogales, Arizona for about 16 months beginning in June 2007 working for a non-profit in a very poor neighborhood. The narco violence had already begun to escalate before I arrived but at no time did I feel unsafe. I lived with the locals as one of them and maybe I did not stand out too much as an American. The cartels had several shoot-outs with the police and military while I lived there and I would read about it in the papers. I spent all day with locals who "showed me the ropes", so that may have helped me adjust without fear of the increasing violence. I can imagine that being unfamiliar with the Mexican city one is visiting may increase one's concern of being a victim of a crime. When in downtown Nogales, I would be certain to be aware of my surroundings and I would avoid certain places known for criminal activity. It is the same wariness that I practice when visiting a U.S. city with which I am unfamiliar. It is common sense that if one associates with people involved in illegal activity, one might get in trouble or be injured. In my opinion, it is not probable that I will be kidnapped or shot when I'm in Mexico. KUDOS to the reporters of the L.A. Times for their excellent stories and photo essays. P.S. The most afraid I have been for my safety was in Baltimore, Maryland. |
Dale
posted 7:41 PM on 02/28/09
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Sir: I'm a firm believer that you cannot control that which you don't own. As an aging baby boomer, I have witnessed the lunacy of America's failed War on Drugs since the advent of the Nixon administration back in 1970. Evidently, we didn't learn anything from America's era of Prohibition, 1920-1933. We all pretty much know how that turned out. The answer it to allow these substances to be brought into the mainstream of American life. Each and every year some fifty thousand Americans die on our streets and highways. A like number die in homage to America's privilege to own and bear firearms. Drinking and driving has been an issue ever since old Bessie was put out to pasture and Farmer Brown drove his Model A to the local saloon. This is what happens in a government defined as a Democratic Republic. We understand that there will be casualties. The sanest course of action is to legalize, control and distribute marijuana, hashish and cocaine in the same manner beer, wine and liquor has been distributed since the mid 1930's. Besides, there isn't another nation on the face of this earth that imprisons more of its citizens then the good old USA. Over 7,000 deaths since just over a year ago? And that, evidently, is an acceptable cost borne of this failed war on drugs. I would suggest to you that those seven thousand human beings that died in service to this failed effort would have preferred to live out their lives with their loved ones. Conversely, should there be a like number of casualties among those that choose to do drugs, and they die, that is their choice. Not yours or mine or any one else’s. And that sir is Democracy in motion. Sacrificing a Mothers son in support of failed foreign policy is not. End the war on drugs. Simply assimilate the more popular drugs in demand to the same government entity that defines rule and regulation of law for beer, wine and liquor. Besides, we don’t have the financial resources to prosecute this failed policy. We need the tax revenues that these substances would provide. We are, by way of failed right wing policy, now a debtor nation. We deregulated ourselves to this standard. In less than a decade we went from a world super power to a nation bereft of law and order and cash in the bank, by way of one ill advised tax cut after another. End the War on Drugs. |
Seàn Roulette
posted 6:39 PM on 02/28/09
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Sir I am working on a senior project about the Mexican Drug Cartels and the Effect they have on both sides of the US/Mexican Border. My question to you is if you think that the cartel related violence such as murders and kidnappings will spread into the United States soon and if so, do you think the Zetas have alot to do with it? |
Sabas Torres
posted 4:36 PM on 02/28/09
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My son is 17 and leaving for cozumal on March 11th for spring break I have heard that some colleges or urging students not to go to mexico at all during their spring break. what is you opinion? |
donna
posted 12:53 PM on 02/28/09
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Here is a petition to sign to legalize marijuana in California - no, you do not have to be a resident of CA. http://apps.facebook.com/causes/petitions/92?m=ea0d0b17 Regarding Mexico's "war on drugs." Yes, it is entirely all about DRUGS. But, war mongers (Mexico and US "leaders") think only in terms of war. Therefore, their approach to this crisis caused BY drug prohibition is WAR. To them, it does not matter if their war wins, loses or is successful, what matters is that they can be "at war." War gives them their fix for their addiction to controlling other people. War also means a "fight to the end." Are they still breathing? It is NOT the end. Are they still fighting? It is NOT the end. Both these countries' "leaders" will suck down their respective nations and put both of their entire citizen populations at the highest risk possible. They will jeopardize (as they have already done and are now doing) the lives of every Mexican and American man, woman and child.... so THEY can continue "warring." ONLY solution: Fire and dismiss the "leaders" at the government level. Bring in a sensible and reasonable government (Holland - Queen Beatrix) to manage both these countries. Then, put on trial all the former "leaders" for crimes against humanity. Seek full financial restitution for the pain and suffering and material losses these "leaders" and their forerunners have caused, going back into the early 1900s. Give them ALL *multi-decade* prison sentences to be served in full with no chance of parole. Fully legalize, control and regulate ALL drugs now on "illegal" and "prohibition" status, thereby entirely removing, dismantling and eliminating the black market locally and globally. Until these steps are taken, EXPECT to continue living in the pain and misery and suffering these "leaders," their "war" and this "drug prohibition" brings upon you daily. Fairminded |
Fairminded
posted 9:13 AM on 02/28/09
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We ought to considered that although we don't want this drug war to effect us, we are the ones arming the cartels through the endless gun shops that line the US side of the border. |
Barbara
posted 1:13 AM on 02/28/09
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The cartels are obviously in it for the money. How can we change the economics of the illegal drug industry? Which drugs are the most profitable and what percentages of overall income does each one produce? If we know which drugs are most profitable, we can concentrate enforcement efforts and policymaking on them first. For example, what affect, if any, would legalizing marajauna have on the economics of the Mexican cartels? |
Steve Ocean
posted 12:14 AM on 02/28/09
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Geoff and Sam, I am heeding my own advice and commenting on possible solutions rather than simply griping and the like. I nearly fell out of my chair tonight while watching the McLaughlin News Hour tonight. They touched on the issue of Mexico and I couldn't believe my ears listening to Pat Buchanan. "The solution is succession of Mexico..." What? That's going to help? The problem, we all agree starts with drugs, right? Drugs go to America for consumption. But there's not much being done to stem the tide except to make the end consumer a felon from what I see. So by stepping in down here, what in the world could you possibly do to make the problem go away? First, just stop the guns from coming in, period. But more importantly, Mexico needs to step it up and begin helping there own right away. The easiest way to do that is by Mexico requiring all of these American companies that have set up shop here to start paying the same federal wages for the same jobs done here as they do up there. Right now, they get away with paying just 55 pesos per day. About $4.oo usd per day, that's it! If they don't ante up, then, A FUERA! GET OUT! Imagine if someone could earn $300 per week here for the same job for the same company to the north. I'm sure the "Soup Maker" would've taken a $100.00 less per week scanning items at a check out line, given the chance. Mexico has to stop being bullied by it's big next door neighbor and tell them, "You want to stay, You've got to pay!" Having this opportunity would cease giving these narco jobs and the money they offer such a pull to everyone who wants to make more than $20usd a week. It would make the families of Mexico so much happier to be sure. |
G.E.M.
posted 7:08 PM on 02/27/09
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Do you think the current actions taken by the Mexican goverment to face cartel drugs are in the right direction? |
jesus antonio rodriguez loya
posted 3:52 PM on 02/27/09
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It’s true what LA Time is informing in this Mexican Drug War, It’s all true. LA Times is doing a great job. But I have a few Comments and Questions: I’ll said the Main Business is here in US and because of that the drug war in Mexico is not going to finish Until US corrupted politicians are arrested, and I said Politicians because they Are the BIG FISHES not the drug dealers. Mexican Politicians Are Corrupt and make a lot of money but don’t forget that the real business is here in the US. There is a Mexican News papers that really do the investigation job, not Mexican authorities, one of them is “Z” from Tijuana. It’s Ok to inform what is happening in Mexico but It will be better if LA Times informs what is happening in home, don’t you think? |
Christian
posted 12:55 PM on 02/27/09
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It’s true what LA Time is informing in this Mexican Drug War, It’s all true. LA Times is doing a great job. But I have a few Comments and Questions: I’ll said the Main Business is here in US and because of that the drug war in Mexico is not going to finish Until US corrupted politicians are arrested, and I said Politicians because they Are the BIG FISHES not the drug dealers. Mexican Politicians Are Corrupt and make a lot of money but don’t forget that the real business is here in the US. There is a Mexican News papers that really do the investigation job, not Mexican authorities, one of them is “Z” from Tijuana. It’s Ok to inform what is happening in Mexico but It will be better if LA Times informs what is happening in home, don’t you think? |
Christian
posted 10:55 AM on 02/27/09
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Geoff Mohan
posted 1:32 PM on 03/02/09
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My husband is coming to Mexico next weekend on a church mission trip and I was wondering if he needed a passport because of the increased security measures. |
cassie jordan
posted 10:24 AM on 02/27/09
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Passports are now required to re-enter the United States at the Mexico border. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:22 PM on 03/02/09
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seriously, annex the northern 2/3 of Mexico where the drug cartels thrive and clean house. their corrupt and frieghtened government is impotent. legalizing marijuana is good, it would not then be a 'gateway' drug; because it would be legal: like beer. eliminate the hope of youth to be wealthy dealing illegal drugs; and perhaps they will go back to school! no criminals are untouchable. murder is intolerable. move our southern border south another 500 miles and round the cartels up. |
larry giglio
posted 10:04 AM on 02/27/09
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me and my friends planned on going to south padre island, texas for spring break, is it going to be safe? |
M
posted 9:54 AM on 02/27/09
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I find it interesting that the new administration-Eric Holder in particular-are using the increasing violence to push an anti-civil-rights agenda in the form of re-authorizing the ban on "assault" weapons. Leaving aside the question of complicity by the Venezuelan government under Hugo Chavez (who purchased over 100,000 assault rifles from Russia and is setting up factories to make more) in extensive regional arms trafficking, the Mexican government is encouraging this dishonesty, while at the same time decrying any attempt to station troops on the border. There is an unconscionable level of northbound traffic in illegal immigrants, which our elected officials seem unwilling to stop, as well as the traffic in drugs. This same mindset permits easy traffic in weapons southwards. In addition, we have stringent laws in place regarding "straw" purchases of firearms; both the (illegal) recipient and the (legal) purchaser in such schemes-which are also how U.S. gangs get their guns-are liable for ten years in the penitentiary for EACH GUN transferred in this manner. Why are such sentences not being handed out? Why ten months, or fifteen months? Why, when licensed dealers alert Federal authorities to suspected straw sales, is there such a level of non-response? I have talked with gun dealers who have found themselves in this curious position. Also, possession of a firearm with a defaced or obliterated serial number is a Federal felony carrying a five-year sentence for EACH GUN thus defaced. Why is the law not being applied to the fullest extent against those who engage in this practice? A few years ago, an American tourist was jailed for 10 years by Mexican authorities because a SINGLE ROUND of ammunition was found in his vehicle, the result of an honest oversight. Why is it so difficult for them to apprehend carloads of rifles and pistols? Yet, in spite of the foregoing, it is we, the law-abiding citizens who choose to exercise our right to keep and bear arms, who are once again becoming the whipping boy for our government's failure to apply the law in full measure to those who break it. Why do you suppose this is? |
John W.
posted 2:43 AM on 02/27/09
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I hear that the violent climate in Zacatecas has lessened quite a bit. The story that came out in LA Times today is a month too late. Federal soldiers have gotten control of situation and are snipping out copycats too. Zacatecas was once one of the safest states in Mexico...hope it can return to that. It is beautiful. |
Concerned
posted 11:30 PM on 02/26/09
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Great letters lately. "Nate" your letter was a gut check. With the announcement of the banker in Texas in trouble lately with his possible connections to laundered money on the nightly news rings true. With this huge bust made in the last 48 hrs, things are cringy, to say the least. Going thru the toll booth out of Ensenada this morning was, I would say, at code RED. It took nearly 15 mins just to get past it. Normally I take rte 3 north, and it's not quite as robust. However, last week, the boys at the Army checkpoint actually pulled out a "divining rod" for marijuana. They, in (Mexico) are holding up their end of the Merida Initiative. They have certainly beefed upped their efforts to stem the flow of drugs north. I believe Presidente Calderon is honest in his efforts in cleaning up the mess in Mexico. No one has spoken, that I've seen, about the plane crash of his supposed replacement. Everyone in Mexico believes it was narco behaivor at its best. Didn't the FAA come in to look it over? I haven't read anything about it as of late. I appreciate everyone's calls and concerns for what has been transpiring as of late, now, let's talk about solutions, rather than griping and asking questions. |
G.E.M.
posted 7:23 PM on 02/26/09
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I have read a few "legalize drugs" comments, nonsense! If you had a family member, loved one, or friend destroyed by the disease of drug addiction you would never write such a stupid comment. This mess is the fault of the drug users in AMERICA. You all have blood on your hands. |
Digialpha
posted 6:11 PM on 02/26/09
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What are the chances of a vigilante group like Columbia's "Los Pepes" appearing to meet out justice. I have heard reports saying "Los Pepes" were actually members of the Columbian special forces trained, by the US, to combat Pablo Escobar's drug cartel. |
Digialpha
posted 6:06 PM on 02/26/09
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Thank goodness for the LA Times! What an informative and excellent series. Thank you for keeping the reporting impartial. I am tired of reading right wing rants masquerading as journalism. Bet you will never see a report as good as this one on FOX NEWs. Tell that to former LA Times reporter now FOX11 "reporter" John Schwada. |
SayNoDruggies
posted 6:00 PM on 02/26/09
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I am for the Cartel member leadership already in custody to be Whipped 50 lashes each. Then to the firing squad ! These vermin are nothing but a bad influence in our SO.CAL communties. They entice and sell filth to our latino youths causing the failure of so many young people to finish there education up to the 12th grade. College is out of the picture when ones mind has been damaged by drug abuse. To the firing squad for everyone of these miscreants! One must be tough in the most extreme sense if we want to kill this serpent. sincerely, Carlos R |
Carlos Romero
posted 5:51 PM on 02/26/09
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is stuff going on in Cabo? |
tamera
posted 3:34 PM on 02/26/09
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Geoff Mohan
posted 4:56 PM on 02/26/09
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Is it safe traveling to Cancun? |
Yolanda Rodriguez
posted 2:07 PM on 02/26/09
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Check the U.S. State Department's travel advisory. Cancun is not immune to drug-related violence, as the slaying of a retired army general earlier this month testifies. But the tourist areas of Cancun are strictly policed and well insulated, thus far, from the seamier side of life in the Yucatan peninsula. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:54 PM on 02/26/09
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It is important for the people to know that the violence is far away from the tourist destinations. Mexico receives 23 million visitors per year and the number of incidents are minimal. There are problems related to drug cartels in certain towns and the people that is getting killed is related to this, not the tourists. I have gone many times to Mexico to places such as Cancun, Los Cabos and Riviera Maya and I have never have any incident. I guess people should use common sense and take the necessary precautions as when traveling to any country in the world. For the people thinking on going to Rocky Point, know that you don't drive by the "problem towns," so it is safe to go there. |
sbrown
posted 1:59 PM on 02/26/09
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I cannot belive that at this point it does sound like all the goverment in Zacatecas is corrupted and nobody seems to do anything about it. Maybe it will be a good idea for President Obama sends military to Zacatecas and take care of business. All of "Los Zetas" need to be taken out since they are spreading like cockroaches and the goverment is letting that happen. What a shame, Zacatecas is a peacefull, fun, place to live and to visit as well. Now everyone who planned their vacations every year do not want to risk by going to Zacatecas because of the Kidnapping that's been happening. I hope the President Calderon and Presidnt Obama can work together on stopping this horrible thing happening not only in Zacatecas but all over the world. |
Abby
posted 10:27 AM on 02/26/09
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Part of what inspired us to look into this story was the email we were getting from Zacatecans living in L.A. and the U.S. who said their families back home were suffering and that the fear of kidnapping was rampant. |
Tracy Wilkinson
posted 4:33 PM on 02/26/09
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Where is the money coming from? Are we as a society (U.S. Drug Consumer) responsible for financing the Mexican Drug Cartels with money coming out from our own pockets and drug habits? Is the more serious issue not in violent Mexico, but rather in our feverish consumption and ever growing demand for drugs? As long as we demand drugs there will be a supply. Why do we consume so many drugs (illegal and prescribed)? Before we point the finger at neighboring nations, why don't we stop and ask ourselves if we have a disease at home? Why don't we institute policies and research towards finding the best "cure" for our feverish thirst for drug consumption in our own society? No demand = no supply. Could it be not in our best interest to eradicate the lucrative business (unofficially, illegal drug trade is the second largest economy after oil) because it contributes a big chunk of cash to the Global Financial Institutions? Are happy, fulfilled persons less likely to fall into drug-addiction? Are we implementing or adhering to modes of life that create little or no true happiness and fulfillment? For example, how can any kid in our society be happy when he comes from school to a lonely (void) home and feel neglected because both his parents (or single parent) must work (opening up a window for trouble), and then parents are too tired or overwhelmed and unable to spend quality time with their most precious investment (their kids). Maybe if we spent more time with our kids (and worried less about consumption of all sorts), our demand for drugs would sharply decline? But who has time for "that" in our "rush-rush" society when most people are struggling to keep their neck above the "bills"? |
Henry Thomas
posted 9:55 AM on 02/26/09
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All good questions. The bottom line is the money comes from users, as you say. Consumption of drugs north of the border keeps the traffickers rich south of the border. Drug control policy in the United States has largely been focused on squeezing the supply side and driving up the price of narcotics. Treatment and prevention have not received an equal amount of funding and that has led to some vocal criticism of the U.S. model. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:23 PM on 02/26/09
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I have a group of 30 going south of Ensenada to Maneadero for spring break. We are staying in a labor camp. Have there been any violent incidences in that area? I cannot get a clear vocal on my computer. I know it is hard to say go or not go so I am asking of the occurence of incidences in Baja just south of Ensenada. We drive on the toll road except from the Tecate border crossing through Tiajuana . Thanks for your reply. |
Judi Vaccaro
posted 9:14 AM on 02/26/09
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It is hard to rule anything out, but in general, violence is much less frequent as you get away from Tijuana and Rosarito Beach, and many people report back to us that they have had no trouble traveling in Baja. That said, check the U.S. State Department travel advisory for a more complete set of precautions, including this: "U.S. citizens should make every attempt to travel on main roads during daylight hours, particularly the toll ("cuota") roads, which generally are more secure." |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:31 PM on 02/26/09
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Legalizing drugs will not turn these hardnened criminals into Boy Scouts overnight. They will still thirst for power, lust and money and I can't see them becoming perfect citizens. Take away their drug trade and they WILL find another way of earning millions - perhaps kidnappings (which they are already proficient in) and perhaps child pornography or child prostitution. All I'm saying is don't expect these ruthless cartels to suddenly become law-abiding citizens. |
Luis Gonzalez
posted 8:20 AM on 02/26/09
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Excellent point. One argument pro-legalization advocates offer is the Prohibition example. By that model, repeal of Prohibition laws eliminated bootlegging controlled by organized crime. The counter-argument: organized crime moved on to other lucrative businesses and remains strong today. Lost in the debate over criminalization vs. legalization, however, is the vast middle ground: treatment, prevention, education. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:39 PM on 02/26/09
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I want to thank the LA Times and the reporters in Mexico that risk their lives to keep a spotlight on the drug-related violence occurring in Mexico. Good luck getting this type of in-depth coverage on CNN or Faux News. I also would like to say that I think it is time that we let our lawmakers and President Obama know that we desire a change in current drug policy. We need to write letters to them letting them know that decades of just sending more guns and money to law enforcement and the military in Mexico has not worked, and that is time to address the real cause of the drug wars in Mexico: US addiction to illicit drugs. Treat this as a medical problem, not a law enforcement problem. No more demand of illicit drugs= no more drug trafficking= no more drug cartels and associated violence. Also, stop throwing low level drug users in prisons for decades and instead, rehab them into productive participants of society. And demand them to order the DEA to stop arresting cancer patients and busting medicinal marijuana dispensaries and to go after truly violent drug traffickers instead. Lastly, let us send a message to our lawmakers to please legalize marijuana for reasons many users here have already stated. So please, to all of you that are also disillusioned with our government's policy, contact your legislators and the president and tell them so. It's not enough to just simply comment here but do nothing at the end of the day. |
Daniel
posted 2:28 AM on 02/26/09
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Thanks, Daniel. As you can see, this has been a big topic of late. Quite a few people have made the same criticism in different forums - that the United States ought to address this as a domestic public health issue, not just an external security threat. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:44 PM on 02/26/09
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This ties in nicely with the banking issue in our own country. The cartels are the only cash left in the Mexican banks (one of which Banamex, was recently rumored to be for sale by Citi). The cartels have the country by the cajones, government pushes too hard, banking system collapses. Say what you will about bankers, but if the cartels pull several BILLION (with a B) out of the banks, the Mexican economy goes in the crapper... right next door. Think we have an immigration problem now? |
Nate
posted 11:57 PM on 02/25/09
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hello. space is limmitted- annex northern 2/3 of Mexico:regain'sucking- sound' factories,end mucho corruption, triumph over economic woes; caused by so many illegals; get General Motors to offer special turret Silverado(Ford is in better shape),start getting used to siestas to relieve the stress that is causing so much overeating of these wonderful American foods; i'm southbound.we are expanding the great state of New Mexico.hallelulia.people in Maine- warm weather land- cheap! |
larry giglio
posted 10:34 PM on 02/25/09
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What doesn't seem to get covered is the problem that the very wealthy in Mexico have avoided taking any responsibility for those less well off. They exploit them and protect themselves but seem to have no notion of community never mind country. That can't last and yet those at the top continue to ignore the fact that their days are numbered. The are too many narco crooks for the wealthy to handle. |
h. holmes
posted 9:38 PM on 02/25/09
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Please legalize and tax drugs to save our economy and Mexico then change the Drug Enforcement Agency to the Drug Education Agency. http://www.trafford.com/06-1953 |
Ray T.
posted 3:52 PM on 02/25/09
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Are there any risks for Christian groups doing mission work in Tijuana? How can a group doing mission work stay safe? |
Kale
posted 6:47 AM on 02/24/09
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Check the State Department's travel advisory. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:17 PM on 02/26/09
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is it safe to go to rocky point for spring break this year? |
rachel
posted 9:41 AM on 02/23/09
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Check out the U.S. State Department's travel advisory for Mexico. You may want to scroll through some previous answers to this most-frequently-asked question. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:06 PM on 02/23/09
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Mexico is bringing drugs into the US and our prisons are filled with people who commit crimes while on drugs. Drugs are all over our schools. The US should help Mexico fight these drug lords and the drug dealers who are pedaling this poison. We should help their government clean this up. They are right next to us and helping them stop these evil drug sellers would help us. I say help and support Mexico in ridding the world of this evil. These dealers have no conscience and should be stopped. |
Sara
posted 7:05 AM on 02/23/09
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The U.S. government offers financial aid and intelligence, most recently through Plan Merida. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:11 PM on 02/23/09
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Sam and Geoff, It seems you respond mostly on this page, so here I go: Firstly; To those of you who know what gem is, I am not that old man. Yet I, too, am one, " A gringo in Mexico". Carnival, here in Ensenada has been most fun, and to those of you too afraid of traveling down south for our celebration out of fear, you missed out. Yet, you have 2 days left. Please understand that 99% of the violence you hear or read about, it is directed to it's own. If you keep your nose clean, you will have no problems in this stretch of Southern California. Albiet, I'm married to a Mexican, this has not, in out year+ of marriage, played a part. Infact, I have never had a negative, nor any contact with the police. Baja California is (90)% dependent upon tourism, however, just like anywhere else, there are are a few bad apples in the bin. Recently, my Uncle visited me from Oregon and he broke down in tears upon his arrival here. He saw the life here, but his tears were that of joy and, quite frankly, jealosly. He saw how happy the people of Mexico were. He saw the fish market, and how they sold all catches, not just select catches, thrown back dead. He just might move here too. It's a beautiful country with even better people with a very bad rap. Mexico is now caught in the middle. Enforcement of the border has slowed the flow of drugs north, they then are stuck here. There is no help to speak of for addicts here currently. Mexico is suffocating presently. It is sad, yet true. |
G.E.M.
posted 7:32 PM on 02/22/09
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Good points, GEM. We are not advising people either way about traveling to Baja. As you can see from previous comments and responses, we suggest people take a look at the U.S. State Department's travel advisory and exercise caution. The last time we mentioned that tourists have not been attacked, we heard from a couple people who were caught up in the violence, or were close by when violence erupted. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:54 PM on 02/23/09
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if i tell you where one of theme how much would you give me 50000 |
LilDaniel
posted 3:02 PM on 02/21/09
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how come the united states instead of doing something about it praises the "effort" that noone is seeing from the mexican government,it makes me really mad to even hear the president felipe calderon to say that everthing is under control in mexico after the killing of children,the u.s.a should stop giving money to mexico because all that money goes to corrupt government officials,is there anything we can do to stop the waste of money going to mexico? |
jose diaz
posted 11:18 AM on 02/21/09
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Every time aid to Mexico comes up in Congress, there is a lively debate about corruption. Thus far, U.S. officials seem to have decided that non-cooperation would be disastrous, and that they have to trust Mexican institutions, however flawed they have been in the past. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:30 PM on 02/23/09
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El problema de las drogas y su contrabando no va parar mientras existan los politicos corruptos que estan amafiados con los mismos contrabandistas de drogas. Porque este es un buen negocio para ellos y sus fraternidades. |
Juan
posted 11:08 AM on 02/21/09
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who do you believe is responsible for all the kidnappings and murders of the women of Juarez? |
kaylee martinez
posted 9:55 AM on 02/21/09
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lo que esta pasando es que Mexico va a ser una nacion bajo el control completo de los narcos. Mexico no puede ganar la guerra por la corrupcion de los mejicanos, y EU va a ser un third world country porque estan tan pendejos que dan todo gratis a la gente que no tiene derecho estar aqui....que van a hacer? aguantar. y el muro no sirve porque los narcos ya saben brincarlo. aver si Obama les salva. que chistoso |
Lalo
posted 7:29 AM on 02/21/09
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Do you think that the us government should get involved in this war? |
Jaime Ortiz
posted 8:07 PM on 02/20/09
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Is the United States going to intervene? |
Sylvia
posted 2:48 PM on 02/20/09
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What should people do if they get an extortion threat, my friends in Tijuana were called by an x person who demanded $5,000 dollars or else they will take his wife. This x person told them not to call the police, but they went to the "policia judicial" anyway,who can not do anything until the kidnapping takes place, then they will receive the complain. My friends left for good, should people leave their home, pets, all of their belongings behind and escape in fear? |
marie asport
posted 2:26 PM on 02/20/09
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If you do illegal drugs you are contributing to this problem and indirectly supporting these murderous drug gangs. Please think about that the next time you take a toke or do a line or two. Bottom line: no demand, no drug gangs. |
Michael Hurley
posted 11:24 AM on 02/20/09
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Hi Mr. Mohan- I'm a student at the University of San Diego, just attended the event that was held tonight with the Trans-Border Institute and was hoping that you could answer a question that I didn't have time to ask. Regarding the Merida initiative, is it possible for it to be reformed or tweaked at this point? With Obama as our President now, what are the odds that the funds will not just go towards more guns, but also towards more rehabilitation programs? Tonight you touched on common perceptions that people have concerning potential solutions to the drug war- the two extremes of either more military confrontation or legalizing certain drugs- and your good point sparked something in my mind: maybe implementing treatment into the whole strategy is one of the best shots that Mexico and the U.S. have to start saving lives down south. Thanks so much for taking the time to come to USD- I hope you and your colleagues return for another event! |
Erin Sigman
posted 12:58 AM on 02/20/09
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Sorry I missed your question. Anything is possible with a new Congress, and there have been rumblings already about reconsidering aid to Mexico and drug-war funding in general. While he was in the Senate, Joe Biden ordered up a review of Plan Colombia, and the GAO found that by several measures, it had not lived up to its goals. I suppose that could mean he is somewhat skeptical, and may continue to be so, as vice president. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:20 PM on 02/24/09
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Mexico is a wealthy country. Thru the years it could have easily created decent paying jobs for their people. Instead they let them risk their lifes to cross the border just to feed their families. Is it any wonder that some of the policemen ask for bribes. That was part of their pay. And also money that was spent in Mexico. It is not hard to corrupt people who are poor. And see selling drugs or being in the drug business as a way to provide for their families. |
Myke
posted 12:55 PM on 02/19/09
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I just read your column today, and am amazed at all the information available on the topic of drug-related problems in Mexico. I've spent an equal amount of time living and experiencing life on both sides of the border, and can tell you without any doubt that the current problems are a consequence of many issues: demand for drugs from the U.S., lack of opportunities for less privileged segments of society in Mexico, loss of social values, resulting in a corrupt society, police force, government, etc., to name a few. It's no secret to anyone that not all 110 million Mexicans are corrupt and criminals, only a very small percentage; most of the population is still hard working, honest, and want to live in peace. The notion that everything is corrupt and rotten, is a misconception; unfortunately the actions of a few are giving the country a very bad reputation, as it has been for many years. I don't agree with the title "Mexican Drug War", I believe this is an "American Drug War", after all we share a border, a culture and an economy. Will these problems spill over into the U.S.? without a doubt, if they haven't already; look at what's happening in Phoenix. More needs to be done from both governments. The Mexican government needs to set the example at home, to reign in corruption and provide more opportunities. The U.S. government needs to stop blaming the Mexican government and start acting before it's too late. |
David Thorne
posted 12:37 PM on 02/19/09
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Have you ever been involved in situations where you don't know what to do during or after finding out that a bigger fish (drug dealer) is reported to be in town and the local police is protecting everything around him, including the press? |
Miguel Carbajal
posted 12:17 PM on 02/19/09
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So where are the solutions? The only thing I hear is more money to kill the drug dealers. I think the story is great, but you have completely missed what should have been an obvious solution. Legalize, regulate, tax. When the price drops due to bulk, legal purchases, there is no profit in running drugs. Especially if you consider the U.S. could get much of it's supply from the U.S. There will always be demand for drugs. Always has, always will. If we spend 1/5th the resources on education and addiction treatment that we spend on this ignorant drug war, we would all be better off. |
Glen
posted 11:58 AM on 02/19/09
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We ran a series of essays that offered a few views on solutions to Mexico's predicament. It might be worth another view. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:31 PM on 02/24/09
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MY DAUGHTER AND GRAND DAUGHTER ARE IN HILDAGO, MEXICO. IS IT SAFE FOR THEM TO TAKE A BUS FROM MONTERREY TO LAREDO, TX? THEY NEED TO COME BACK TO JOPLIN, MO. |
DOLLY
posted 11:17 AM on 02/19/09
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This America's war as much as it is Mexico's! Americans are naive and ignornat of what is really going on. I lived in Mexico for 10 years (no I am not Mexican, nor for that matter American) and I now live in the US. The major problem with the drug trade is economics, namely, SUPPLY and DEMAND. No demand from America, no drug wars! America makes up 5% of the world's population, yet, alarming enough, CONSUMES 95% of the illicit drugs produced globally. WHERE IS THE REAL PROBLEM? MEXICO OR AMERICA? |
Clint Ruin - Austin,TX
posted 11:14 AM on 02/19/09
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What if all perspectives on this phenomenon converge on the drug trades and fail to consider other dynamics, such as the convenience of killing to solve problems; the urge to kill because of practice of killing; a historical culture of violence, for example? Cloning this activity from the supply of and demand for drugs to produce clarity leaves too many other factors in the dark. |
burningrabbit
posted 10:30 AM on 02/19/09
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Is it correct that in Arizona is now |
judy codd
posted 10:22 AM on 02/19/09
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Foreign Nationals should be prohibited from purchasing property in the States. This eliminates the Mexicant's Mafia style integration. Secondly, The Meth coming in from Mexico sucks. The US made stuff was better. As long as there was local supply and export grade distribution the Mexicant's Mafia didn't have a chance. Congress and the police legislated controls to shut local production down. Economics 101. Oh DUHHH. Of course Congress and the cops don't really have a clue. In the end drugs will win out because drugs always have. Just as stupidity has always resisted education. In the United States, both go hand in hand |
Bob
posted 9:21 AM on 02/19/09
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Congratulations to the "Times" for this interview format. And congratulations to Bartletti for his continued excellence in photojournalism. Those of us that knew him from his San Diego days are extremely proud of him! |
Isaac Artenstein
posted 9:10 AM on 02/19/09
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Can the drug problem in Mexico be due to the somewhat legalization of marijuana in many states in the US? Demand for "Mexican" marijuana must be down, and cartels are forced to try to make a profit by now retailing it in their very ranches, towns and cities? oppose to exporting it? |
Arturo Beltran
posted 7:03 AM on 02/19/09
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I used to plan trips a couple of times a year driving down to Ensenada or Puerto Santo Tomas...but no more. I miss those trips immensely, and understand that the majority of people cross the border safely. But the fear of what has been happening keeps me away. I hope the problem is addressed on on both sides of the border, supply and demand. |
Falcon
posted 7:02 AM on 02/19/09
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Why is the US not doing more to deal with the demand side of the problem. And why has the US not done more (anything) to stop the constant flow of weapons that have empowered the gangs. For all of the constant drumming of Mexico not enough is being done to help, when as we all know the problem is right there in the mirror. I have lived in Mexico for almost 20 years and must say things are much different here than the scary stories the media drums into you daily. For Valentines Day the resturants were packed.. Life goes on. The US needs to stop the finger pointing and do something tangible to help Mexico deal with the problem the US drug consumers have laid on their door. Merida Initiative gives 400 million this year in broken down equipment to Mexico, where as the estimates for US consumption in close to 50 BILLION annually.. Does it make sense to spend 1/2 of 1% to try and stem the trade?? Isnt this sad.. |
Max K
posted 7:00 AM on 02/19/09
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Thats what the world is afraid of.If they destoyed the opium fields in Afganistan there will be a underworld war,all over the continent,so they clean each other up whats wrong with that.. |
anthony bauwens
posted 4:59 AM on 02/19/09
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On behalf of all the citizens in The Village Of Columbus we so appreciate Scott Kraft's article shedding the much needed light on our border war and police-less condition brought on by our Mayor, Eddie Espinoza. We need all the help we can get to save this historical village ironically located at the crossroads of hwys 9&11! Visit our web site and our public forum "The Village Voice" to read about our fight to save The Village from the hands of our current civic administration and the pending spill-over of violence from Mexico. www.ColumbusNewMexico.com Thanks Scott and The LA Times! |
Addison B. Bachman
posted 4:54 AM on 02/19/09
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I got into a debate with a buddy of mine about the relative safety of visiting Mexico or Venezuela. I said Mexico is more dangerous in general for a tourist. Who's right? |
Paul
posted 1:44 AM on 02/19/09
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First, I just want to say that I really liked this format for the interview. Second I would like to ask, when shooting in these dangerous situations, do you find yourself using a long lens to keep at a safe distance or do you jump right in with a short one? |
Richard
posted 11:43 PM on 02/18/09
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Pull our troops out of Iraq (what have they been doing there, anyway?) and invade Mexico instead. Just a little help from a friend. |
A Tax Payer
posted 11:22 PM on 02/18/09
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Good Job Don, thanks, y'all do a great job at the times! |
Daniel W
posted 10:50 PM on 02/18/09
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I agree with Jaime Gonzalez...there would be no Mexican drug trade without the huge demand from north of the border. Duh...oh, and what about stopping illegal immigration by stopping the huge demand for cheap maids and gardeners up here? What a concept! The same logic goes for stopping the war in Iraq...stop driving gas guzzlers and the need to defend our oil interests in the middle east becomes far less important. The catch is that Americans would have to become aware of and responsible for the consequences of their tastes and habits and I don't see that happening anytime soon. |
Diane
posted 10:48 PM on 02/18/09
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DO YOU THINK IT WILL EVER STOP? |
MARIBEL ESPARZA
posted 10:34 PM on 02/18/09
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how about we supply the demand in beverly hills and malibu etc Jaime? If tobacco or cotton had been made illegal by great britain in the 1800s USA would be poorer than mexico is today. California's largest cash crop is already marijuana and has over 600 shops that sell it... |
Christian T
posted 10:28 PM on 02/18/09
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Thanks for all the hard work. But can we stop calling it "Mexico's Drug War"? This is OUR drug war, being fought in Mexico with Mexican blood. Without U.S. drug customers and the laws that make them criminals, there would be no drug war. |
Jim Houghton
posted 8:53 PM on 02/18/09
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Stop drug prohibition and the drug gangs will go away. Research the US alcohol prohibition failure! It helped create the Mafia. Legalize, tax and control drugs to get rid of the drug cartels. |
Jay Ray
posted 8:38 PM on 02/18/09
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It would be stupid of me to try to minimize the problems drugs have caused Mexico. But the market and the potential profits that can be made by getting the drugs over to the US side is what drives people to do what they do. Its really works like a business. One example could be lets say starbucks. AS we all now starbucks was hasn't been around for to long and yet they have invaded every corner of the country. people started drinking coffee and slowly became addicted in a sense and it became very popular that some people cannot not go through their daily lives without it ( addicted). Starbucks the dealer. Their potential profit increased exponentially as they set up more coffee shops. Now the economy is crashing and so is starbucks but luckily its addiction is minimal is not as great as say cocaine people can control their addiction . With more addictive substances it is very different and in the eyes of a businessman very profitable. |
realist
posted 6:48 PM on 02/18/09
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OK - Easy solution, and big revenues. |
Spike
posted 4:02 PM on 02/18/09
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What about covering the Drug DEMAND here in Beverly Hills, Malibu, etc.? |
Jaime Gonzalez
posted 3:48 PM on 02/18/09
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how safe is rocky point right now? |
nikki
posted 2:40 PM on 02/18/09
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What information is there on the relationship between Mexican drug cartels and Colombian terrorist organizations like FARC? |
David
posted 1:23 PM on 02/18/09
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The President wants to create jobs, so just go ahead and put enough border patrol guards, that every foot of the border will be covered, and every vehicle that comes in or out is checked thoroughly(not a quick once-over like they usually do now). If motorists are delayed, they would just have to be patient! Of course, there will always be border patrol guards that can be bought by the drug cartel's money and the gun smuggler's money, and a lot of this goes on and the government(US) I don't know about anyone else, but I have wondered a lot about how many of our elected officials, all over the US, are involved in the drug and gun smuggling trade.
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felicia johnson
posted 9:48 AM on 02/18/09
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this article implies that you need to grow your own.seams plausible to me ,if you smoke, don't import. grow it. |
sparky
posted 7:46 AM on 02/18/09
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why are the weapon's found in mexico not traced back to the dealer in the united ststes.which the majority of weapons originate.and why no regulation** |
johnqpublic
posted 1:18 AM on 02/18/09
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Why don't we arrest drug users in this country and force them to go to rehab. Technology is available now to monitor the location and blood content of drug users. If a drug user goes off the wagon, he is immediately arrested. The ankle bracelet with GPS will give the location. The importation of these drugs can be stopped. The political will to stop this tragic trade is what is needed. |
mgoldbeck
posted 12:39 PM on 02/17/09
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hi there...my daughter's high school youth group at church is planing a mission trip down to cofradia in june 2009. i'm a little concerned about allowing her to go on this trip amidst all of this drug-war violence as i know God is ultimately in control and her safety is in His hands. but i am curious how much of the violence is happening around the area she will be ...the interactive map you have in the web is a useful tool but doesn't allow me to drill-down by the area where she will be. do you have any insight or knowledge you can pass along? thx...and this "project" you guys are doing is worthy of some kind of journalism award (in my opinion). |
steven timm
posted 11:46 AM on 02/17/09
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How tragic to hear all the pain and suffering Mexico is experiencing from the greed of money and control of a country. I went to Mexico in January 2009 and to experience the love of my culture and people was beautiful. |
Emilia Maria
posted 11:01 AM on 02/17/09
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I still do not know why go after the big guys in the drug cartel world. You kill one and another takes his place. Mexican government, the non-corrupted and still alive, should simply apply their efforts on the small pie who uses drugs. Remove the buyer/user and the seller will be hurting for business. In any event, it is not an easy task. A country like Mexico has extreme violence not because they want to but because they have to do what they have to do to survive. All in all, blame it on the corruption of the high ranking officials who take money from the drug cartel people. Then again, if the Mexican government was not corrupted as it is and provided better funds to the little guy, maybe, the little guy would not be switching teams. |
8aV
posted 8:46 AM on 02/17/09
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i think there should have been some arest made. if they thought it was a retaliation why didn't they go after the people the cought saturday. |
mike g
posted 6:49 AM on 02/17/09
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Everything thats happening in Mexico has happened in Colombia.....look at whats happened in Colombia in the past 4 decades, To predict was going to happen in Mexico if thing don't change. Its going to get a hold lot worst before the Mexicans realize that nothing good comes out of a narco cartels, only incredible pain & suffering to its own citizens. |
Gabriel Abate
posted 8:38 PM on 02/16/09
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I have lived in Chihuahua, Mexico for 18 years. I am from the northern United States, I have always felt very safe here,safer than in the US. I have never paid any bribes and all the other nonsense I always hear. The police are very nice and respectful. |
margot
posted 6:51 PM on 02/16/09
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My old friend Don Bartletti, we delivered the Mpls Star newspaper from the same corner as young kids. Now he is a Pulitzer Prize winning photo-journalist. I'm proud to know him, we still keep in touch after about 45 years. Don, you do a wonderful, but dangerous job, may you stay out of harms way! Paul from Minnesota |
Paul Ryder
posted 6:09 PM on 02/16/09
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First, I would like to thank the L.A. Times for their in-depth coverage of the drug war in Mexico. My concern is not only for the innocent victims, but for journalists who are assigned to cover the murders and mayhem. Many Mexican journalists have become victims themselves. Is there any support being provided to them from U.S. journalism organizations or institutions? |
Prensa59
posted 8:21 PM on 02/15/09
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Indeed, attacks on the media in Mexico have been severe, and the country ranks as one of the most deadly for journalists, and the most deadly in the Americas. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:16 AM on 02/16/09
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Very good! Coverage of this problem is way over due. Why is the mainstream press staying away from the story? I suspect it has something to do with the future plans of our government to grant citizenship to illegals and open up the borders in the near future. I must say you folks at the Times is doing a great job with your website. That appears to be the future of the newspaper business and you are now "my home page". Good Job! |
Jim Ramsdell
posted 2:33 PM on 02/15/09
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My question is that if this is such a huge problem for the United States how will it eventually affect us in the Caribbean? We have a huge drug and gang problem of our own and a lot of the subversive activities we experience are being imported directly from the US when they post "educated" deportees back to us. |
Andrew Rory Jackman
posted 8:49 AM on 02/15/09
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Mexico's present gun laws prevent its law abiding citizens from owning guns. They can only stand and watch as automatic machine gunfire is sprayed upon them by the lawless narcos. The National Rifle Association should cite Mexico as the perfect example of their bumper sticker that states, "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." |
David
posted 1:39 AM on 02/15/09
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First of all, to solve any of this, I feel our nation is going to have to serously address the problem of illegal immigration. I know. I know. We'll probably see THAT when we see a snowman on the sun. We could start by DEPORTING the 14 million people who are here illegally rather than being blinded by bleeding heart liberalism and talking about giving them a "pathway to citizenship." If we were to, once again, have a sovereign border with Mexico, I feel it would go a LONG, LONG way in curtailing these undesirables from entering the U.S. and performing their myriad of illegal activities. That would include kidnappings for ransom. It's scary the way our country is so rapidly spiraling downhill into a lawless morass. We're not too far off from what was depicted in movies like "Bladerunner", "Escape from New York", and "Mad Max"! |
David
posted 1:24 AM on 02/15/09
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I live in Phoenix and this article is pure BS. It is a make news exaggeration to attract attention and to give someones point of view (the author Mr. Mohan) as fact. Yes, there are some drug problems, but no more then Baltimore (where I have lived and where I think is worse), and no more then LA (where I have lived). It is an injustice to AZ to let this Mr. Mohan produce this article. |
woodstock1969
posted 3:01 PM on 02/14/09
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Just a point of clarification: the author is Sam Quinones. I am the editor. The statistics don't lie, and the story clearly states that this is a phenomenon taking place outside of the notice of the ordinary citizen. All the cases involve recent, and often illegal, immigrants. We stand by the story. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:37 AM on 02/16/09
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Great series. In your research, have any of you come across credible data for how many U.S. deaths or violent incidents have occurred that are related to the drug cartel violence in Mexico spilling over the border? I've only found a reference to some '200 deaths since 2004,' but I'm not sure where that estimate comes from or what it's based on. Can you suggest any sources for this type of national estimate? Thanks. |
C. Quinones
posted 10:09 AM on 02/14/09
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The only agency that appears to be tracking spillover violence in a coherent way is the National Drug Intelligence Center at the U.S. Department of Justice. Congressional Research Service also has tracked the phenomenon, based in part on NDIC data. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:49 AM on 02/16/09
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I live in Phoenix, and there are more gang-bangers than ever. At a bus stop, nationals in two cars were circling a Wendy's shooting at each other. Where's the border fence?...and I don't mean a virtual one. Police looking at monitors eating donuts isn't my idea of border security. |
Russ
posted 4:24 AM on 02/14/09
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My comment is if we buy the drugs and ship the weapons from the US what is our govt doing to help the mexican govt when it is the american public that consumes the drugs the cartels sell, and buy our weapons to kill people in the US and MEXICO? |
prashant
posted 4:15 AM on 02/14/09
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The United States provides monetary aid, intelligence and training. There is some debate about whether that aid is having enough of an effect. U.S. authorities say it has caused notable shortages in cocaine supply in some markets of the U.S. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:45 AM on 02/16/09
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I lived in Mexico for years. The army used to come into town at Summer's end and go into the mountains and harvest the marijuana. I have seen them loading it on small planes at a very small airport. The federal police are not much better. One of them in Tepic, Nayarit used to supply cocaine.....get the picture? |
Timray
posted 5:54 PM on 02/13/09
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I lived in Phoenix for years, and recently I've been trying to buy a house in Phoenix. As I drove around looking at homes and new homes, I realized how it had morphed into a crime spree. Mesa, which used to be a pretty quiet Mormon enclave, was vacant and even more depressed, and the poverty was pretty bad, which of course breeds the drug culture. I also know the Latter Day Saints control whole neighborhoods in the greater Phoenix area. I'm wondering if they are doing anything at all? They sure packed up and moved to Queen Creek fast. Mesa looked awful. Then when I drove to Queen Creek and Johnson Ranch, this is just a crime spree waiting to happen. Talk about depressed housing, and it's brand new. I also know that wealthy people use drugs and they can easily put an end to it, by not using drugs and helping out. Drugs are just a tool to wealth. So when all that wealth on Camelback and North Scottsdale decide to end the drug dealing, the rest of it will die down too. It's like they are trying to drive the price of land down and scare people off. Man, when I'm in Phoenix, there are very few people that I really trust. It looks like Phoenix was invaded by people from the Northern U.S., and they brought all their drug deals with them. I'm not blaming the Mexicans for drugs in Phoenix. I'm blaming white people who have way too much money and buy drugs. The film industry, the real estate industry, the land developers, that's who you blame. |
shari
posted 2:12 PM on 02/13/09
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Is the US fighting the war against drugs in Mexico? If so is there any good being done for Mexican citizens? |
Dewayne
posted 6:48 AM on 02/13/09
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Great story! Is there a name for the special (kidnapping-related) detective unit? |
Andrew
posted 6:16 PM on 02/12/09
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It's just a part of the larger robbery unit -- i don't believe it has a special name. |
Sam Quinones
posted 6:21 AM on 02/17/09
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Where is the publicity grabbing Sheriff Joe when all this happens. It would seem that a stakeout of those three bars might be more useful than arresting someone's handyman or gardener. Maybe if he left the workers alone to work, they wouldn't have to seek jobs as kidnapper's assistants. |
Jerry Kern
posted 4:02 PM on 02/12/09
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To those that read this column:I have been following this column since its inception, and bravo to the LA TIMES for its coverage. I now feel the need to comment. I live in Ensenada with my Mexican national wife, and my newborn child and our daughter. I feel completely safe when at home here. For example, today, my wife's car's battery was dead. Our neighbor, whom I don't know by name lent us his charger. Our other neighbor watched our baby when my wife had to buy formula. These are neighbors helping neighbors. They are are not bad people. One thing that I believe most people don't realize is that most Mexicans have papers and cross regularly into California. Just because you might see a Mexican doesn't mean he's here illegally. Ofcourse there are many problems here in Mexico that need to be addressed immediately, however, I cannot close without being reminded of the second greatest commandment in the bible: To love thy neighbor as thyself. |
Hugh G
posted 9:49 PM on 02/11/09
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Supply and demand. All you idiots out there who whine, "I'm not hurting anyone" ... while you fire up another joint, YOU are responsible. The blood spilled is on YOUR hands. You want these atrocities to stop? You want to put the cartels out of business? QUIT BUYING DRUGS. No market, no problem. |
EC Hudson
posted 9:47 PM on 02/11/09
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In spite of all the hype, Mexico is safe. If you keep your nose clean, so to speak, you won't have problems. I have lived in Mexico for several years. I have traveled all over the country and never had a problem or felt threatened. The majority of the violence is between the drug families, their supporters and occasionally the police or army. There are far fewer murders in Mexico than in the U.S. so come on down, keep your nose clean, and have a good time. |
Ex-Pat
posted 9:17 PM on 02/10/09
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To CC: To find out about the Americans killed by the drug wars, read the obituaries and look for the cause of death that's listed as overdose. |
Pablo
posted 9:00 PM on 02/10/09
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What are the retired americans expiencing in places such as Cabo, La Paz,Cancun as far as their daily lives are concerned. |
Arnold Lopez
posted 8:17 PM on 02/10/09
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Why is all of the reporting about the drug war in Mexico , when the real problem is the demand for drugs in the U.S.. Of course there is going to be bloodshed when there is so mnay U.S. dollars at stake. Only when, and if, the U.S. finally does something about the demand for drugs in its own country will the violence in Latin America diminish. The root of the problem is not Latin America, corrupt police, or corrupt politicians (they exist in all countries) but the demand for drugs in the States. Come on, lets hear about the root of the problem and how that problem can be solved, not the results of the problem. |
Paul
posted 6:06 PM on 02/10/09
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Ahhh, what a way to live. There is no government in Mexico, just a bunch of dictators playing with people instead of their own children. Gun Laws, they don't need gun laws, they need people with guns to take back |
The Chaz
posted 7:00 AM on 02/10/09
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How can we find out the names of the Americans that have been murdered by this drug war ? |
CC
posted 4:00 PM on 02/09/09
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Coming soon to cities near the california & mexican border...US citizens with guns |
Not My Prez
posted 1:03 PM on 02/09/09
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Why are we seeing so much violence? Probably because the government is taking control. Where do the majority of the drug goes to? Also, the cops in Mexico are corrupted because any one in Mexico could become a cop. I have heard stories that the school "bullies" become cops. So now image. People that don't have at least a high school education become cops. When do you think Mexico is going to collapsed? Or when would we going to see less violence in Mexico and less corruption? P.S. |
WoW
posted 9:05 PM on 02/08/09
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Is the U.S. and Mexican capable of dismantling the drug cartels with the military and if they are why haven't they done so? Is the U.S. and Mexico worried about disrupting a multibillion dollar industry and its affects on the economy? |
Miguel
posted 10:57 PM on 02/07/09
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Who has Mayo Zambada sided with in the recent division of the Sinaloa Cartel? With the Beltran-Leyva or El Chapo? From what I read he was or is a very good friend of El Chapo but at the same time He showed the Beltran bros. the way into the drug business. |
Jose Martinez Jr
posted 1:59 PM on 02/07/09
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We are in the process of discerning whether or not we should send our youth group down to Tijuana this spring for our annual trip to build houses? We work in the San Pedregal neighborhood, we send 135 kids and have been doing this for the past 15 years. We love the neighborhood but are now concerned with our safety. Any thoughts and suggestions. Respectfully Karen Gutowsky |
Karen Gutowsky
posted 11:59 AM on 02/07/09
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It seems that journalists in Mexico are themselves afraid for their lives, receiving death threats and/or killed for their coverage of the killings. Is it somewhat safer for journalists from the US, like your team, to cover the stories? How has your team seen local coverage affected as a result of the threats they recieve? |
Ana Sofia Martinez
posted 6:35 AM on 02/07/09
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my daughter husband is currently in federal prison because he become involed with family in mexico that are involved with one of the cartel. My question how does the US arrest mexican for US drugs. his cousin is an attorney and/or high police offical..with business and family in China N.L. Per rummors, their lives have not change; per inditment they to have charges againts them but nothing has happen to them. what can do honest hard working amerian's do. My grandchildrens lives have been turned upside down forever. Where is the Justice. |
leo rojas
posted 5:14 PM on 02/04/09
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The only cure is total legaization of drugs. It will drop the price, stop the violence and create tax revenues. Isn't it clear that we can't stand life here without being loaded? That's a fact. |
Anima Solista
posted 11:35 PM on 02/03/09
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I have been following the story on line since I moved to N. Nevada from San Diego a year ago. We would go to Mexico atleast 2 times a month and want to drive down to Loreto again. I spend atleast 1 hour a day reading stories on the drug wars. It is a horrible sitsuation and I have been going to Mexico for 30+ years. Thank you for your great information. |
mark lynn
posted 11:46 PM on 01/29/09
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Clearly, combatting drug use in the United States would help Mexico, and President Felipe Calderon and others have urged U.S. officials to bolster their efforts north of the border. Any U.S. involvement beyond financial aid and intelligence sharing is unlikely. A good way to understand Mexico's hesitance on U.S. involvement is to imagine us inviting the Canadian Mounties to come police U.S. territory. There are serious issues of sovereignty, not to mention some ill feelings from history. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:14 PM on 01/30/09
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Thank you for your efforts. A few questions/comments: Is there any evidence that narco tunnels are being used to smuggle Islamic terrorists into the country? I've heard stories of undisirables paying $20K to use these passageways. Given the unscupulous nature of the cartels, would this not seem like a reasonable money-making endeavor? Are there known ties between the cartels and other terrorist organizations? |
cp
posted 9:10 PM on 01/29/09
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There has been a lingering fear that immigrants intent on doing harm to the United States can be slipping through among those crossing to find work. But thus far, no such case has emerged publicly. It's worth recalling that the 9/11 suspects originally got here with visas, on commercial flights. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 12:32 PM on 02/03/09
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Does anyone else out there believe that things would change drastically if the government repealed their overbearing gun laws and made it possible for the law abiding citizens of the country to defend themselves? Mexico is proof of how valuable our 2nd ammendment is. I don't mind giving our neighbor $1.4 billion to help them out but it would be nice to see them help themselves somewhere along the way. I believe that this action would encourage the citizens to defend themselves and would also create an opportunity for gun stores to open prosper (currently there is only one gun store in Mexico and it is run by the government). This would pull the rug out from under the illegal gun trade between the U.S. and Mexico and it would help both economies. Just a thought... |
E. W.
posted 2:46 AM on 01/29/09
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We have been taking a group of about 100 high school kids down every spring break from Oregon to a small Mexican village 40 miles southeast of Mexicali for almost 20 years doing mission work building homes for the poor in this area. Is this an area under siege or is this area relatively safe? |
Daniel Milton Hill
posted 7:08 PM on 01/28/09
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Take a look at the state department travel advisory for Mexico. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:08 PM on 01/30/09
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is it safe to go to carnival in ensanada mexico? |
Andrew
posted 3:59 PM on 01/25/09
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Check the state department travel advisory for warnings about violence in the border areas. Attacks involving tourists have been rare. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:22 PM on 01/27/09
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This new news from my family members in Villanueva Zacatecas, five more kidnapping have occurred. A Doctor’s child has been kidnap. The how town is sacred to go out anywhere. On Saturday January 24 in the town plaza a large part of the town population came out with candles asking for help. |
Jose P.
posted 10:10 AM on 01/25/09
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Vats-of-lye. suspect where was he captured |
Dave Padberg
posted 4:24 PM on 01/24/09
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After this article in the NY Times I was so mad that the violence is hitting close to my family's home state of Zacatecas. The discription of the elderly man being attacked and kidnapped sounded like it could of even been my own grandfather. My grandfather is 89 years old and lives in an adobe house in a rancho near Tlatenango Zacatecas. It could of easily been him. Most of my family over there has family here in the states and that is what they are targeting.I hope my family stays safe from the evils of this violence. |
Dona Junta
posted 10:09 AM on 01/22/09
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Why doesn't the US spy on the cartels with satellites and follow the ones that drive across the boarder and search their vehicles? Who cares about warrants at this point. |
Jorge Hank
posted 5:19 PM on 01/21/09
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I am a journalism student at Ohio University and I am wondering how threatened did the reporters and photographers feel during their investigations? Was there any notion of fear when they first arrived and started to dig around for information? |
Joe B.
posted 6:56 PM on 01/20/09
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My family is from Villanueva Zacatecas. The population is about 11,000 people. This city has been taken by the Zetas. Many in the U.S families haven’t’ been able to visit there families because of this group. They have been terrorism going on since May of 2008. This group is doing murder, kidnapping, robbery, bribery and extortion. The Zetas have employed local group of men from the town do to all their racketeering activity. When will this stop? |
Jose P.
posted 3:31 PM on 01/20/09
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My brother is involved in running drugs into the US. We are worried because we have not heard from him in a while. When should we begin a search to see if he has been caught or worse, killed. Who do we contact? |
Amy
posted 10:52 AM on 01/19/09
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Any new's from Zacatecas Mexico. All the kidnapping that going on in that area? |
Joe
posted 10:58 AM on 01/15/09
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Contrary to what most people in the US believes the war on drugs in Mexico is not a new thing. The Mexican Army has been in this fight for 3 decades with thousands of dead soldiers. It is truth however, that President Calderon has given more support and more freedom to the Army to operate against the Cartels, but this is a necessity rather than a strategy. You can have all the international cooperation and support that you want, but the fundamental problem remains: as long as the American society keeps focused on money instead of family, more and more consumers will join the market, demand will increase and the drug business will thrive. |
R.B. Ramos
posted 9:59 AM on 01/15/09
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How has the war affected Mexico? I'm writing a paper on this topic and need many subtopics can you recommend a few that are unique and I've probably missed? All I have is kidnappings, deaths, rise in money laundering, drug use, and other obsiou sub topics. Please help, also what is the best website to find information on this? I've tried El Universal but is there a better one? Thanks |
Jose Flores
posted 9:43 PM on 01/14/09
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Are there any Lord Drug Traffickers in LA and in San Francisco and who are they? |
Zuma
posted 7:08 PM on 01/14/09
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Thanks for checking out what's happening with Francisco Javier Arellano Félix. According to some sources he is cooperating with US and Mexican authorities in order to have his life sentence reduced. Let me know via email when and if you can find out where he's located. |
Doc
posted 6:05 PM on 01/11/09
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Should American |
Lori Dende
posted 6:20 PM on 01/08/09
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Check the U.S. State Department travel advisory. The violence is worst near the borders, with some notable exceptions, such as Sinaloa state, parts of Guerrero and Michoacan and some states next to border states. It has entered some cities where it had not been expected. But it is a huge country and it depends on when and where you visit. There's no blanket answer to this question. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:22 PM on 01/13/09
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I'm a student from Germany and at the moment I'm doing some research for a report in school. |
F.Bieler
posted 1:10 PM on 01/08/09
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The National Drug Intelligence Center at the Department of Justice is a good start. But they report by U.S. sector, not by Mexican geographical location. That kind of information is not readily accessible to the public. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:18 PM on 01/13/09
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I'm doing a project for my AP Comparative Politcs class, where we argue which problem in mexico is the most prolific and what programs and funding could help end the problem. We will be debating. My group has drugs, but we are having trouble finding any evidence that funding and programs already inplace to end the drug war has worked. In fact, we are finding that the funding and programs are failing. We have some ideas for programs but I was wondering if you could offer any help in whether any pre- existing programs have resulted in the decline of drugs in Mexico? |
Amber Selig
posted 6:20 AM on 01/07/09
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I'd recommend you begin with two stories on that topic. The first summarizes the findings of a Brookings Institution report. The second is from a National Drug Intelligence Center report that claims some successes in suppressing supply. The bigger unanswered question is what has been done to suppress demand, and whether it has any measurable effect. The Government Accountability Office offered a look at the Plan Colombia efforts, and that is worth a look. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:22 PM on 01/07/09
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THIS DRUG WAR THAT MEXICO IS FIGHTING IS MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. THERE IS TOO MUCH CORRUPTION IN MEXICO AND THE UNITED STATES. YES I SAID IT THE UNITED STATES TOO. ITS NEVER GONNA END. THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT IT NOW IS BECAUSE THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR NEW TERRITORY BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS IN MEXICO. |
t one
posted 10:56 PM on 01/05/09
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Our family has had a vacation home just outside of Rosarito since 1972. Many are concerned about the safety of even visiting. What is the situation like in Rosarito. Are the Gringo's being targeted in any way different from the more petty crime stuff that's always been a part of life there? |
Alan
posted 12:40 PM on 01/05/09
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America is one of the biggest buyers of automobiles in the world. Is that why all the japanese auto makers are choping each others heads off and torturing each other to death to control the market?.If they were doing this should people quit buying cars. People in Mexico are killing each other because they are greedy and murders. It is just easier to blame us. |
APO
posted 9:59 AM on 01/05/09
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Extremely well done. It's great to see in-depth, well-produced interactive pieces. |
John Packman
posted 9:02 PM on 01/04/09
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Thanks John. Besides all the hard work provided by Times reporters and editors, the online project wouldn't have been possible without a number of free and open source software tools. Thank you Mochikit, PostgreSQL, Django, PyAMF and many more! |
Ben Welsh
posted 9:39 AM on 01/05/09
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After reading your article "Mexico Under Siege" I did some research and discovered that Francisco Javier Arellano Felix, is no longer in the Federal Bureau of Prisons custody. Where is he currently being held and is he cooperating with the US and Mexican authorites which may be the reasons for the current increase of cartel violence in Mexico? |
Doc
posted 4:12 PM on 01/04/09
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Checking out why he doesn't appear in the database. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:23 PM on 01/04/09
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how dangerous is it for two american traveling by car from united states to minas de barroteran coahuila mexico |
debra cruz
posted 11:39 PM on 01/01/09
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Check out the State Department's travel advisory. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:24 PM on 01/04/09
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How true is Mr. Alejandro Gonzalez Iñarritu's statement when he mentioned that the profits from the drug trade have become a national income for Mexico, and how much of an economic impact would it have to eradicate it. Just how much money are we talking about that ends up in Mexico and or transits on to South America. |
Lenny Carl (La Puente)
posted 10:28 PM on 12/30/08
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That's a good question, and obviously hard to estimate given the nature of the earnings. I'd refer you to a recent US Department of Justice report. The DOJ estimates that somewhere between $18 billion and $39 billion is smuggled out of the US by Mexican and Colombian drug-trafficking organizations in a variety of ways, much of it in bulk cash. (see page 59 of the above study) Their estimate is that $17.2 billion in bills went from the U.S. to Mexico in a two-year period. By way of comparison, Mexico's second source of legal foreign exchange (after oil revenues) are the remittances Mexican immigrants send home (entirely legally). They've been sending back more than $20 billion a year for several years now -- $23 billion for 2008, according to one recent estimate. |
Sam Quinones
posted 12:24 PM on 12/31/08
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Is this out-of-control situation bad enough that it threatens to unseat the Mexican government? Are there extremist political factions using public dismay and anger over the lawlessness as a platform to gain support? |
Mr. B
posted 7:31 PM on 12/30/08
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Probably not. Rather, these cartels seem to be more about their money -- criminal capitalists battling for market share, distribution routes into the US and seem entirely apolitical. That said, they have initiated a disturbing trend, which is to place banners in public places -- narcobanners as they're known -- accusing the government of corruption, or of favoring a rival cartel. These appear in parks and plazas occasionally -- in August a dozen of them appeared in some eight cities, for example. People see men placing these banners, as presumably do local police officers, who later take them down. But the banners seem to indicate a desire to be heard in a political way that narcos have displayed in the past. |
Sam Quinones
posted 12:38 PM on 12/31/08
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How safe is Rocky Point right now? |
Danielle
posted 6:33 PM on 12/29/08
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Check out the State Department's travel advisory. We have no independent information on that location. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:27 PM on 01/04/09
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American demand is the problem, and it's sad to see the LAT focus on eyebrow-raisers, like the Sinaloa legislators' brush with drug-testing. Legalization of marijuana, and taxation and regulation of other drugs is the only thing that will reduce drug violence and allow the U.S. to stop spending billions of dollars on a futile 'war on drugs' that could be spent elsewhere. Mexico's per capita income remains very low, and no amount of military crack-down will change the situation - drug cartels have too much money to offer public employees to corrupt them. Liquor company lobbying, substance-abuse special interests and various anti-drug groups stand in the way of real progress, however unpalatable and socially unacceptable it might seem. No, I don't smoke pot or use any other drugs. And, yes, the current dynamic has accomplished little - and DEA and others have and will accomplish little in the future with the current dynamic in place. Wake up LAT, wake up California, wake up America. |
Mr. Rewrite
posted 5:34 PM on 12/29/08
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The one thing that most reporters miss is the "Gun Cartels" in the USA, they are responsible for the thousands of deaths in Mexico, because there are no gun shops in the country. But since that is an industry that provides jobs, no one dares to investigate them. When a Sinaloa druglord was arrested recently he was caught with a gun traced to a gun dealer in Phoenix, just a week before. |
jlopez
posted 4:53 PM on 12/29/08
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If you're reading this series, you haven't missed that story. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:30 PM on 01/04/09
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How involved are Los Angeles area Mexican American street gangs in this drug war? It seems like gang violence and murders in the LA area are down overall, but is there a close relationship between LA gangs and the Mexican drug cartels? Are these gangs marketing the cocaine, meth and marijuana in the U.S. for these Mexican cartels? |
40LA
posted 4:46 PM on 12/29/08
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Mainly, local Latino street gangs are the retailers of the wholesale quantities of dope the cartels bring north. However, they're not employees, but rather independent contractors who usually buy from cartels, then sell it in the neighborhoods. Latino street gangs, however, also tax drug dealers in their areas -- force them to pay tribute to sell in their neighborhoods. That money is circulated among the gang members, and a share (30-40 percent) is kicked over to members of the Mexican Mafia prison gang and their associates (family, wives, girlfriends, friends). Keep in mind that the "Mexican Mafia" has nothing to do with the Mexican cartels or organized crime in Mexico. The "Mexican Mafia" or "Eme" is a prison gang made up of Mexican-Americans born in the United States, most of whom are in prison, and usually in maximum security. They greatly influence life in gang barrios of Southern California-- their orders have created crime waves -- but they have virtually no influence south of the border. |
Sam Quinones
posted 12:08 PM on 12/30/08
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Our family travels from San Diego to La Paz, B.C.S. via Tijuana to visit family. Is this route safe? |
Becky
posted 10:12 PM on 12/28/08
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Your best source for that is the U.S. State Department's travel advisory. The advisory warns: "Criminals have followed and harassed U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles in border areas including Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros, Tijuana, and along Route 15 between Nogales and Hermosillo." |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:53 AM on 12/29/08
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Hey, can anyone tell me if the 6,800 "drug war" murders in Mexico includes all murder in Mexico since January 2007 or just a subset of the total number of murders? |
Charlie E
posted 8:15 PM on 12/28/08
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The figure on homicides is a sub-set of all murders in Mexico. Ours is based on data analyzed by the University of San Diego's Trans-Border Institute, which gets its raw information from Reforma Group newspapers. Reforma, like other news outlets, has its own methodology for calculating "drug-related" killings, and it includes both government reports and its own journalism. The Mexican government has offered its own estimates, on an irregular basis, and does not offer much by way of explanation or analysis. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:59 AM on 12/29/08
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First, thank you for this excellent series; it is a reminder of the importance of newspaper journalism. As I read about a country characterized by corrupt police, a silenced press, a terrorized populace and economic hardship, I can't help thinking that such a place may be ripe for takeover by some sort of military or police dictatorship if the elected government continues to be ineffectual. Is that a realistic fear? If so, are there identifiable strongman-style figures or groups—from within the cartels, the army or elsewhere—who are candidates to literally take over Mexico? |
BT
posted 2:12 PM on 12/28/08
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Mexico is unlikely to suffer the fate of some of its other Latin American neighbors and fall into a dictatorship. Mexico fought a bitter revolution against dictatorship at the beginning of the 20th Century, and has had a stable central government for decades. One of the factors that differentiates Mexico from Colombia is that there is no central political element to the cartels' activity. It's business. Cartel leaders want a compliant central government, and use money to get their way in that regard. In Colombia, political aims are intertwined with narcotrafficking - revolutionary groups and paramilitaries are funded by trafficking. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:04 AM on 12/29/08
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I frequently travel from Chicago to Mexico for business, how safe is it for me to be doing that |
Pat
posted 4:30 AM on 12/28/08
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In a war you go in with all of your forces and erradicate the enemy. I do not think that Mexico will be able to erradicate the drug lords without assistance from the US military and DEA on a mass scale. They, the drug cartel army is at our door steps along our southern borders. We must also expedite our building of the double fence to have better control of our borders. Use of the Predator drones to do survailance with the cooporation of the Mexican government in those Mexican states where the cartels are entrenched. |
Gil Payne
posted 11:37 AM on 12/25/08
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I've spent much time in Mexico and the most fearful corruption was the Federal Police or Federalies. How is that playing out now in the wars? |
DON
posted 9:57 AM on 12/25/08
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Police corruption remains a serious problem and an impediment to combatting drug smuggling. Most corruption cases have involved local and state police, although recently the Calderon administration acknowledged at least 35 top-level federal officers had been corrupted, including members of the federal organized-crime unit. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 6:01 AM on 12/26/08
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What type of drug activity is in Los Mochis Sin.? Should I be concerned with taking my family to this area. My wife's parents, sisters and brothers live in this area... |
Steven W. Durley
posted 3:09 PM on 12/24/08
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Los Mochis has never registered much on the drug-violence scale, from what I've read. That said, Sinaloa is the cradle and grave of the drug smuggling business, and it's always worth an extra bit of caution when traveling there. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 6:09 AM on 12/26/08
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Clearly, this "drug war" is a no-win situation, for both sides. -Archaic laws, mostly established first by the U.S.A., allowed the "problem" to snowball. Too late to consider legalization, decriminalization or control. -Mexico has a larger than imagined under-the-table economy that is supported by drug money and (very-well) organized crime. Take those dollars away and a domino effect follows, collapsing $upport from small businesses to large industries. -The Cartels won't settle down if somehow magically the issue is resolved. They have and will continue to branch out in many criminally lucrative ways. -B-grade, 80's Mexican movies of drug runners and "narco-corridos" glorifying their activities have claimed their impact on society and are now part of the culture. Younger recruits assigned the bloody shootouts and petty free-lancers commiting robberies, car theft, extortions, "secuestro-express", etc. -The death penalty was being discussed and considerered recently in the Mexican congress, but shot down, literally. Seems it is "very difficult" to amend the Constitution, even for the sake of providing justice to those killed while kidnapped. -Calderon may have all the best intentions for the country, but realistically, he was handed heavy luggage loaded with corruption at all levels plus an unprepared, untrained police and military force. -And, worst of all, responsible parenting, true values, education and proper civil formation somehow got lost in Mexico's youth. Those responsible for these atrocities where once someone's kids. Sad indeed. |
MEXpatriate
posted 2:01 PM on 12/24/08
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From an economic perspective, which type of money is more likely to benefit big business in Mexico, tourism or drug money? |
NoSe Porque
posted 10:58 AM on 12/24/08
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I would venture to guess that tourism money is more crucial, as it is a larger portion of the economy, is steadier, and has a bigger ripple effect, filtering down into many areas of the economy. My guess is that drug money tends to accumulate at the top and beyond some salaries/bribes, is directed at high-level consumer goods, construction and property purchases, etc. It also can have a more corrosive effect on local economies, causing inflation, and in its sudden absence, a recession, as we chronicled recently in Sinaloa. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 6:13 AM on 12/26/08
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Great work but, one thing, you have yet to call out the youth of America and put the blood on their hands because as long as they continue to be the largest purchaser of the illicit drugs, then it is their money that is killing so many. |
brad
posted 7:14 AM on 12/24/08
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We haven't done that in a separate story, but we've pointed to that background fact in many of the stories we've done. There simply is no way around the fact that demand drives this issue. And for the "youth" of America who might be offended, let's take note right here that it's not just youngsters using these drugs. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:21 AM on 12/24/08
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Great job guys: stay safe: Dios los bediga |
Joe Moreno
posted 4:45 PM on 12/23/08
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Gracias; a ti tambien! |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:11 PM on 12/23/08
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It's time for the Mexican Federal Government to implement Marshal Law in all of the border towns. The Cartels need to be systematically hunted and put down swiftly restoring the safety and security that the people of Mexico deserve. |
EM
posted 3:53 PM on 12/23/08
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You're not alone in your sentiment. Suspending civil liberties has been a slippery slope in Latin America and elsewhere. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:16 PM on 12/23/08
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How do you see the drug problem in Mexico 5 years from now? |
E. Whitfield
posted 3:47 PM on 12/23/08
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That's a hard call. I can say that five years ago, I would never have imagined Mexico being in its current bind. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:18 PM on 12/23/08
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Hey, I'm from Nogales, Arizona and have seen Mexico change significantly. There have been new tourist police added this year (32 of them) in Nogales, Sonora. Many of the shop owners really feel like they're a new breed. And, yes, to me they seem more professional than the cops of the 1990s. Is there much of a difference in Mexican police now? |
Daniel
posted 2:06 PM on 12/23/08
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There have been significant reforms in the police departments, but the local forces in the most trafficking-intensive areas never fail to disappoint. Police who have cooperated in the drug war on U.S. terms have paid a heavy price. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:19 PM on 12/23/08
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Firstly,Splendid coverage.Secondly,I believe violence this extreme must be confronted head on.Especially with the wide-spread corruption,Mexico can not continue to be a victim and its not acceptable for innocent people to live in fear of torture/murder.Mexican authories needs to get Ruthless.For Cartels the policy should be identify and shoot to kill.No Question |
Marc
posted 4:42 AM on 12/23/08
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I see a lot of blame being placed on American drug users. The blame truly belongs to ONDCP and Prohibitionists who create the black market driving this crime wave. While Americans no doubt fuel the demand side of the equation, Prohibition ensures that the supply side will be met! We've tried using soldiers, tough prison sentences, and every other means of solving this problem, save for one: legalization. Mexico tried to do this a few years ago, but Vicente Fox bowed to American coercion in the end. Look what is happening now. Some have suggested constructing a "drug free" world. It has never been and will NEVER happen, for many reasons. Some have suggested using "death squads." That is incredibly foolish, and easy to say when you aren't the one who will live under their tyranny! Legalization is the only answer, and I pray that people will wake up to that fact before more innocents die! Drug ABUSE is not a good thing, but most of the world's problems come when fools try to enforce "righteousness" and "morality" on others. It's simple, if you don't like drugs, DON'T USE THEM! |
Grover Norquist
posted 9:29 PM on 12/22/08
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Very impressive Q&A format. I travel to Tijuana on a regular basis. A main reason for the territorial fight is due to the tremendous increase of crystal meth addiction. This is occurring on a national level. A diputed territory is now worth millions daily just in crystal meth. You are correct in saying that the Mexican Government's attitude as well as the general population has changed. They realize that ignoring the drug trade is causing Mexico alot of pain |
John J. Carreno
posted 3:11 PM on 12/22/08
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is morality in mexico so much differant ? why? Will we be forced to help out |
henry hall
posted 3:01 PM on 12/22/08
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Amazing effort, LAT people. For those readers who would like some valuable background, see La Capital by Jonathan Kandell and True Tales from Another Mexico by the LAT's Sam Quinones. It's true what they say about repeating history :-) |
Sophie Annan Jensen
posted 2:57 PM on 12/22/08
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@Laura: "Drug... addictions can be licked." Maybe cocaine use can be greatly lowered, but not via the ONDCP's approach (which hasn't drastically changed in 30 years). In the U.S. we desperately need to separate marijuana users from coke sellers. The Netherlands has one model that does that and it's very effective at reducing use of all hard drugs. I encourage everyone to learn about world drug policy. Blanket prohibition of all illicits not only hasn't worked, but has propped up these cartels. I don't want to read about these deaths for another two years. |
Steve Clay
posted 11:53 AM on 12/22/08
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Planning a trip to Guadalajara,San Juan de Los Lagos and Puerto Vallarta next week. Is it safe to go now? |
Frank C.
posted 11:31 AM on 12/22/08
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Been answering this question a lot. Scroll down a bit for more details, but I recommend looking at the State Department's travel advisory.The border areas and some states farther south have suffered the worst violence. Puerto Vallarta has seen little violence. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 5:05 PM on 12/22/08
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Are there any immediate links to the influx of control and power between all the main border towns or is just limited to certain cartels in certain regions? |
Cristian
posted 10:18 AM on 12/22/08
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what are the primary drugs and how are they smuggling it across the boarder |
patrick douglas
posted 10:09 AM on 12/22/08
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Marijuana, methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin are the four major drugs. (cocaine is the only one not produced in Mexico). They are smuggled in a variety of ways: in cars, trucks, through tunnels, airplanes -- you name it. Where profit is concerned, people can be very ingenious. |
Sam Quinones
posted 4:55 PM on 01/03/09
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Find it interesting that the problems in Mexico are now helping to sell news and documentaries. Unfortunately every killing is now attributed to the "drug wars". This has the potential for allowing crimes due to other motives (such as political assassinations) to go undetected. Illegal drugs, like any other product for sale, is subject to the supply and demand dynamics. It should be interesting to see how the downturn in the global economy is impacting the various organizations involved. Evidently, if the demand goes down, the need for control of the supply chain goes up. Maybe we should just sit and watch those organizations dismantle each other rather than running the risk of helping one by eliminating the other. At the end, there should be plenty of evidence and leads left behind by the surviving organizations that would make a government-backed intervention more effective. |
NoSe Porque
posted 9:21 AM on 12/22/08
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Great new feature and I really like the video introduction and style of it. We can say that the drug trade is merely a problem of supply-and-demand economics however, that's a very simplistic view. If the government of Mexico could help its people build other things that the world would buy, like windmill technology or solar technology, then maybe these drug cartel members would be able to find other ways to earn a living? Granted, providing good jobs alone is not the only solution to all of this. Some gang members have always been motivated by a lust for greed and power and always will be. Plus who knows what the consequences are for someone who chooses to leave the cartel? Can they leave or will they be killed for trying? (I'd love to see an article on that.) Also, isn't part of the vicious competition among the cartels brought about because so many of them are competing for a market share of the drug trade? In regular business those who cannot survive the competition go out of business. In the drug cartels isn't it true that those who cannot survive the business try to kill their competitors? Isn't that how it works? It is the extreme version of capitalism: anarchy. I'm not saying that Americans consuming drugs isn't part of the problem. Of course it is. But maybe the core of the problem is that there are too many cartels vying for our business? Since they cannot simply fold up shop and go learn a new trade if they fail, they work on killing each other and anyone who interferes with them instead. How does one cure anarchy? Historically it's usually been by bringing in a law-and-order leader/government to overwhelm the anarchists, arrest them and put them in jail. (New York City and Mayor Guiliani is an example.) And we thought Obama had problems! They are nothing compared to Calderon's. |
spiffy
posted 9:03 AM on 12/22/08
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Planning a trip to Puerto Vallarta next year. Is it safe? |
Mike
posted 7:55 AM on 12/22/08
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Check the State Department's travel advisory, which I've referenced in a few of these comments. Puerto Vallarta has experienced very little violence. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:26 AM on 12/22/08
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Its an all out bloodbath.Under these circumstances,would it not be strategic to introduce death squads with the primary order to kill known cartel.Maybe something similar to Los pepes is needed,infact i have no-dout. |
Marc
posted 3:22 AM on 12/22/08
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Latin America has a sad history of death squads. It would be a tragic blow to democracy. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:28 AM on 12/22/08
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Good day;I thank you for reporting on this war,I had no idea that things were so bad.How can I send a small donation to the family of the security guard killed in Monterey Mexico.Thank you Mario Martinez and Family |
Mario Martinez
posted 1:18 AM on 12/22/08
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After reading your article "Mexico Under Siege" I did some research and discovered that Francisco Javier Arellano Felix, is no longer in the Federal Bureau of Prisons custody. Where is he currently being held and is he cooperating with the US and Mexican authorites which may be the reasons for the current increase of cartel violence in Mexico? |
Doc
posted 9:14 PM on 12/21/08
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Having lived and worked in Culiacan Sinaloa for the past 3 and 1/2 years, I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of people there are honest, hard working, law abiding citizens. However, the Sinaloa Cartel has had a strong presence in the police force and government for years, because of the amount of money they bring in. Culiacan is a city that has seen quite a bit of development and investment over the past 10 years, and a lot of that funding is coming from the cartels money laundering operations. While it is illegal, the investments are creating jobs and raising the standard of living for all the city's citizens. Most people in Culiacan are use to the violence, (although since May it's been far worse than usual) and while not embracing the drug culture they wearily accept it as a fact of life. An interesting side note is that very few people in that city actually consume illegal drugs. The only way to end the violence and the cartels is to stop the consumption here in the US. Since that isn't going to happen, legalize them. |
mcm
posted 8:31 PM on 12/21/08
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I'm curious about how much marijuana contributes to the violence. Are statistics available for what percentage of the marijuana consumed in the United States is grown in Mexico? Is it regional? In other words, is marijuana bought in Texas or California more likely to be Mexican than marijuana bought in the Northeast? How much does marijuana contribute to the profits of smugglers? I ask because marijuana is usually considered to be a "soft" or "safe" drug, but I've always been suspicious of those claims. Thanks very much! |
Arvid Nelson
posted 5:30 PM on 12/21/08
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That's a good question. I suspect very little of the violence is related to the marijuana trade, much of which has switched to domestic sources. But I have no statistics to offer in that regard. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:32 AM on 12/22/08
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What about US aid/involvement in the intervention and law enforcement efforts? |
Alex
posted 4:09 PM on 12/21/08
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Check through the questions here and you'll find a few responses to the same question. The U.S. provides millions of dollars in aid, and offers training, technical assistance and intelligence sharing. Mexico has long complained that the money is not enough, and that the United States does not do enough to curb demand for drugs among its own citizens. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 8:36 AM on 12/22/08
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This is a great service. Thanks. |
Hal
posted 2:51 PM on 12/21/08
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I listened to all your answers and truly appreciate hearing some expert feedback regarding all the violence in Mexico recently mainly due to the cartels. My fiance' lives in Aguascalientes and I live in Dallas. So I will be traveling down quite often to be with him. I get differing opinions regarding whether I am safe to drive across the border via Nuevo Laredo. In fact due to all the internet stories he is taking a bus up to NL to meet me and drive back down with me to AGU. I understand your statement that it is hard to determine where the front is at any given time. Is there any specific reporting bureau besides the government travel alerts (too generic) that can provide specific & current conditions for a particular border crossing? Thanks for your wonderful reporting. My best, Loisa Eiler |
Lois Eiler
posted 2:03 PM on 12/21/08
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Unfortunately, there is no real data base or source beside the State Department for that kind of information, which, as you say, can be out of date due to the nature of the violence. I'd suggest reading the local and regional newspapers --their headlines can give you a clue as well.... |
Sam Quinones
posted 12:02 PM on 12/30/08
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As long as there are illegal drug users, there will be drug wars. The consequence of these drugs are the innocent people who live among drug dealers. |
George
posted 12:11 PM on 12/21/08
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why don't you admit thast Calderon is not in control..the cartels are |
andrew
posted 7:44 AM on 12/21/08
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My grandmother lived in baja california. I have family there. A cab driver, a pediatrician, and a photo journalist. My uncle still lives in my grandmother's house. Her name was Mados. We used to go visit her in the summer. The poverty down there is astonishing. In the time that I've been going I've only seen it get worse and worse. These cartels are getting they're money from drugs that they are selling on our streets. We finally found a way to help tide the rise of meth in America only to have these cartels pick up the trade. They bring they're drugs into our country and use the money to buy guns to take back with them. They have the full advantage because they have the money and the weapons. What would the united states do if we had this problem with people bringing guns into our country? |
Erik Higa
posted 1:19 AM on 12/21/08
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I'm writing a paper on how President Felipe Calderon has affected drug trafficking in Mexico. I haven't found much except for the Merida initiative and how he has deployed thousands of soldiers all over the country. Can someone please help. What has he done to affect drugs trafficking? What Laws? Is there a website that goes into this subject, especially President Calderon, more in depth? Spanish websites are fine also. Thanks a lot. |
jose
posted 9:15 PM on 12/20/08
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Seems to me that its time to install detectable sensors (GM has them) into anyone at risk in Mexico until the kidnappings clear up... ones that cannot be removed and are capable of being spotted by satellite. It would be worth it to have a little extra security knowing that you could be found on a moment's notice. The downside is hoping the honest police would rescue you. Insofar as the drug problem, mandatory testing of all police should be done as well as instituting the death penalty (and enforcing it) for those who commit murder during the commission of a crime, including drug or kidnapping activities. The dealers should be dealt with swiftly. All assets forfeited. Clearly they are trying to instill fear into the people who already fear them the most. Sadly, those same people probably feel compelled to join the drug cartels rather than fight them. |
brad
posted 8:55 PM on 12/20/08
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Save a life - boycott illegal drugs. |
Murf
posted 1:27 PM on 12/20/08
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Let's treat the cause of this cancer - any Americans who use, sell or buy illegal drugs. You know who you are, creating this black death market and its killings, beheadings, hangings, acid baths, etc. Tell your friends. Mexicans could rightfully rise up and protest against Americans like they are in Iraq for killings there. Use illegal drugs, kill an innocent. Blood is on our hands right here in the streets of Los Angeles, more directly than the war in Iraq. This is killing we CAN do something about. To the people who protest the war in Iraq while using, stop the hypocrisy and stop using. Drug and oil addictions can be licked. We've driven down oil prices, now let's do it with illegal drugs. |
Laura
posted 1:01 PM on 12/20/08
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How many people in Mexico have been successfully prosecuted for all these crimes? |
pancho pantera
posted 11:22 AM on 12/20/08
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The situation in Mexico is sad I agree, however, when is the news media going to expose the truth about how the cartels became so strong? |
Karla
posted 9:25 AM on 12/20/08
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What a fantastic effort you reporters have pulled together here. This is absolutely incredible. |
DA
posted 8:05 AM on 12/20/08
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As relative success in Colombia against the Escobar/Medellin and Cali cartels has set an example for struggling nations, do you know of any support or shared intelligence on behalf of Colombia with the nation of Mexico? Is the Mexican government open to ideas from other governments? |
Sergio
posted 1:07 AM on 12/20/08
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why did the American Federal Government let the local police forces fade into oblivion??? especially in border regions near CA, AZ, NM and TX??? this didn't happen overnight! funding and training for local mexican police department would have sustained a good level over the years and on top would have brought the US sympathies from the local mexican population... also funding for schools is key to fighting this. well educated people get better jobs and are less likely to take bribes... for me this whole thing is home made, and to blame mexico for this alone is not ok! |
Frederic Romberg
posted 3:42 PM on 12/19/08
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What's your prediction for the long-term outcome? |
Brendan
posted 2:24 PM on 12/19/08
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when the mexican police fired 200 or 300 hundred of there officers, where do they think these officers are going to find work?i think a bunch of them went to the other side,just what the cartel needed ex-cop-hitman. |
eugene carino
posted 1:41 PM on 12/19/08
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Excellent work. It seems if stopping illegal drug use is the easiest response couldn't legalizing the drugs be equally as effective? I understand this is very unpopular in many circles but I wonder what effect legalized marijuana has had? More to the point. Why not alternative solutions. If Mexico cannot fix their problems it seems the best help might be outside help. If not US Forces, why not Canadian or even UN? Forces that would be immune to the fear that seems pervasive? Those soldiers have family in Mexico, those police, those leaders. If they are too afraid to put up a picture of the badguys, then it's time to get help. Why don't they? |
MrWistum
posted 12:19 PM on 12/19/08
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I would actually feel better if all of Our Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan were here on the borders and even in Mexico. This problem with the drug cartels is more of a problem to the U.S. than any terrorist organization now presently. It's time to shore up our country and fix our problems and one of them is our proximity with the Mexico issue. They obviously cannot fix it themselves, so how many more people must die so close to us? |
Jimmy
posted 12:06 PM on 12/19/08
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How safe do you feel it is to take 30 high school students from the US into Ciudad Juarez for a week long trip to help out a school there over Christmas? |
Lynn H.
posted 8:02 AM on 12/19/08
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I've been referring people to the U.S. State Dept. travel advisory, which warns that drug violence is on the rise and remains unpredictable in border areas. Ciudad Juarez has suffered the worst violence of all the border cities, as our reporter, Ken Ellingwood, chronicles today. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:05 AM on 12/19/08
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what is the U.S. doing to keep this senseless killings and violence from spreading here in the states. |
fonzie
posted 7:04 PM on 12/18/08
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The United States provides monetary aid, intelligence and training. There is some debate about whether that aid is having enough of an effect. U.S. authorities say it has caused notable shortages in cocaine supply in some markets of the U.S. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 10:35 AM on 12/19/08
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True or False - the best thing we can do for safety of people in Latin America is reduce our demand for cocaine? Coke needs less glamor and more social stigma. |
alex
posted 4:22 PM on 12/18/08
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Hard to argue with that. But there have been interesting signs that organized crime in Mexico is broadening beyond drugs. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:26 PM on 12/18/08
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To whom it may concern. I'm a citizen that now resides in El Paso Texas but all my life I have been close to Ciudad Juarez. I just recently finished reading a book titled, "Down by the River" by Charles Bowden. What recommendations would you give me since I am interested in joining this field to inform people of what is going on? I have friends in both sides, in the CBP/Homeland Security and allegedly, others in the organized crime in the side of Juarez. I keep up to date with the information and rumors going on. Some shocking news that wasn't expected for the El Paso community was when our Mayor received threats and some clubs and bars received the "protection" fee. One burned down in El Paso, but nobody knows exactly what happened and that was it about that. Anything would help. Much appreciation to the reader that takes time in reading this. (News reporters now need to present identification to Mexican authorities that can endanger their lives. As we all know, the Mexican law cannot fully be trusted, unfortunately). |
Enrique Alberto Diaz
posted 3:21 PM on 12/18/08
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I would not discourage you from ferreting out the truth in Mexico. That's our job. But bear in mind that 21 journalists have been killed in Mexico in the past eight years, and that several others are missing still. Ken Ellingwood wrote a piece in this series about the hazards. Be careful. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:39 PM on 12/18/08
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This is what happens when the top leaders of Drug Cartels are arrested. Chaos! There is no control in the streets! No leaders! Horrible move my Felipe C. |
Jose
posted 2:49 PM on 12/18/08
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the drug cartels in mexico are fighting agaist each other.is it safe to travel this day to mexico |
Richard
posted 1:27 PM on 12/18/08
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Your best source on that is the State Department's travel advisory, which cautions about border areas and some highways. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:36 PM on 12/18/08
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I find this report to be amazing, I can't believe this isn't generating more international attention. Seriously, no one can catch Teodoro Garcia Simental or any of these guys? Shame on the government for not seeking assistance from other countries and their special forces. If your own police force is too scared to catch these guys and wrangle in some control, you need to ask for help, you owe it to the law abiding citizens of that country who deserve to live in peace and and under the protection of their law enforcement. This is unbelievable. And as we all know, the world, not just the U.S., will never be free of addiction. Drugs will always be here, so why not make them legal and tax it...eliminate all this need for violence and smuggling. Take away the power. |
Jesse
posted 10:37 AM on 12/18/08
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I am curious . . . what was the exact reason that the Colombians turned over the transport of narcotics to the Mexicans? I have read that it was purely a risk/financial reason, rather than being "forced to do so", by the Mexicans. Can you clarify please? |
Jeffrey Haire
posted 10:18 AM on 12/18/08
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You may find our previous coverage helpful on this issue. The Colombians ceded the task to the Mexicans, after a lot of pressure was applied on the old Caribbean smuggling routes. At the same time, Mexican smugglers had become more adept and wealthy and had positioned themselves as the most cost-efficient alternative. Drug trafficking follows the same economic laws as any other commodity. In other words: the most efficient use of inputs eventually wins. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:16 AM on 12/18/08
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We're flying to Ciudad Obregon at the end of the year and then driving for about 1-1/2 hours to Alamos in southern Sonora. Are there any special precautions we should take along that road or in that area? |
Cheri Stockton
posted 10:02 AM on 12/18/08
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The U.S. State Department has issued a revised security alert, and a few excerpts of it may apply to you: "Firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico but particularly in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez. ... The situation in northern Mexico remains fluid; the location and timing of future armed engagements cannot be predicted. ... Criminals have followed and harassed U.S. citizens traveling in their vehicles in border areas including Nuevo Laredo, Matamoros, Tijuana, and along Route 15 between Nogales and Hermosillo. ... U.S. citizens should make every attempt to travel on main roads during daylight hours, particularly the toll (“cuota”) roads, which are generally more secure. U.S. citizens are encouraged to stay in well-known tourist destinations and tourist areas of the cities with more adequate security, and provide an itinerary to a friend or family member not traveling with them. U.S. citizens should avoid traveling alone, and should carry a GSM-enabled cell phone that functions internationally. Refrain from displaying expensive-looking jewelry, large amounts of money, or other valuable items." |
Geoff Mohan
posted 11:08 AM on 12/18/08
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Is safe to cross the border at tia jauna with my family to get to our place in Mulege? |
James J. Beraldo
posted 8:57 PM on 12/16/08
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The State Department has warned about areas where drug violence has been occurring. That said, we've heard no reports of tourists getting caught up in the violence. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:33 PM on 12/17/08
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What is the level of violence in Tecate? We have a volunteer group desiring to stay there for several days. |
tim scott
posted 6:49 PM on 12/16/08
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Tecate has been relatively quiet. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:35 PM on 12/17/08
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Your coverage is well outlined and accurate. I can tell...I live in TJ. |
ANON in TJ
posted 5:40 PM on 12/16/08
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We have a piece coming out tomorrow about one of the worst of the killers in Tijuana, and another about Juarez coming this weekend, so stay tuned. Not much I can say that adds to your view of things. We'll stay on top of it, though. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:36 PM on 12/17/08
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American should take a stand. Not against Mexico, but against illegal immigration. When an illegal is incarcerated tax payers foot the bill, which we know that they nor their families are(tax payers). Some commit crimes here in ths USA and run back to Mexico. In Long Beach, Ca. The police found an arsenal in an apartment. US better watch our, we are about to have a cival war here in our own country |
LSW
posted 4:41 PM on 12/16/08
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Could this violence spread to other countries? Why is it that the northern states of Mexico have more deaths? I have family in the state of Jalisco and were they live they are not seeing an increase of violence. But, in TJ and Sinaloa is another story. |
JJL
posted 10:49 AM on 12/16/08
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Central America has experienced a great deal of violence related to drug trafficking and organized crime, and Mexican cartels have moved into that part of the supply chain as well. As for state discrepancies: the border states are particularly violent because cartels are fighting over a limited opportunity or "plaza" to smuggle drugs into the U.S. Other states, such as Durango, Nuevo Leon and Jalisco, are transit states (Jalisco has had a history of methamphetamine production, too.) |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:11 PM on 12/16/08
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My cousin escaped an attempted kidnapping last month. Three young men in their late teens/early 20s, armed to their teeth, stormed into his grocery store. They handcuffed him and while attempting to push him out the store and into a waiting SUV, a police cruiser approached the scene (apparently an anonymous call reported the kidnapping in progress). Backup arrived and a shootout ensued, my cousin hit the ground and the gunmen took off in the SUV, which was found a few blocks down the street. My cousin is not involved in any drug trafficking. They are a hard-working family who have always had some sort of business. This has caused great distress and the family has left everything behind and fled to another State, which is truly sad. Some of these criminals are punks who want money and are kidnapping business owners just to ask for ransom. Authorities will never be able stop any of these atrocities and deaths that are affecting so many innocent and hard-working people, especially when it is the same authorities who are in cohoots with these low-lifes. |
Dan
posted 8:58 AM on 12/16/08
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Generally, is the United States making meaningful progress against the influx of illegal drugs? |
Joe Sebastian
posted 8:56 AM on 12/16/08
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The latest threat assessment from the U.S. Dept. of Justice cites some gains, including a rise in price for cocaine and some shortages in parts of the U.S. But other reports indicate failures. A Government Accountability Office assessment of Plan Colombia said the program fell far short of some of its goals. A Brookings Institute report, meanwhile, calls U.S. policy a failure, largely because it depends too much on interdiction rather and prevention and treatment of addiction. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:02 PM on 12/16/08
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I live at Juarez city, and it has become obvious that the Mexican army simply can´t manage to control anything around here, even worst they prey on family´s food and money to eat and steal them, we are at the mercy of Men whit guns; I tell my self that the darker the night is, the sooner the sunrise will be, but.. We are growing desperate of the rising level of violence. |
Tonatiuh
posted 10:55 PM on 12/15/08
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why doesnt the US do something about it send some military forces after all it is 50% their fault. |
Ramon
posted 9:35 PM on 12/15/08
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I would like for the Times to look more in depth at the problem of guns for drugs trade happening between both countries, and what is and what is not being done about it from our side of the border. |
Eduardo Santana
posted 2:33 PM on 12/15/08
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End the drug related violence overnight by making possession of marijuana legal but its sale illegal. Put the drug lords out of business and take away the incentive to fight. In a failed attempt to control the behavior of others we have painted drug use as the foundation of violent behavior and are blind to the horrific violence we have unleashed with the creation of an extremely lucrative trade that is completely outside the reach of the law. |
Pete
posted 11:43 AM on 12/15/08
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I think this is a complete report about the real situation in Mexico, congratulations to your reporters. |
Asunción
posted 10:04 AM on 12/15/08
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I lived in Culiacan for 2 years in the mid 90's and it was apparent then that there was a problem. We had to limit our work to certain areas of town. I was even personally threatened by a "narco" and shot at a few times while there... Everyone in the media is so focused on Iraq and other areas of the world while Mexico spirals into chaos... The Major problem is too many people in the USA are drug USERS... If people would wake up to the ill effects of Illegal substances there would not be a market for it. and it would put may narcos out of business. |
Darin S
posted 8:58 AM on 12/15/08
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Could the LA Times write articles relating to the REAL cause of all this? American Drug Addiction and corruption. |
Beto Hale
posted 8:57 AM on 12/15/08
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Well stated. I've seen that sentiment a lot in this space. We DO plan to write more about addiction, and we have included the U.S. demand side of the equation in a number of stories. Combating addiction is a complicated topic, probably worthy of its own series. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 1:34 PM on 12/15/08
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Why do people insist that guns from US cause the problem. I have relatives there they have seem the P90s. thwy are scared becuace unlike the US they are not allowed to defend themselves. The P90's come from the MExian specail forces. In Belgium they sell them directly to the Mexian government as an American I can not own such a weapon. |
Jack Smith
posted 12:13 PM on 12/14/08
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How bad is the drug war in Mexicali, and do you see Mexicali, BC becoming more like Tijuana or even worse? I have family in Mexicali and do go spend a lot of time there. Thanks for any information... |
Ruben M
posted 11:31 AM on 12/14/08
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What is your opinion about an American tourist traveling to Tijuana for shopping |
Jim
posted 10:29 AM on 12/14/08
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Is the United States contributing to the drug war problem? If not, then how can they help |
Dar
posted 8:40 AM on 12/14/08
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Do you think the U.S. government has avoided actively addressing this in order to keep the same war from creating as much violence here at home? |
Alexa
posted 10:07 PM on 12/13/08
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Which cartel is likely to come out on top? |
R Rigaud
posted 5:01 PM on 12/13/08
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Thank you for reporting on the tragic circumstances in this beautiful country. I have been traveling to the Rosarito/Ensenada area for years and have several friends in the area that have been extremely hurt by the lack of tourism. I quit going to Mexico about one year ago as I was pulled over during my last 2 visits and hit up for $80 and then $100. Corruption plaques the entire political environment and the risk is no longer worth the rewards. I will pray for the honest and well-intentioned efforts of those chosen few to resolve this current crisis. Personally, I believe this situation stresses the importance of a citizen's right to bear arms. To think that I would not be able to defend myself/my family in this sitaution is a scarey thought. The criminals, and the government are the only armed people in this country and when the government are the criminals... watch out! |
Daniel Batty
posted 1:28 PM on 12/13/08
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A lot of good informative comments posted here. I still think it is going to take first of all educating children at a very early stage about the ravages of drug use. Secondly, do a better job in treatment for those that become addicted. More consistent adjudication of drug cases to isolate low grade users from dealers. And thirdly, Better cooperation between law enforcement agencies to make a greater impact on the drug dealers. If we legalize drugs it will send a bad message to the our impressionable young. The problem will never go away completely but we can at least we can make it more manageable. |
giley
posted 12:36 PM on 12/13/08
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How bad is drug war in State of Nayarit? |
Juan L Ramirez
posted 11:03 AM on 12/13/08
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Check out our interactive map, which lists the drug-related deaths by state. That's only one measure, and based on the Trans-Border Institute and Reforma, but it shows Nayarit is not nearly as bad as other states. Of course, Jalisco and Sinaloa, two bordering states, are suffering. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:46 PM on 12/13/08
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where is the drug source to begin with and is the usa helping mexico with intellence or fighting the war also? |
Carlo
posted 9:25 PM on 12/12/08
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Sadly, this is a perfect storm for residents of Mexico: rich, poor, foreign. All the possible things that can go wrong are already wrong and getting worst, everything is aligned to cause the maximum possible pain for everybody, a lose-lose situation. The local Mexican media that I have access to, is reporting horrible things happening in small towns, big cities, the north, the south, everywhere! The drug war is not the only thin going on, there are many wars at the same time, and there are wars inside wars, the crime rings decided to get even with the people of Mexico and newbies are also participating, Hell break loose. I think druglords want to give a lesson to Calderon's administration, so they don't mess with them in the future and he stops the military campaigns. But, many people are tolerating crime and even participating in it. How come so many kidnappings and nobody report anything? Did you know that there are complete families participating in this? I have read many reports of how they work together. Once that they have the victim in a security house, women and kids feed and take care of them while others, usually men, do the negotiations, to put pressure to the suffering families they cut fingers, cut ears and send them to the families, they send videos while they torture them, you can find them in the Internet. As I said, the lack of education and family values are aligning with a new wave of crime. I’m 40 years old and I’ve never seen my country such decaying state. I didn't go this summer because of fear, relatives received anonymous phone calls asking for money, they live in a small city, and I was expecting things to calm down, that hasn't happened, I can't commit myself to visit them for the holidays, and I use to visit them every year. Get more detailed information of things that have not been reported in LA times, search in Google News for "Fernando Marti" and "Silvia Vargas" (use quotes to get better search results) |
Costeno
posted 9:06 PM on 12/12/08
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A disarmed populace, corrupt police and military, and a government that doesn't care. Yet people still wonder about the violence. If the government won't protect it's people it could at least let them protect themselves. As to those thinking all the guns come from the US, those fully automatic AK-47s didn't come from here. |
Stan
posted 8:21 PM on 12/12/08
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Why are you not counting the number of Iraq citizens who have been killed durning the invasion of Iraq by the US? |
connie cowley
posted 1:18 PM on 12/12/08
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We were seeking a way to help people relate to the number of dead, not necessarily to draw a direct comparison with the Iraq war. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:42 PM on 12/13/08
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I commute regularly across the border to Cuidad Juarez and it is scary. I have spoken to people who live there and the greatest fear now is not only the drug cartels but the gangs and total lack of law and order. People are being kidnapped, carjacked, and shot randomly just because the thugs know they can get away with it. |
Mary M
posted 12:45 PM on 12/12/08
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What should/can US do? |
dradov
posted 4:25 AM on 12/12/08
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"Mexico Under Siege: the drug war at our doorstep?" what are you trying to say with that? i find that header very despising, i mean, México is another free country, and that's not a respectful way to treat your neighbors, we're not the doorstep of anyone, this is the house next door, and it's actually a big beautiful house. (Yes, i'm mexican) back to the actual content of the article, yes, we're under some serious violence and i'm glad you guys decided to cover the story, but you apparently forgot to mention that all the kills and all the violence are being caused by a mediocre education in the US and the increasing broken families (since drug users are US citizens) along with serious corruption issues in mexican government, (we can't blame the US for everything), but one thing is for sure: drug supply won't be stopped until demand stops (and the drug war with it), no matter how hard we try or how many soldiers are sent to the country, and that makes me remember, where do you think drug lords get the guns from? these guys are packed with heavy weapons (i'm talking about rocket launchers and grenades, machine guns and laser sight sniper rifles), they all come from the US blackmarket. i'd like to say that many of these points of view were already said by other users, but i like to add the point of view of a mexican who actually lives in México (i have to specify that since immigration makes it confusing) |
Jesus Higareda
posted 2:15 AM on 12/12/08
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Jesus: The "at our doorstep" reference is just a way to remind people that this is something happening right next door, as opposed to a distant war. You are quite correct about who is using the drugs and who is supplying the weapons. Check out our story by Richard Serrano on the flow of guns from southwestern states. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:32 PM on 12/13/08
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Is there a connection between crystal meth use in Baja and the recent development boom? For example, are migrant workers using crystal on the job site and is there an increase in petty theft as a result? |
Jon Ugulano
posted 5:52 PM on 12/11/08
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Hello Richard, My name is Paul Bobadilla, writer-director at Chapman University in Orange County. I am currently doing research for my thesis film Tijuaneros, a story about an aspiring photographer who must ultimately decide to pawn his most prized possession in order to avenge his best friend death from the narcos who killed him. 2.) I plan to shoot one day in Tijuana for my film (revol. st. and near the border next to the airport). Can you provide any tips that will make my documentary endeavors safer for my crew. Thanks for your engaging articles, your sacrifice to tell a story, and your passion to spread global awareness about the growing problems in Mexico. Without your words (along with the entire Times photo/journalists), my voice as a filmmaker would be meaningless. Really! Thanks, |
Paul Bobadilla
posted 4:13 PM on 12/11/08
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I've read through most of the comments that have been left on this forum, and they range from highly intelligent to highly ignorant. However, I am grateful to the L.A. times that they have chosen to tackle a subject that has only been superficially covered by most. Currently, I am a student at USC, but I grew up on the border in El Paso, Texas. I go home to El Paso on breaks, and I've seen first hand the impact that the situation in Mexico has had on our border cities and I must say, I am perpetually shocked that the murders that have taken place in Ciudad Juarez do not receive more coverage in the US. I cannot remember a time when Juarez was not dangerous, and people did not live in fear. I cannot remember when women were not being murdered in Juarez. How does something like this become day to day life? Sadly, it is only in recent years, as the violence has increased dramatically, that media outlets outside of the border have been picking this up more and more. On my last visit to El Paso, I was informed on the escalating danger in Juarez. Less than a month ago, people were shot point blank while eating at a popular restaurant, just a few days prior, two people were shot while attending a funeral of another murder victim. I've had friends from the US who's family members that were working in Juarez, with no affiliation to drug cartels, have been kidnapped and tortured for ransom. Ironically enough, El Paso which is just next door to Juarez is continuously ranked among the safest cities in our country. Our livelihoods, our businesses and in some cases our families, are intertwined between the two cities and separated by the border. Although you can see Juarez as you drive down I-10, the two cities could not be more different. Like night and day. Why has this not been explored further by the US media? I can turn on the television, and see stories from around the world about violent crimes, yet we seem to ignore those that are right next door. |
C.A.
posted 1:02 PM on 12/11/08
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What can we do us Americans to help put an end to the drug cartels in Mexico? This has to stop! |
Matthew Hayes
posted 12:34 PM on 12/11/08
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The easy response is the most difficult issue: Americans need to stop buying illegal narcotics. We ran a piece recently by Tracy Wilkinson about a Brookings report that called for more action to combat drug use. You might want to check that out. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 2:41 PM on 12/13/08
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First, let me commend the LA Times for these series. I completely agree with your point that we in the US are ignoring this terrible violence, and I hope that your series may start the process to bring this issue to the forefront. Sincerely a concerned citizen. |
Nick Menendez
posted 10:16 AM on 12/11/08
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How if ever does one propose to stop this killing day in day out. |
rick esquivel
posted 8:16 PM on 12/10/08
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How have the expatriot communities been affected by the drug wars? |
cindy
posted 7:45 PM on 12/10/08
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Northern Baja California is generally mentioned as being an area of conflict in the war on drugs. Would you consider crossing the border at Tecate, Mexico to constitute any particular danger? |
sara tauben
posted 7:31 PM on 12/10/08
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You do know this war on drugs will never end, so why risk your life and others over a story. It's been proven in the past, if you want something done you must have the U.S. Government involved 100%. Otherwise it's going to blow up in your faces. |
gerardo
posted 5:31 PM on 12/10/08
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Are there any reliable statistics regarding the number of U.S. citizens who have been victims of the drug violence over the last couple of years? |
Mike Gillett
posted 5:29 PM on 12/10/08
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What is the danger in San Miguel |
Robert Tarango
posted 3:20 PM on 12/10/08
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Is The Zetas involvements helping increasing the violence in Mexico? |
Al
posted 12:08 PM on 12/10/08
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Los Zetas would be integrally involved in the violence. Los Zetas are a group of gunmen who are ex-police and ex-military and are in the hire of the Gulf Cartel. They've been employed to attack gunmen from the Sinaloa cartel, which has attempted to move in to control Gulf cartel drug distribution routes from Mexico into Texas. The Zetas are also reported to be training cartel pistoleros in more sophisticated military tactics and maneuvers. |
Sam Quinones
posted 12:44 PM on 12/31/08
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why it is to hard to stop the flow of drugs to usa. some times i feel is a conspiracy. dont you agree. |
mario garcia
posted 10:26 AM on 12/10/08
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This is not about race, it's about reality. The race card does nothing but point out how uninformed the people are who use it. Narco terrorists in Mexico are committing crimes in the United States. There are Mexican drug gangs shooting it out on the freeways of my state. Those who choose not to recognize the link between Mexican narco terrorists and the illegal immigrant smuggling trade need to do their homework. Illegal immigration and narco trafficing are related. Do you think that the drug cartels in Mexico would forgo the opportunity to make money from illegal immigration and an opportunity to transport drugs from Mexico? Again, be honest and do your homework. Mexican cartels use illegal immigrants to transport drugs as they make the walk from Mexico up to Three Points Arizona and then the drive on to either Tucson or Phoenix. When the illegal immigrants choice is to carry a backpack or die, I can't say I blame them. Neither the US nor Mexico wants to solve the drug problem. There is too much money in it on both sides of border. What would the Mexican government do without all of the funds diverted to Mexico from US drug sales? What would the US government agencies that fight the failed war on drugs do without the millions upon millions of dollars that the US spends every year on "the war"? This would severely limit the empire building we have with the Department of Homeland Security and we all know that is not going to be popular with those special interests. As far as corruption goes, the level of corruption in Mexico flows from the highest office down to the beat cop. I too have paid bribes to remain out of jail for doing nothing wrong while driving through the country. However, the corruption that exists in Mexico can also be seen here in the US. Good old "Dollar Bill" down there in Louisiana or Duke Cunningham down there in San Diego as evidence of that. Where there are politicians, you will find corruption, period. Legalization would reduce crime and I would be all for an attempt at testing that solution out. However, this is not a silver bullet. It is a step in the right direction I believe. But this so called "war on drugs" is nothing more than the definition of insanity. Until we as a country deal in the truth and reality, this "war on drugs" will continue to be fruitless. |
Sunny
posted 9:57 AM on 12/10/08
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I been retired in Mexico going on 7 years from Houston, we have travel 60 percent of Mexico in our vehicle so far nothing...acording to US reports about Mexico were execpting people dropping death in front of our car, nothing yet..I'm not saying they don't have a problem out here...but how do we know that you people are not blowing the entire picture out off poporation then what it really is? |
frank carter
posted 7:19 AM on 12/10/08
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The Mexican government is naive. They should legalize the export of drugs to the United States and tax it for revenue. Americans will never kick their drug habits anyway. Someone will always supply them. |
jorge gomez
posted 3:09 AM on 12/10/08
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I'm writing a paper on how President Felipe Calderon has affected drug trafficking in Mexico. I haven't found much except for the Merida initiative and how he has deployed thousands of soldiers all over the country. Can someone please help. What has he done to affect drugs trafficking? What Laws? Is there a website that goes into this subject, especially President Calderon, more in depth? Spanish websites are fine also. Thanks a lot. |
Jose Flores
posted 12:55 AM on 12/10/08
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Prohibition is an abhorrent failure, never works and cannot work. |
Greg
posted 11:28 PM on 12/09/08
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As long as goods(example-drugs) or services(example-prostitution)are sold on the black market, there will be a premium charge and and persons who could not compete on the "white" or "gray" market will battle each other for their customers. There will always be wars between suppliers of goods and services on the "black market." The answer? (Not acceptable to the population of today's world!!!) Eliminate the political prohibitions against goods and services sold on the black or gray markets. Obviously, this is not a politically correct solution and will not occur. |
steve derkum
posted 7:07 PM on 12/09/08
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Great Series - have been following the excellent reporting for months. Surprised there's not more media attention to the drug war - appears to be near anarchy in Mexico. |
David
posted 6:42 PM on 12/09/08
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I think Mexico needs the support of the world to bring down the drug lords. It is good to see that the LA Times is going out of their way to inform the public about how horrible things actually are in Mexico. |
dale tremaine
posted 5:52 PM on 12/09/08
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Why do ignorant people leave posts about imigration in a post about a drug war? Maybe we should let the minutemen go in to Mexico and solve the cartel problem. See how brave they are when someone else is holding a gun. |
Allways Right
posted 5:24 PM on 12/09/08
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January 5th through January 9th 2009 |
Mike Crockett
posted 2:52 PM on 12/09/08
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In general, the security situation in Sinaloa is far from ideal, particularly outside the major cities. Americans have been targets of kidnappings, and the State Department has issued warnings to travelers in areas known for drug trafficking. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 3:56 PM on 12/09/08
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I think that Mexico is not going to able to remove the murderous drug cartels by themselves. It is going to take a joint task force to go in and sweep the countryside where the cartels are entrenched. We are already seeing incursions by the drug gangs along some our border towns. Kidnappings are rampant in Mexico. Criminals are emboldened when there is lack of swift action by law enforcement. There is too much corruption in the Mexican authorities. Easy to understand when billions of dollars are are driving this criminal enterprise. For now, we must expedite the completion of our border double fence, step up inspections of containers coming into the US, RIF techonogy is available to inspect trucks. What we're lacking is resolve and will to do this, and please there is no time for political correctness, we're are at war and time is running out. |
giley
posted 2:01 PM on 12/09/08
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this is what we are going to have here if we keep allowing in illegals, many Mexicans keep talking about taking over California, Arizona, etc. and calling it 'Aztlan', well this is what they will bring over instead; you have a high drop-out rate, young girls getting pregnant, gangs running rampant, you have a 'Mexican-American' mayor who spends more time in Latin America or some other part of the U.S. instead of taking care of business here. If this is what Mexicans want keep it down south. |
rb
posted 1:55 PM on 12/09/08
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Solution: End Mexican gun control so private citizens can kill the corrupt off-duty cops trying to kidnap them for ransom. Legalize the drug trade in Mexico; just as we're not obligated to keep guns out of Mexico, they're not obligated ot keep drugs out of the U.S. End the War on Drugs in the U.S. If we're not willing to raise the penalty high enough to deter people from doing drugs (i.e., death), then legalize it and let people kill themselves with cheap cocaine, marijuana and heroin if they insist. If you want to discourage the use of those drugs, then pass a law preventing drug abusers from voting and treat people who give drugs to kids the same way we treat child pornographers. |
fsilber
posted 10:26 AM on 12/09/08
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Would the Mexicans be averse to US Military assistance? Either in the form of permitting US Paramilitary police agencies like the ATF to come into Mexico, or direct combat support from Spec. Ops and Rangers? I've finished in Iraq tour, and it seems to me these cartels function very much like the insurgency in Iraq. The US Military has become very good catching criminals, and we have alot of material that the Mexican government does not have. |
Charles M
posted 5:24 AM on 12/09/08
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Like most sovereign nations, Mexico is extremely sensitive about allowing foreign troops or law enforcement to operate within its borders, and it is unlikely it will allow much direct activity by U.S. forces there. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:04 PM on 12/09/08
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if we all Know that a lot of the guns that are used in shootings in Tijuana and all over Mexico come from the USA why doesn`t the mexican government do something so simple and start searching the cars and people crossing the borders??????? We all would feel very much safer and secure., but of course the top corrupted officials would not be getting their cut of |
Vincent
posted 6:42 PM on 12/08/08
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While there are many problems all across the board, some things really disgust me. For example, illegal immigrants crossing in Arizona don't even get prosecuted if they get caught smuggling less than 500 lbs, while a citizen in the interior U.S. can get locked up for years with for just a little baggie. What kind of message does that send? More severe punishments (or at least a prosecution once in a while) for smugglers might not be the ultimate answer, but it might make the wannabe thugs think twice... |
Chad
posted 6:31 PM on 12/08/08
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The USA is responsible for more drug importation in the world than Mexico and causes more deaths than that going in Mexico right now. Why are we in Afghanistan, the drugs of course heroin, why are we in Latin America, the drugs of course cocaine. The war on drugs is pure bull when America blatantly carries on a secret importation of all the drugs it can get! I don't buy it! Die America! |
Richard Neva
posted 1:04 PM on 12/08/08
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I have followed the coverage and find it amazing that with the US and modern technology that these Cartels are still so invisible...it's even more amazing to see the double lives that people tolerate in Mexico. Everyone covers up for everyone...until the government wins over the people that reside in the local towns, nothing will get done. |
Pedro
posted 11:53 AM on 12/08/08
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So does the fact that the USA government has decided to let kids and criminals "regulate" drugs rather than them regulating drugs have anything to do with our current un-winnable mess? Guys, the only law that will truly apply is Supply-and-Demand. Stop acting like you can legislate morality successfully. |
mark godfrey
posted 10:46 AM on 12/08/08
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NAFTA, has it helped the drug traffickers or has it had no effect? Has this policy facilitated the drug trade? Would a modification or repeal of NAFTA be an effective way to tighten the controls on drug trafficking? |
David Bruno
posted 9:34 AM on 12/08/08
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The reason there is no drug war on the USA's drug lords is because the drug lords are corrupt polticians and political families. Do not forget that in the past year alone, 3 drug shipments totalling over 20 tons of cocaine were traced back to Homeland Security and CIA planes. See madcowmorningnews.com and the reporting of Daniel Hopsicker. Not to mention the Bush families 30 year history going back to Panama, Noreiga, and the start of crack cocaine in L/A. |
mosco
posted 8:46 AM on 12/08/08
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q, my son and wife are planning a vacation the 11th of this month, is this adviseable ? concerned.Mexico |
wendell
posted 2:18 AM on 12/08/08
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Hey wendell. If you check out the videos above from Richard Marosi and Sam Quinones you can find their views on the safety of travel to Mexico. |
Ben Welsh
posted 9:16 AM on 12/08/08
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I'm grateful for this incredibly powerful and excellent series and online presentation. Shouldn't there be a national conversation going on about how US drug consumption and arms sales are fueling a war that is already spilling over the border (I live in San Diego)? Like illegal immigration, it's a problem that won't be resolved until we are willing to acknowledge our fair share of responsibility. |
Paul Straley
posted 10:27 PM on 12/07/08
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This is a very interesting and accurate picture, although the people targeted are drug dealers. Americans should stop buying drugs, they are partners in this crimes. No buyers, no drug sales. Or just legalize and let's spend our tax dollars wisely, for example: Education. |
eduardo
posted 5:11 PM on 12/07/08
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El Problema de las drogas y sus consecuencias,es un problema para el mundo en lo general y para nuestras dos naciones en lo particular.el consumo de drogas en U.S.A.es un problema que produce narcotraficantes que les proveean de la Droga, tambien el problema del consumo de la droga demanda armamento que mayormente se produce o se vende en U.S.A. ya que en Mexico no hay armamento de ese tipo.si ven los reportajes de los ejecutados por el narco en Mexico se van a dar cuenta que las armas en su mayoria fueron suministradas desde U.S.A.por lo que el gobierno y el pueblo Americano deberan saber como combatir este problema y de paso ayudar a Mexico. por otro lado en Mexico,se transporta la droga hacia U.S.A.con muy poco control de nuestras fuerzas del orden,reconozco que hay un grave problema en esto,pero la gran mayoria de la poblacion,tampoco quiere esta situascion ni para nosotros,ni tampoco para perjudicar al pueblo Americano, que como el Mexicano en su mayoria, desean un pais que disfrute del trabajo, de la salud, de la paz,de la prosperidad,qu seamos ciudadanos con decencia y que cumplamos con la ley,para vivir en paz.deseo que haya mayores avances en el mejoramiento de las vidas de ambos pueblos. |
Fernando
posted 3:02 PM on 12/07/08
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Argumentos buenos, todos. De las armas proveniente de los Ee.Uu, vea el articulo de Richard Serrano, en que Rick explica cuantas armas vienen de los Estados, y como se las encuentran en Mexico. En la mayoria, son armas de alto poder, semi-automaticas, comprado en estados como Arizona, Texas, Nuevo Mexico y California. |
Geoff Mohan
posted 4:28 PM on 12/09/08
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I've been to Mexico recently--Cabo, Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta. I didn't see anything that anybody should be particularly afraid of; the hordes of peddlers might the exception. My question: As I undestand, Mexico does not allow for any foreign based police or people to carry guns in Mexico. Would Mexico ever consider allowing people from places like the U.S to carry out operation inside its own territory? Being that when it's domestic groups of police, they're either bribed or forced to switch sides. |
Eduardo
posted 2:24 PM on 12/07/08
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Is there anyway you guys can make a special report about how the Mexican Army trains its soldiers against these drug cartels? |
Jesus Gutierrez
posted 1:17 PM on 12/07/08
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Hey, Jesus. Thanks for the question. Times reporter Ken Ellingwood filed a story on the Mexican military that you might find interesting. On June 3, he wrote about how some people see Mexico's deployment as "crucial yet risky." |
Ben Welsh
posted 9:30 AM on 12/08/08
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Has anyone done any investigative reporting on the possibility of Narco-Trade money influencing American drug policy? The status quo benefits few, but harms many. Are bribes being paid to the Justice Department personnel to maintain the current profit structure of the drug trade? |
Walter Caldwell
posted 12:26 PM on 12/07/08
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I agree this is a serious problem, and all mexican families are seeing the consequences, a lot of violence on the streets, however i can't understand "The drug war at our doorstep has claimed more lives than U.S. fatalities in Iraq." I don't see the relation between the war in Iraq and the narco problem in Mexico, its like trying to say that here in mexico are more dead people so its worse than the war? |
carlos
posted 11:43 AM on 12/07/08
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Thank you to the courageous reporters and editors of the LA Times who (finally) got around to treating the drug issue like the systemic problem it is. Why it took a year and a half to acknowledge the immense corrupting influence of drug money and power in Mexico, and the U.S., is a question we'll never answer. Chalk it up to the fact that no newspaper has any competition anymore or the sorry decline of serious newspapers in the U.S. or the arrogance of parachute journalism culture which pervades California's finest journal of record. ("We'll ignore it until the local rags have exhausted themselves filing dispatch after dispatch on the daily blood and guts and then come in and tell a riveting story that wins some big awards that we can pontificate about.") But be all that as it may, I applaud you and I hope we will see stories about what the killing and power struggle means to us neighbors and as the consumers of all these drugs. I hope we will see an honest rendering of who is to blame. I hope the LA Times will have the guts to editorialize on what the hell we should do about it. I hope they will name some names, demand some answers and not give up and then go home to their condos in Los Feliz or Silver Lake and trot out their off-the-record facts to amaze their friends between courses at dinner parties. Keep up the good work. |
Ben Simon
posted 11:22 AM on 12/07/08
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You could eliminate the demand and funding for these murderers by legalizing, industrializing, and taxing THE HELL out of drugs... i don't understand the american attitude, its like we are too proud to admit our policy is failed and creating a literal war zone on our border, sad really, every SINGLE one of these deaths could be avoided by effective legalization, taxation, and realistic MEANINGFUL treatment programs! instead we'll fight fire with fire, killing more than they can kill, eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind! |
Adam
posted 10:51 AM on 12/07/08
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Is USA helping the Mexican government? If so, how and to what extent? |
Matt
posted 10:39 AM on 12/07/08
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how many youth are involed in drug fatlaties? |
david
posted 9:33 AM on 12/07/08
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Even more the reason to put up the fence. In fact, a much better idea is what we have down here in El Paso, TX...A Border highway...it's a highway that stretches essentially from the central west end of El Paso to the far east end. Between the highway and the border is a well fortified road that only the border patrol has access. It's well lit and well patrolled along the way. The border highway doesn't distract from the aesthetics of the area but does give a sense of impenetrability that it significantly reduces illegal immigrant and drug trafficking. Those who's objective is do both are forced to try to penetrate beyond the highway. Which makes it logistically dangerous since doing so means to tackle the desert where there are no safety nets. Or they try their luck directly through border crossings. Almost everyday, we read how the border patrol makes large busts at the border. I propose that we expand this concept "border highway" and construct one between the far edges of California through the far edges of Texas. Plus think of all the employment it will create as well as a new logistical artery of delivering goods and services from the southwestern region up north. I believe this to be the best solution as far as developing a serious abatement against foreign illegal immigrant and drug trafficking to our southern border region. |
theduder
posted 8:55 AM on 12/07/08
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I found this article very informative about a subject I knew little, thank you. The questions/answer section above was very well done and pretty much covered all of my questions with the exception of one. You report that, regretfully the Bush Administration has had to redirect their focus for the past few years and in effect we have not complied with our promise to support Mexico, has there been any indication that the new Obama Administration will take action on this important issue? |
JB
posted 6:58 AM on 12/07/08
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Is it safe to drive from San Diego to Cabo San Lucas? |
Cheryl
posted 5:16 PM on 12/06/08
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James: Regarding 35,000 homicides in the U.S., coverage of Mexico's violence is important as a wake up call. Yes, Americans *should* be outraged that there were so many U.S. homicides in the same period, many possibly due to drug turf wars. Mexicans, gang members, whoever, NO ONE should be dying for these drugs. The U.S. hasn't reduced demand; we should try reducing harm. |
Steve Clay
posted 1:42 PM on 12/06/08
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I think Patrick Cannon (12/1/08) is correct because as they say, “If we don’t learn from history we are doomed to repeat it.” That is what is happening with the “drug war.” Once prohibition was rescinded gang, problems and alcohol abuse rapidly decreased. How many billion dollars a year are spent on the drug war we are losing? Wouldn’t this money be better spent on something like student loans for higher education? |
Alan
posted 12:48 PM on 12/06/08
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It's time for the Mexican police to go after the families of the traffickers. The only message these people will understand is personal loss. Fight fire with fire. |
SamD
posted 7:00 AM on 12/06/08
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Have there been recent problems from Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo? Melaque and Barra de Navidad in particular? |
Greg Sypnicki
posted 1:14 AM on 12/06/08
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you nedd to talk more about these mexican war we no ho is the best costumer to this drugs wy you never said the true about usa |
juan
posted 12:40 AM on 12/06/08
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I visited a friend in the media industry in LA recently. she told me how cheap it is and easy to obtain cocaine. The book and movie No Country for Old Men really highlighted the violent crime behind drug supply, The shocking video clip even more so. So next time some hot-shot US Hollywood type snorts some coke I hope they have the dimmest idea of the connection to those real people being brutally murdered in Mexico. The headline on that video should be WHY DRUGS ARE NOT COOL |
dean
posted 11:30 PM on 12/05/08
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What isn't reported in the media is that since the start of the Iraq War, over 9,000 Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens in the US. Family Security Matters has published a report that estimates 2,158 murders are committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from drug arrests to rape and murder. As Congress works towards legislation to INCREASE illegal immigration and give citizenship and massive entitlements to the 20 million illegal aliens already here, ask them what about the 9,000 Americans who lost their lives. Think about that, more Americans have lost their lives in their own hometown to illegal aliens than those who are fighting a brutal war in Iraq. |
Rebecca
posted 10:13 PM on 12/05/08
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Why is the US not helping financially/intelligence, but instead takes credit for "aiding Mexico" to "combat the war on drugs". Mexico is fighting what should be a multi-nation war on its own. The Merida-Treaty is a joke stalled in the senate. |
G-Funk
posted 10:05 PM on 12/05/08
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I feel sorry for Mexico. It's an absolute nightmare what's going on. That said, the country has always been known for it's corrupt federal and local police. And corrupt people make easy targets for payoffs. Unfortunately, I only see the violence getting worse. It reminds me of Columbia in the 80's and 90's. But like that country, going after the cartels was needed and the results were worth it. We hardly ever hear about Columbia anymore. Mexico has stepped in a taken it's place. |
Roy
posted 9:46 PM on 12/05/08
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With the large mexican population in the US I have no doubt that the War will spill into our streets as more illegals and their Anchor babies multiply. I'm affair its to late to save Southern CA from the Mexican Mafia and their counterpart drug-lords in Mexico |
Warren
posted 8:09 PM on 12/05/08
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great article ,i am from tijuana, i saw how this city transform itself from a peaceful town to bloodshed spill all over town , i saw friends and family experience the horror of drugs , when we growing up we were aware of who was involved in this activity as neighborhoods turn into "narcotiendas ",we use to have a lot space to play around the city ,tijuana population was 100,000 so you can imagine if you will, the hills what now is camino verde ,full of mazanitas trees we use to ride our motorcycles thru those hills ,tijuana has never been free of drug trade but back then there was not a violence like we see today ,it all stared when those arellano felix came to tijuana , ever since , i wish some day things will be back to a better time for all of tijuana people ,thank you for this report |
john
posted 8:03 PM on 12/05/08
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I am from Tijuana! I came to study Engineering at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. My permanent residence is still back there. Every time I would tell someone over here where I was from, they would immediately tell me how dangerous they had heard it was. I would respond by telling them it wasn't that bad. That as long as you weren't involved with any "narco" activity and you knew the way things were run down there, then you would be fine. I was a living example of it. I had lived down there all my life and nothing had happened to me. I would also regularly go out to different bars/clubs and had never seen anything unusual. In fact, every time I could, I would go back there. I felt safer there than in my place of residence around USC. My friends would always give me a hard time about how much I loved TJ and how once I graduated I wouldn't be back. I even planned on living in TJ after I graduated. I wanted to travel back and forth from Tijuana to San Diego to work every day. Why wouldn't I? I had gone back and forth from one country to another one ever since I entered kindergarten in San Diego. Now it is a different story. Tijuana has gotten really out of control. I don't feel safe and have completely stopped going out. A friend who had nothing to do with any criminal activity was killed two weeks ago while he was working at a bar. Three masked gunmen with AK-47s just came in and started shooting at everyone who was present. Fortunately, there weren't that many people there, but it just so happened that my friend was there. It was a slow night consequence of everything that has been going down. Even a young girl who was celebrating her birthday with her friends was shot. There are a couple of assumptions as to why it happened. Regardless of why it happened, I am now missing a friend, and there are many families out there who are mourning the lost of a close relative. I was unable to make it to the funeral. My brother did attend and told me how sad it was to be hearing his mother crying uncontrollably. She kept saying, "Se llevaron a mi nino." They took my boy. He was only 25 years old and was an only child.---- I really don't know if there's anything that can be done. I'm about to graduate soon and I don't know if I'll keep on seeing that familiar sign that reads MEXICO. |
Juan
posted 6:42 PM on 12/05/08
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The flow of drugs will stop, if the demand for consumption diminish or disappears in the U.S. This is a classic example of economics 101 supply (Drug Cartels) and demand (U.S consumers. |
Fernando Alvarez
posted 3:36 PM on 12/05/08
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It's somewhat remarkable that the L.A Times reports Mexico's 6800 "War on Drug" deaths since January 2007 with a flare of indignation. And for shock emphasis compares the number of murder's to the total deaths of U.S Soldiers in Iraq. A much better perspective would be to compare Mexico's 6800 murders to the nearly 35000 homicides that have occured in the U.S since January 2007 (source FBI crime statistics - 2007/2008 ~ 1 murder every 31 minutes in the U.S). So 6800 vs 35000. Now tell me, who has the bigger problem? |
James
posted 3:12 PM on 12/05/08
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Why do we never hear of the people who control the distribution of drugs within the US?. Who are the counterpart drug-lords in the US?. The subject is always seen from the point of view that the US (officials and institutions are incorruptible), but somehow all of these drugs are slipping by into US soil despite millions of dollars invested in surveillance across the border. Many sides have to be accountable for the problem, the people who consume the drugs, the people who let it come to the US, the people who transport it, the people who grow and process it and the governments that let this all happen. All of this info seems very fuzzy. I ask of the LA TIMES to focus on the base problems and not only the consequences of the problems in Mexican soil. Sam, Richard, someone in the LA Times needs to Watergate the real cause of the problems and expose them in plain view. I want a graphic showing where the drugs are being consumed the most in the US ... I want statements from US officials accepting that they are also losing this war as well ... Please do yourselves a favor and win a Pulitzer prize for telling your audience the real causes that have caused this siege in México. |
Enrique from Tijuana
posted 2:06 PM on 12/05/08
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Has anyone ever done a documentary or story of where exactly these drugs end up. From the point of production to the point of consumption? I think the stories of blood shed have become so common to anyone following this topic that we have almost become immune to them. A killing caused by firearms is too common to report, liquifying human bodies in acid are the new headlines?! Maybe highlighting the drug problem in America can help us understand how these stories really came to be. (Is it possible to trace the origins of the cocaine President Bush consumed in his early years?) |
Samuel
posted 12:52 PM on 12/05/08
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Why are we not able to better control the influx of drugs being smuggled into the U.S. |
Barry
posted 10:51 AM on 12/05/08
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I agree that this is a war, but it seems as though the courts here in the States are doing little if anything to help combat it. Let me explain, you mentioned and I agree, that here in the U.S. is the largest market and prime point of distribution for all these narcotics being brought up from Mexico. Yet when someone is arrested for narcotics here in the U.S., especially if it is for possession, they get a tap, not a slap on the wrist. It may be somewhat more serious if they are arrested for sales, but not much more. With attitudes such as these, and denial about what the America appetite for illicit drugs is, then I don't see how this tragedy will improve in the near future. |
Miguel Mejia
posted 9:25 AM on 12/05/08
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In response to Traci, "[Who] do you think is going to grow, make, transport and sell [drugs]? Pfizer, Walmart, McDonalds? What interest would anyone have in distributing a product that is nothing but harmful for the body?" Pfizer markets drugs for off-label use, Wal-Mart sells firearms and ammunition, and McDonald's sells, well, cholesterol. So, to answer your question: all of the above. "Why do you think it would be cheaper or safer to legalize drugs?" Pfizer, Wal-Mart, and McDonald's usually don't kidnap, torture, or murder their competitors. Illegal drug dealers do. While these businesses' health and safety records can be debated, they are generally superior to those of illegal drug labs and smugglers. "Business charges whatever price it can get for the product. Maybe it would be cheaper, maybe it would be more expensive." Legalizing any drug will make it cheaper. Drug costs mainly cover expenses incurred during illicit distribution rather than ingredient prices. "Why would organized crime get out of the business if it were legal and their product was addictive and sold to rich countries?" Organized crime would largely leave the drug trade for the same reason it mostly left casino gambling and alcohol sales when those became legal: it would be replaced by legitimate businesses like Pfizer, Wal-Mart, and McDonald's. "Who is going to go to war with the drug dealers in the US to get them out of the business?" Our police departments and federal agencies are at war with drug dealers in the US. If drugs became legal - even if only marijuana - we could redirect many of those officers and agents to fight violent crime and terrorism. |
Sam
posted 12:56 AM on 12/05/08
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ARE WE anerciande allowed to intervien wwen we run upnagensr this type or may we tske acttion on our own. a dead stop to this crap |
James Perlongo
posted 10:59 PM on 12/04/08
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The question is Why you are not being exposed the root of the violence in Mexico? And the absence of controls that has the U.S. government to curb the illegal traffic of arms that comes from U.S. into Mexico? it was a report by CNN that 90% of the IlLegals guns used by Drug dealers to killed Federals, State police and Mexican Citizens are from U.S. At the same time let's reflect that U.S. Citizens are the number one Importing and usage of ilegal drugs?. |
Michael Vargas
posted 10:12 PM on 12/04/08
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Didn't the U.S. Administration take sides in a recent Mexican election to stop someone who was open to liberalizing drug laws from winning? Wasn't it a close election? How open are Mexicans now to liberalizing drug laws, or even legalizing some recreational drug commerce, partly to reduce the violence? What are the chances that a legalizer could win there next time? (Even if it couldn't happen here.) |
Smilin' Dave
posted 9:23 PM on 12/04/08
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Again we reap the harvest of simple minded solutions to complex problems, brought to us by the cultists of our outdated religions. Lumping "Drugs" together makes about as much sense as not distinguishing between masterbation, porno & rape, but calling them all "Sex Crimes" Just how much of these 'Drugs' are Marijuana? The L.A. Times could help by making that clear. It is too late now, but not so long ago there were separate smuggelers for hard drugs and pot. Losing the distictions we now cut out pimples as well as turmors, disfiguring and killing the patient. Thanks a lot Nancy Reagan, things are never just yes or NO. |
Steve S.
posted 8:55 PM on 12/04/08
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What good would it do to legalize drugs? Why do you think is going to grow them, make them, transport them and sell them? Pfizer, Walmart, McDonalds? What interest would anyone have in distributing a product that is nothing but harmful for the body? Can you imagine the lawsuits if it were legal? The tobacco industry wouldn't even think of selling it with their products. Would the gov't have to setup an office to inspect it and establish guidelines for product safety? How well do you think that would work? Why do you think it would be cheaper or safer to legalize drugs? Business charges whatever price it can get for the product. Maybe it would be cheaper, maybe it would be more expensive. That does nothing to encourage or discourage the number of people using it, becoming addicted to it and dying from it. Legalizing drugs in the US has no effect on the method of production in other countries. We don't control the world and we wouldn't control the labor, cost or crime involved in producing it somewhere else. Ever other product we buy from foreign countries is subject to exploitation of the workers, abuse by the management and corruption by organized crime and corrupt governments. Why would organized crime get out of the business if it were legal and their product was addictive and sold to rich countries? Who is going to go to war with the drug dealers in the US to get them out of the business? |
Traci
posted 7:36 PM on 12/04/08
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How many reporters have died so far? |
Renato
posted 6:48 PM on 12/04/08
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| Staff reply:
Hi, Renato. Thanks for the comment. According to a post filed by Deborah Bonello last month at our blog La Plaza, a recent report found a total of 45 journalists have been killed in Mexico since the year 2000. Follow the link for more info. |
Ben Welsh
posted 8:15 PM on 12/04/08
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What help has the United States offered Mexico in the way of ending the drug problem and has the Mexican Government accepted our help 100% in battling the Cartels |
kirk
posted 5:21 PM on 12/04/08
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As long as there is an American thirst for drugs there will be a supplier elsewhre. Money and guns go to Mexico from the US; stop that and drug trade will stop. Simple. The US has to do its part; legalize it! Some people are awakening to the reality that as long as there is a drug prohibition there will be a maffia to cover the market. They are right in asserting the similarities with alcohol prohibition, the same factors are at play. Chicago police were corrupted by money. New York police were corrupted by money. Why in hell Mexico's police would not be corrupted by American dollars? The ammount of money -in between- is in the order of the billions, no country, not even the US, will be able to compete dollar for dollar with those maffias. It is a lost war. Legalize it everywhere, and take the money factor out of the ecuation. Without money in between, you will see violence reduced greatly. They are fighting for money, the drug trade works with money, stop fooling yourselves. But the killings will continue because politicians will not dare to legalize or regulate its use. THANKS, U.S. politicians for all the dead people (5000+ and counting) in Mexico. I know you will keep the current state of affairs and let more people die, and allow maffias to grow stronger; may be into a parallel government around the world. Would that make you happy? I read some intersting suggestions on how to regulate it. Politicians wake up, open your eyes to reality. Ohhh, never mind, I am safe in the USA and violence is out of my sight. |
Ramón
posted 3:18 PM on 12/04/08
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Is Mazatlan a safe city for travel by US citizens? |
Steve Kiser
posted 1:53 PM on 12/04/08
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It's not about drugs, it's about money. Clearly. Shut off the money, and you shut off the gangs. Your kids go to parties, smoke weed, snort coke, and the money travels south to the cartels. Control your children people. Same with your "illegal alien" problem. They come for the money that YOUR American companies are giving to them. Yet I don't see any American companies being charged, any CEO's being arrested, nothing happens. Every day companies go to designated zones to pick up truckloads of illegal immigrants. Are the police there waiting for them? Nope. If you stopped hiring them, they'd stop coming. If you could make 10x more by moving a state over, you'd move too (even if it was "against the law")... |
Socks
posted 1:19 PM on 12/04/08
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The crime and violence down there has definitely gotten worse throughout the years. I remember going down there when I was 18-19 to go clubbing in TJ and in Rosarito and hearing about the dangers all the time from friends. But now a days its just way too crazy. |
Roger M.
posted 12:20 PM on 12/04/08
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This Mexican Vietnam is a war that can never be won. Remember Prohibition? It created the most violent, uncontrollable criminal enterprise in US history. Legalize most drugs and make them available through government clinics. Drive the cartels out of business with federally subsidized pricing well below the cost of production, and the killing will stop. It's called harm reduction, it's been working in Switzerland for years and is now spreading around the world, because it's the only real solution to the exploitation of human addiction. |
Robert Bornhorst
posted 9:37 PM on 12/03/08
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What are the chief factors preventing US-Mexican interagency cooperation (as in Colombia against Escobar) against the major cartels? How can border security be stepped up without catastrophically impeding the normal flow of legitimate traffic? |
Joe Harrington
posted 5:55 PM on 12/03/08
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The amounts of money made by the Narcos are uge. Most of them have no education no job-skills. Killing and dealing drugs is their profesion. with the biggest drug market in the world next door the profits are astounding. The U.S should focus on shutting down that market. If their is no money to be made the drug trade would disappear. As long as the market exists they will be there. |
Luis Cervantez
posted 9:36 AM on 12/03/08
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if arrested drug abusers are forced to |
bill davis
posted 8:57 AM on 12/03/08
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Is it safe to travel to Cancun ? |
Dennis Rogers
posted 8:13 AM on 12/03/08
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If they are extradited do they need a green card or will they still be illegal. |
Jaun O. Clox
posted 5:27 AM on 12/03/08
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How has the violence affected the Yucatan part of Mexico? Or is increasing violence happening there too? |
Peter Ceragioli
posted 11:17 PM on 12/02/08
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We are planning on going to Puerto Penasco in March with a group of people with motor homes. We have been there for the past three years. It is safe this year. |
Marilyn Gross
posted 10:39 PM on 12/02/08
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This is awesome! Great job on the project! |
Paula
posted 8:46 PM on 12/02/08
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Thank you so much for your coverage! My family splits its time between SoCal and Ensenada. Fortunately, we haven't had any problems at all but have only heard stories. Thus I appreciate hearing some objective, factual, and historical reporting. It seems that we will have to change some of our travel patterns (i.e.stop traveling at night), so I'm wondering how long you think this escalated war could last? What is the most hopeful and effective solution? Is the Tecate border the safest bet? |
Ana
posted 8:33 PM on 12/02/08
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South America is paying the price for the U.S. drug prohibition. Drugs go North, guns and money South, repeat forever. Learn about 1920's Prohibition and this will start to seem familar. Google LEAP to learn the only solutions that don't end in violence. As far as a solution for South America, they need to say thanks, but no thanks on more escalation from our DEA; they can't win here, what makes you think they can win there? Escalating body counts is the only thing we're measurably good at. The question for the people of Mexico today: Is it worth it? Is it worth your lives to enforce stubborn U.S. policies? Legalize and regulate drug production across South America. Use the money to treat the miniscule social problems of treating non-violent addicts and let the U.S. deal with fighting the drug war. Only when the war comes to the U.S. will people realize "fighting drugs" isn't really worth dying for. |
Steve Clay
posted 8:04 PM on 12/02/08
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Why can't the Mexican government clean up long term corruption, bribes, treachery, thievery, pay higher wages to its police force, have programs helping the poor..etc. |
Mike K
posted 5:49 PM on 12/02/08
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At this point, don't you think a fence or a wall at the u.s./mexico border would benefit BOTH countries? |
Adam
posted 5:27 PM on 12/02/08
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As corruption is a major component in this situation, particularly when you can buy a policeman for a relatively small price, what plan does the Times have to describe and report upon how easily the average law enforcement person can be turned? How is this reality affecting this ongoing crisis? |
Dave Miller
posted 4:15 PM on 12/02/08
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| Staff reply:
Good point. the problem really goes to weak municipal government, which has been starved of resources, budget, civil service since Mexico's inception. Mexico has none of the rich, healthy and capable local police/sheriff's forces that ought to have been the first line of defense against forces like cartels. That's because city governments have no money or institutional ability to create them. this is an interesting statistic: for a long time, of all tax revenue collected in Mexico, 80 percent stayed with the national government, 16 percent went to the states and 4 percent went to cities. (In the last few years, those figures have changed but only slightly.) That's a formula for municipal weakness -- and of course among the institutions weakened most are local police forces. We have a story in the works on this. |
Sam Quinones
posted 12:49 PM on 12/31/08
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Why use the term drug-related to describe the violence in Mexico when it's clear that the violence is due to the aggressive policies of President Calderon? So the accurate description would drug trade-related or drug policy-related. Put the drug war in the right context. I did some research on the St. Valentine's Day Massacre and none of the newspapers called the murders alcohol-related. The press describe the killings as a feud over turf. |
William Aiken
posted 1:45 PM on 12/02/08
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How much are these situations of drug-gang-lords going to affect citizens in the United States? And has it lately? |
Ms. E.
posted 9:46 PM on 12/01/08
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Thanks for your comment. Try taking a look at the questions answered above by Sam Quinones, where he addresses how problems have spilled over the border. |
Ben Welsh
posted 3:18 PM on 12/04/08
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Is there any end in sight to the in-fighting between the cartels as well as the bloodshed between the Mexican authorities and the cartels? |
Michael
posted 8:59 PM on 12/01/08
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For years it has been widely known that crime of all sorts goes by w/o prosecution in Mexico because of graft and corruption. The drug trade has always been fostered by this environment. But the same holds true, also, here in the US. Has any investigation provided evidence of the involvement of US law enforcement, such as the DEA, border guards, local sheriffs, and also of our political leaders, in this drug trade? |
JoeT
posted 8:58 PM on 12/01/08
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This "reducing demand in America" platitude does not seem to me a very realistic solution. It's utopian thinking to believe you're going to rid the entire country of addiction. I think it's better to live in the real world and admit we're always going to have addicts and substance abusers with us. We need a policy that takes that real world fact into account. Right now we're throwing money down a hole and expecting utopia to come out. What's happening in Mexico is the opposite of utopia. But that's where the last 34 years of American drug policy have led us. |
Patricia
posted 8:20 PM on 12/01/08
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Congratulations on the excellent coverage and multimedia. One more reason to keep our subscription for the LA Times! We -as a family- read with great interest and discussed your report. Our children have many questions, of course. They are in their teens. They want to know why is there so much demand for drugs. In other words: what's wrong with our society that needs to use drugs? All our relatives are in Mexico and we travel every winter break and of course in the summer. We are from Chihuahua. We are very concerned about the safety of our relatives and about our own safety if we decide to travel there. Thank you for keeping us informed and for your courage and professionalism. Please bring to the discussion the situation of your colleagues (reporters) in Mexico. Muchas gracias, nuevamente! |
Jorge Colmenero
posted 7:23 PM on 12/01/08
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when will the killings stop? |
ralph
posted 7:05 PM on 12/01/08
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This is a very interesting subject to me because I'm Mexican American and my parents both are from Sinaloa. They are both citizens now and live happily in California but most of their relatives and close friends including their parents currently live in Sinaloa. Mexico is going through a tragedy were the government is trying to eliminate the drug cartel which i think is a very difficult task at hand. I believe a part of the problem is that the cartel truly run the government because of their hefty incomes. By having all this money leaders can manipulate their ways into many different aspects of society including the government. I've personally visited Mexico several of times and I know how things are. The infamous leaders of the cartels have a huge influence on society and the community which enables them to attract more recruits. Many songs are made of their lifestyle, drugs, killings, and other acts of "machismo" causing people to ascend the leaders hype and popularity. Members of the cartels have attitudes that literally emphasize the more blood or harsher act to prove themselves legit to the other members and also to scare the rival cartels. I honestly don't know if this is going to actually have an ending because the cartels are stacked up in members and they don't plan on losing. I even think its possible that down the road maybe cartels join forces in order to resist against the president and his actions. But, I don't think the government can even get that far honestly. This has caused many tourists and even Mexican-Americans like me to stay away from Mexico because we fear the violence. |
Tony
posted 7:01 PM on 12/01/08
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Corruption is a huge factor; it's always been the source of power for the drug cartels. Every law enforcement branch in Tijuana for example, the Municipal, Estatal and Federal have been infiltrated by the cartels. Richard like you stated, they are often used as look outs "antenas" and hit men. Back in the old day's the motto "Silver or lead" applied, today if a cop refuses a bribe from one drug faction is because the cop is working for the rival cartel and immediately becomes a target. Cartel bosses or lieutenants are not discreet, is common to see them move around Tijuana in caravans of more than five SUV'S full with arm men carrying assault rifles, bazooka’s and grenades. They move freely from place to place often using look outs to alert them of military check points, cops often look the other way. When a "hit" has been ordered the cop’s are often ordered to clear the area so that the "hit" can be carried out. One of Teodoro Garcia Simental aka "El Tres Letras" hit man Raydel Lopez Uriarte "Muletas" has escaped capture several times with the assistance of police. He once avoided a sure capture from a local restaurant "Mariscos Godoy" with the assistance of the municipal police; he often carries legitimate police badge and uniform. |
Larry Phils
posted 6:17 PM on 12/01/08
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What's happening in Mexico is that old drug cartel associates are at war. For example, Let's consider Tijuana. The Arellano Felix/Tijuana Cartel, has split up. Currently, the head of Arellano Felix Cartel is Fernando Sanchez Arellano "El Ingeniero/Albanil" One of the Arellano Felix's former Capo Teodo Garcia Simentel "El Tres Letras/Tres" is disputing "La Plaza" to Sanchez Arellano. All this started earlier this year when Sanchez Arellano summons Garcia Simentel. Garcia Simentel was causing allot of problems for Sanchez Arellano by carrying out unauthorized Kidnappings, killing to legit businessmen. This was unwanted attention for Sanchez Arellano and bad for business. Garcia Simentel sensing that he may be killed by Sanchez Arellano did not show up and instead sent lower level members of his crew. Sanchez Arellano took that as a sign of disrespect and ordered the men killed and a shoot out ensued where more than 12 men died for both sides. Garcia Simentel fled Tijuana and left to Sinaloa his place of origin. While in Sinaloa, he made a pact with Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada who has had a desire to take "La Plaza" from the Arellano Felix's since the early 90's. With support from the other cartel in the south "Sinaloa Cartel" he returned to Tijuana in September of this year, In two months there have been more than 300 murders related to two these two groups. Corruption does not help either and that is why you also see cops being targeted, some work for "El Teo" and others for "El Ingeniero" Just on Sunday more than 9 bodies were discovered, all beheaded, three of the dead man were cop's who were recently kidnapped. A sign was also left attributed to "El Tres, Teo" and "El Gordo Villareal" the right hand man of Sanchez Arellano. The same is happening in Juarez and through out Mexico. The once Powerful "Federacion" split up earlier this year. The Federation as it was referred by the DEA and Mexican authorities was formed by Ismael "Mayo" Zambada, Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, Ignacio "Nacho" Coronel, Arturo, Hector and Alfredo Beltran Leyva, Vicente Carrillo Fuentes "El Viceroy" and Juan Jose Esparragoza "El Azul". The Beltran Leyva's split from the Federation and join forces with an enemy of the Federation the leader of Los Zetas Heriberto Lazacano "El Lazca" So currently, you have El Chapo, El Mayo, Nacho Coronel and El Azul against Los Zetas, Beltran Leyva Family, and Carrillo Fuentes group. They are also fighting local distribution commonly referred to as "Narco Tienditas", these narco shops supply local demand. Unfortunately, there will always be demand and if there is demand someone will supply. Corruption is the main problem, just recently it was discovered that the head of the SIEDO and AFI were working with the Beltran Leyva organization, supplying them information on rival’s whereabouts, tipping off members of the Beltran Leyva in advance when there was going to be a raid in one of their safe houses. |
Larry Phils
posted 3:36 PM on 12/01/08
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We are exporting our inability to control demand for drugs in this country -- and the fact that we insist on treating drug use as a crime rather than a health issue -- to Mexico. The obscene profits generated by the illegality of certain drugs in the U.S. is the ONLY thing at work here, and it's killing thousands of Mexicans. I can't understand why the Mexicans aren't screaming for us to clean up our act, start treating drug use as a health issue, legalizing certain drugs (I mean marijuana, come on!!) and stop killing their people through our own hypocrisy. |
Jim Houghton
posted 3:30 PM on 12/01/08
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Unfortunately there is no remedy for this dire situation!...The Drug Culture is inculcated into the pschye of the country and the average everyday Mexican layman whom do not have a problem with drugs!...That is obvious!.. Americans do not understand this social phenomenon which is the reality in Mexico.....You need look no further than Sinaloa's reverence & fixation over figures such as Miguel Angel Felix Gallardo, Chapo Guzman, El Guero Palma, Lord of The Skies, The Arellano-Felix Family, & the ever popular Jesus Malverde and the list goes on and on. They are characters who are charismatic and influential towards the minds of the peasantry....(a distorted view indeed but very influential)..akin to the way Americans still drool over John Gotti, Al Capone, or Scar Face...... .....Were talking about well over a 100 year relationship Mexico has with drugs and a political system that was sharing the same bed with the cartels for many years that allowed them too flourish moreso!..Yet, we as a society on both sides of the border, expect this situation to disappear because the Mexican president orders a military presence?....By all accounts it has only worsened the situation despite Calderon's well intended efforts.....The real question is how to re-socialize an entire nations & its populace away from an adherence to a drug culture & into a new form of thinking, one different than the one they have known for so long?.....The military aggression has served only to factionalize the cartels and make them more dangerous because they have no true leadership..... Ironically, The charismatic figures that are able to control the violence to some degree are behind bars in American prisons!...It is time for the Mexican Government to halt this failed campaign and head in a different direction, President Calderon has over 6,000 reason to do so!! |
Robert Roth
posted 2:58 PM on 12/01/08
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What a horrible situation happening to a wonderful country. I have many good friends and family south of the border and it saddens me to hear reports of violence every day. Congratulations on a great, informative site. Thank you so much and keep up the good, brave work!! |
Rod
posted 2:17 PM on 12/01/08
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I've been going to Mexico almost once every three months for the last ten years. About 60% of the time I've had to give bribes to the police so I won't get thrown in prison. I've never committed a crime ever. It's just the corrupt nature of the authorities there. Serves them right now that they've gotten themselves into there own mess now. Just a messed up system. |
Howard
posted 2:03 PM on 12/01/08
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I am an American living in Tijuana for the last 6 months. I find generally your information here agrees with my experience, at least regarding the security of foreigners. Because I'm very obviously not Mexican, and my Spanish is limited but improving, when I first came I felt quite conspicuous and nervous. But now I know a lot about living here: where to go, where not to linger, how to speak enough Spanish to get by, and I feel reasonably safe. Most of the violence is between the triumvirate of the two main drug cartels (one of which is a recent arrival, driving up the violence level), and the police. While it's true that non-participants do get caught in the crossfire sometimes, it's a fairly small percentage of the violence still. An example of one of the things I do, and have heard others mention, is to *stay away* from the police on the street... not from a concern about being unfairly targeted for bribery, that's small potatoes: the idea is to not be around if THEY get shot at! So when I see police vehicles, be they municipal, state, or federal, I go out of my way to pass or let them pass. Most Tijuanese are helpful, friendly, ordinary people trying to do live their lives in peace. The combination of massive drug profit potential and low general income makes for an irresistible force of crime and corruption. That the U.S. more or less washes it's hands of the bloody strife in Mexico, despite our obvious role in producing the conditions that foster it, says much about our true values, regardless of what our leaders say in speeches and from pulpits. It's sad. |
Les Matheson
posted 12:56 PM on 12/01/08
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hello, do you think this will work, with all the mexican army involved? |
Jorge
posted 12:34 PM on 12/01/08
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Are the Mexican authorities thinking of asking American authorities to become more directly involved within Mexico? |
paul guerin
posted 11:46 AM on 12/01/08
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Why doesn't the LA Times look to history as the answer to this "drug war"? Do we see any St. Valentines day massacres, or Al Capones dying over alcohol distribution today? Look closer and you will see that the so called "drug war" is a war for territory in which to distribute.Prohibition is the cause of the violence. on the day when alcohol prohibition ended so did the violence associated with that destructive and ineffective legislation. We need to treat the destruction of addiction as what it clearly is,a medical and social illness, not a criminal problem. End this failed attempt to legislate morality, educate to make drug use as unpopular to the masses as smoking a cigar in a restaurant has become, and treat addiction as we treat other illnesses, with medication and therapy. Where the drug laws are lax or non-existent drug use by the young is statistically less than in this country. It's a fact our entrenched drug bureaucracy,(DEA,Prosecutors,Attorneys,Prison Industry etc.)would like you to continue to ignore. By every measurable means, the war on drugs has failed. It's time to use the "L" word. Tax and regulate the use of drugs by adults that use drugs responsibly (over 85%) and use the tax revenue to treat those poor souls who cannot control their addictions. Ask yourself this question: if heroin was legal today would you inject yourself with this poison? If your answer is no, than why do you continue to believe that most of the rest of us do not share your wisdom? That should address the fear that everyone would become addicted if this prohibition was repealed. What do we have to lose, we can always reinstate the failed policies we have in place now. Time to face the obvious. |
Patrick Cannon
posted 11:38 AM on 12/01/08
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What kind of precautions should some take when going to Mexico for vacation? Where shouldn't tourist go? |
PAN DULCE
posted 11:37 AM on 12/01/08
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have they capture the arrellno felix cartel |
rosa
posted 11:29 AM on 12/01/08
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Richard, |
Shane Henry
posted 11:23 AM on 12/01/08
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I'm an educator in Palm Springs. In November, when returning, by plane, from a conference in TN., I sat with one of our school's former campus police officers. At that time, I asked him the following question: We're having some major crime problems in Palm Springs/Coachella Valley due to the current drug war in Mexico, aren't we? He quietly nodded his head yes. |
Patricia El Sharei
posted 11:13 AM on 12/01/08
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How safe is it for gringo's to visit areas such as Cabo San Lucas, La Sayulita (just north of Puerto Vallarta, and San Miguel? |
El Guapo
posted 11:10 AM on 12/01/08
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Geoffrey, Thank You for your in depth report and Q&A section, I have learned a lot.also thank you for finally addressing that the demand for the drugs here in the States has a lot to do with what is going on down south of the border.If the USA was not the Worlds Biggest user of illegal drugs, this would not be happening at all. |
Victor M
posted 10:55 AM on 12/01/08
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If the USA is a bigger market for the ilegal drugs than Mexico,... ¿Why there is not a similar war to the drug's lords in the USA?... ¿Who are the drug's lords of the USA?, ¿Where are they?, ¿How many drug's lords have been arrested in the USA in the last 2 years?... ¿How big is the bussines of the guns and arms supply from the USA to Mexico?, ¿What are the USA goverment doing for to stop this traffic of arms?... ¿How the drug's lords do the "money laundering", where is that money?, ¿How big is the "money laundering" bussines in the USA?...etc, etc, etc. |
Fernando Valtierra.
posted 10:41 AM on 12/01/08
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